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    Question My semi-crisis about mixing Christianity and camming...anyone else?

    I've never been shy about my body or my sexuality. In fact, spent waaay to much time with too many boyfriends that I actually really wasn't into, yet still felt like I "needed" to include sex in our relationship.
    Anyway...also always felt there was a God figure/spirit in existence--separating that spirituality from organized religion, which I had never related too--until finding an amazing church, with a Pastor and really large congregation who has been the best support through the worst of times. The kid's church (my son is ten and he's been there since 4) adores it, and overall, for everyone, it is a non-denominational, "Golden Rule" type situation. However, the Pastor's STRONG belief is in "born again" as is my son's Godparent's--and I agreed. We both took the "plunge" years ago.
    Now, this doesn't mean that I always agree with what this church says. I also know that humans wrote the Bible, there are a million interpretations, and so on. Furthermore, since taking the camming "plunge" I've been more satisfied, relaxed, and....I guess myself. I'm also making the money I need to make in a way that I never could have while supporting a young son completely on my own, with no other help. And...unlike with the boyfriends I had before, I'm not having full-on intercourse--just sharing fantasies.
    I do feel conflicted, though. And, since this isn't something I can really share anywhere else, isolated on the issue.
    How does anyone else view this--especially if you are currently "born again" or similar?
    Genuinely asking, so please be gentle if possible!
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    I am not super religious, but I am a Cathlolic. I have had this debate with myself, too. I simply feel that I know, my husband knows, and He knows, what's in my head and heart. I'm doing nothing wrong, in my opinion, because I am simply performing. I'm not lusting after anyone. I don't feel I disrespect my body. The only thing I may be doing wrong (according to my faith) is creating occasions for others to sin. But you what? God knows I need to feed myself, so I hope He understands.
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    I practice Nirchren Buddhism but that philosophy is way more open to be people like us who work in this industry. in fact a famous porn star is the one who introduced me to this practice 5 years ago. and Savannah Samson proud Christian and Porn Star
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimKlass View Post
    I am not super religious, but I am a Cathlolic. I have had this debate with myself, too. I simply feel that I know, my husband knows, and He knows, what's in my head and heart. I'm doing nothing wrong, in my opinion, because I am simply performing. I'm not lusting after anyone. I don't feel I disrespect my body. The only thing I may be doing wrong (according to my faith) is creating occasions for others to sin. But you what? God knows I need to feed myself, so I hope He understands.
    This is me.
    I went to mass last night and actually debated the whole "camming vs my faith" thing because ironically enough the service was about changing your life in accordance to God's plan and letting the past be the past. I stayed, reflected and prayed about it and made peace with it again.... for me camming does not have any conflict with my faith, it is my job.

    However OP, you need to come to terms with this yourself or don't and change your career path.... You can decide that camming does not contidict your faith or that it contradicts your beliefs and to get out, money is not worth feeling bad about yourself spiritually.
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    I am Catholic, and I have no issues. I am doing what I have to to feed myself and my family. I am a good person, Im not doing anything illegal, and my husband is perfectly ok with it. Plus, I feel that we are in a recession, things are hard, and you gotta do what you gotta do.

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    I'm an atheist. Nice and easy for me. Be jealous. Lol


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    I think it's important to understand that you can find community or "kin" within a body of likeminded people such as a church. They give you support, help you feel like you belong, recognise you as an equal, and give you an opportunity to to be heard and recognised. But this community doesn't define who you are as a person. That is determined by your own inner set of moral and ethical guidelines. These guidelines are of course influenced by the communities you interact with, and by your life experiences, your parents etc, but they are essentially your own inner voice.

    On that basis you have to recognize that the community you are part of, and your own inner voice may not always seem to be harmonious on the surface. That doesn't make either less valid, or more dangerous, rather it makes your spiritual journey and path to self awareness more interesting and rich.

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    I'm a religious person too, although I'm not a Christian, but I believe that there's nothing wrong in doing camshows because we're not doing anything bad/not harming anyone - including ourselves.

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    Interesting thread idea. I feel a bit conflicted about it as well since I was raised Catholic. I still consider myself spiritual and I have mostly made peace with it, because (like others have said), I do what I do to support myself and my family, and I try my best to be a decent person.

    (Edit: had another burst of inspiration)
    I enjoy my job wholeheartedly, and although sometimes others (mostly religious family members) may try to make me feel bad about it, I just think of it like this: It makes me happy, fulfilled, creative, and many other wonderful things, and I certainly like to think I have happy customers that are having a need fulfilled. Whether that's having an orgasm, hanging out and chatting, or confiding a secret fetish. I just try to think of the good things that I'm doing and the good things my job brings me.
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    Atheist as well, lol. I've literally felt zero shame or disgust about camming. Live for yourself and enjoy your life.
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    I'm nonchristian (koshinto[shinto pre-buddhism]), so I've not only not felt guilt about it, but a bit of... peace? We're helping people get what they cannot, and giving them little moments of bliss. Whether it's a rare fetish, or a vanilla orgasm, we are all acting as priestesses, trading breathless joy for money (even the Sumerian priestesses were given tithes!). There are people who literally worship us, who we can take to a plane of peace and satisfaction they could never have found if people like us didn't exist. We may not be sacred whores, but that doesn't mean that what we're doing isn't sacrosanct nonetheless.

