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I had a friend who disowned her son because he was gay. I told her she was being an asshole to her son and allow him to live the way he wanted to live. Yes he lived a messed up life, but not because he was gay but because he was sleeping with a 40 year old at 16. I don't get the hate many gay people get towards others. A friend of my brother's committed suicide because her family couldn't accept her lesbianism.
Why do some people insist on complicating dealing with gays ? It's really very simple : If you don't like gay people don't go out with one. If you oppose gay marriage , don't marry one. And to those who just can't get used to gay people I say : Take them out of fashion , the arts , entertainment etc. - I don't want to think about it , it's pathetic.
Even the Pope is apparently able to deal with gay people and has expressed a level of tolerance. It's about time. Maybe it dawned on him that the same God he worships made gay people the way they are. So when somebody wants to disown a child or sibling because they are gay I think they have to be asked : Would you disown him or her for being left handed ? Or having blue eyes ?




Can anyone here imagine imagine not loving their son or daughter for any reason?
For a reason so stupid as who they are sleeping with?
I will forever remember that first moment holding my first daughter in the delivery room, and the magnitude of what just happened hit me. Oh my god, what if something bad happens to her?
how on earth does that feeling go away and get replaced with.....what...nothing?





Eric, I was thrilled with the Pope's comments on this. I am a devout Catholic but the church's often times hatred towards gay people has bothered me. I understand their reasons for not allowing gay marriage (I don't agree but understand the logic), but the hatred towards gay people in general bothered me. He was right, the church needs to get over their rigidness towards gays and other social issues like abortion and concentrate more on issues like helping the poor.
I have mentioned this before but growing up I had these neighbors who were a gay couple. Nicest guys you could ever meet and my parents told me to go to them anytime I had an issue. We went to their parties and they went to ours as well. Anyway, when the one partner died the other lost everything to his partner's family. The family disowned him when he came out and when he died they came back to take everything. Because they weren't married the other partner got nothing. Very horrific situation where the living partner lost his home, his partner's business and many possessions because they weren't married.



Why do we always hear about people disowning their children because they come out as gay, but nobody disowns their serial killer/terrorist/rapist kids? What's going on here?
I think it might just be a foregone conclusion. When Ariel Castro got arrested and his family realized what he'd been up to, they all pretty much disowned him. Yeah, they wanted to know how he managed to hang himself but other than that they never wanted to talk to him again (from what I read.)
*stolen from AutumnAmbrosia*
Horror stories like that and some other things caused me to rethink my own position on gay marriage. I've come around to seeing it as a civil rights , equal protection issue : Gays and lesbians should be just as miserable as everyone else lol. Just kidding. Seriously , if they have to pay the same taxes as straight people and obey the same laws then why can't they enjoy the same rights and privileges ?





Mine too. I often see people saying marriage should one man and one woman and I know this is what I would like in my own life but know biologically not every one feels like this. In the case of the gay couple they really were no different than the straight marriages I knew except both were male. One took on the cooking and cleaning and one made more money. They were together over 20 years and paid taxes, etc and lived the marriage lifestyle without the paper, only because they weren't married they didn't have rights other couples did. They didn't have kids but I've heard of couples in that situation. I'm a bit more conservative on gay couples adopting because in general (though not always)feel if possible it's best for a straight couple to adopt over a gay couple but also know that there are many great gay couples who would be great parents.
^^^ Once it became obvious to me that being gay is hereditary/biological and not learned behavior , adoption by gay people became O.K. by me.





Oh it's ok by me, but in some cases (like infants)I just think straight couples would be a tad bigger. I'm looking more at the aspects like the kid with gay partners might have a harder time to deal with society wise. Otherwise I have no problem with a gay couple adopting and I don't think all straight couples are better than gay couples, I look at it as a wait and see approach. I'd rather have a gay couple together for years adopt than a couple who has both been divorced before for example. I definitely think being gay is something one is born with because I can't imagine most gay people would want to be gay in this society.
Maybe if that woman was raised in a home with unconditional love and acceptance she would practice it in her own home, just saying.
I don't think you should ever disown your kids, I can't imagine caring about who my son sleeps with enough for it to affect how much I love him, but it's stupid to cut your kid out of your life for the way she treats your grandson rather than trying to mediate and fix the relationship. I'm obviously all fine with gay marriage, but I don't think the situation was handled well at all.





^ i agree, that's just continuing the pattern! its not right what she did, not right what he did. nobody should disown their children for any damn reason imo
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