    There are people who believe that that little flash of light, that weightlessness that you feel during a good orgasm is your soul brushing the divine, and that you are catching glimpses of That Which Is Truly Holy

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    I grew up in a heavily born-again community and I've gone back and forth identifying with it. Although I've since converted to Judaism, I still keep in touch with it. On that note, as far as theology goes, I think a lot of the things that born-again friends said to me about being gay/trans apply here, so here goes.

    Remember that all humans are sinners. Sin is a part of being human. We tend to focus on certain sins because the society around us does so, i.e. being gay, stripping, etc. But the reality is that sin is sin, and God views all sinners the same. But if your belief is that Jesus can save you from one sin, why can't he save you from all of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by housewench View Post
    I'm nonchristian (koshinto[shinto pre-buddhism]), so I've not only not felt guilt about it, but a bit of... peace? We're helping people get what they cannot, and giving them little moments of bliss. Whether it's a rare fetish, or a vanilla orgasm, we are all acting as priestesses, trading breathless joy for money (even the Sumerian priestesses were given tithes!). There are people who literally worship us, who we can take to a plane of peace and satisfaction they could never have found if people like us didn't exist. We may not be sacred whores, but that doesn't mean that what we're doing isn't sacrosanct nonetheless.

    There are people who believe that that little flash of light, that weightlessness that you feel during a good orgasm is your soul brushing the divine, and that you are catching glimpses of That Which Is Truly Holy
    I totally agree with the helping part.

    I ve been raised as a Roman Catholic and I ve been an altar girl for years. BUt as I got older I realised, people tend to hide behind their faith their religion. And when I found out there are some who think that no matter what they do if they confess they will be sin free again,
    I stopped believing in anything that has to do with humans. Because human can be weak and they tend to explain words of God in their own favours if you know what I mean.
    I believe in God.No matter what.
    I believe cheating is a much bigger sin than show myself naked online. When I fell in love with camming it was mainly because I realised if I can get a man s attention and help him to satisfy his needs even those kinds that he may not be able to tell his girlfriend or wife about because he thinks that it is something to be ashamed of or whatever, I can actually help him to save his relationship. Because if he comes to me and gets happy most certainly he wont go out and find a lover.
    If a 3rd person comes into the relationship probably, no, mostly that relationship will be over.
    So yes I believe camgirls can be a great help for men. And those lovely men can help us to reach our dreams and goals in life.
    Is it a sin then?
    Oh hell no!

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    i'm muslim and in some ways i'm extremely religious, but when it comes to social issues i tend to be more...liberal than most i guess? but in terms of observance of most things i'm pretty conservative. i also work with churches in kansas which is a pretty conservative area. and i'm more or less "out" about being a sex worker. i don't shout it from the rooftops, but i've never been turned out of a church for it (and most of the pastors here who know me know about it). i am even thinking about applying to div school and getting ordained in one of the more interfaith-oriented, progressive denominations because there's more freedom re: female leadership/preaching than there is in the local mosques here - and the people in the ordination department in the national church know i'm a sex worker.

    so - my experience is that mainline protestants and progressive christians tend to be pretty cool about it. with other people, i don't hide it necessarily but i don't shout it out either.

    as far as how i feel about it morally, i have gone back and forth over the years. i think a job is a job and god will understand, and personally it's between me and god, i don't really care what other people say. but sometimes there are times where i know it's not a good situation for me or it's affecting me badly and i've taken breaks during those times. generally speaking i don't feel that it's morally wrong though...and i think god would understand. at least, it's hard for me to believe in a god that would be concerned about sending me to hell because i needed the money.

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    also, i don't know if this helps, but the more i've investigated myself the more i've found out that usually when -i- am feeling like i'm doing something wrong, 98% of it is worrying that other people would judge it as immoral, not what i actually think. when i stop and think about it...most of the time i have good instincts and a good sense of my own morality, i just don't trust myself - i get anxious about what other people might say/do/think and psych myself out. i'm not sure if that's an issue for you but for me that's made up SO much of the difficulty i've had around this and other religion/morality issues. i mean, not just the worry of what other people would think but believing that they would think i'm a bad person not only makes me anxious but also makes ME think i'm a bad person.

    then again, i'm really neurotic.

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    I was born and raised in a non-denominational, but very religious, environment. I remember asking God to forgive me every time I masturbated and felt super guilty about it. It was that bad! Christianity teaches that we are not perfect, but to always search for perfection through Christ and I think that's something that cannot and will never be possible. Why doesn't it just teach us to accept ourselves as we are?

    Since I've gotten older, and have lived life, I've come to terms and realize I DGAF. I've opened my eyes and accepted others for who they are as Christianity isn't very tolerant of anyone who doesn't agree with it. Like KimKlass said, I doubt God is going to punish me for trying to stay alive. Because camming is temporary me(and even if it wasn't), I don't feel guilty at all about doing what I have to do to get where I want to be. I'm only supplying a normal human need. Release, sexuality. My friends and family may not agree with my lifestyle but they have a choice to either accept me for who I am, or don't. Though I prefer to keep things separate from everyone, I'm still not ashamed and if God is seeing me, he hasn't yet disagreed with what I'm doing so far, at least he hasn't showed it lol.
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    I accept and respect all kind of religions. My problem with Cristianity was and is that it teaches that God is an angry God. And the religion sometimes feeds on fear. I really do not agree with that. Believing in God or whatever you called him or her should be helping people not make them suffer from fear.
    If God created us in his or her form he or she put in all of us a lil piece of him or her. And I believe that is our soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinydancer23 View Post
    also, i don't know if this helps, but the more i've investigated myself the more i've found out that usually when -i- am feeling like i'm doing something wrong, 98% of it is worrying that other people would judge it as immoral, not what i actually think. when i stop and think about it...most of the time i have good instincts and a good sense of my own morality, i just don't trust myself - i get anxious about what other people might say/do/think and psych myself out. i'm not sure if that's an issue for you but for me that's made up SO much of the difficulty i've had around this and other religion/morality issues. i mean, not just the worry of what other people would think but believing that they would think i'm a bad person not only makes me anxious but also makes ME think i'm a bad person.

    then again, i'm really neurotic.
    So totally NOT neurotic! I think so many of us have that anxiety--it's very societal. I also want to profusely thank all respondents--it's obvious that you all really put a lot of thought into what you wrote, instead of just a pat on the back or whatever. Who knows, God (or any higher power) might be laughing, thinking, "Don't they know the worst sin is to pick your nose when no one's looking?"...suppose there's only one way we'll ever find out.
    I think the biggest relief and thanks is that I no longer feel the isolation in this thought--what a great source of support! No wonder I'm coming here more often than Facebook anymore:0!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinydancer23 View Post
    also, i don't know if this helps, but the more i've investigated myself the more i've found out that usually when -i- am feeling like i'm doing something wrong, 98% of it is worrying that other people would judge it as immoral, not what i actually think. when i stop and think about it...most of the time i have good instincts and a good sense of my own morality, i just don't trust myself - i get anxious about what other people might say/do/think and psych myself out. i'm not sure if that's an issue for you but for me that's made up SO much of the difficulty i've had around this and other religion/morality issues. i mean, not just the worry of what other people would think but believing that they would think i'm a bad person not only makes me anxious but also makes ME think i'm a bad person.

    then again, i'm really neurotic.
    So totally NOT neurotic! I think so many of us have that anxiety--it's very societal. I also want to profusely thank all respondents--it's obvious that you all really put a lot of thought into what you wrote, instead of just a pat on the back or whatever. Who knows, God (or any higher power) might be laughing, thinking, "Don't they know the worst sin is to pick your nose when no one's looking?"...suppose there's only one way we'll ever find out.
    I think the biggest relief and thanks is that I no longer feel the isolation in this thought--what a great source of support! No wonder I'm coming here more often than Facebook anymore:0!

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    I've never felt bad about camming at all, but when I joined the Mormon Church they tried to make me feel like a bad person because of my job. I won't get into my own beliefs here other than to say I have never had a moral or ethical problem with camming whatsoever. When I started investigating the church I was essentially told that I had to stop camming if I wanted to be baptized, so I did. They put a ton of pressure on me and I caved, even though I personally wanted to keep camming. Camming has been my only job for years and while I was told the Church would help me financially while I looked for something else, I refused to take handouts because I think assistance should be reserved for people who actually need it, and I was fully capable of supporting myself and making a living, just not the way they thought would be appropriate.

    Once I quit camming I was miserable. Not only did my finances suffer tremendously but I felt completely lost. I felt like I was not in control of my own destiny. I had anxiety all the time about what to do for money, I felt unproductive for not working- I was generally just incredibly unhappy. Within two months I decided to go back to camming and it was one of the best decisions I made.

    I claimed to my church that I was only doing non-nude fetish videos and they still tried to guilt trip me about that, too (because, you know, selling videos of me painting my toenails and brushing my teeth is so fucking horrendous). I eventually just came to a point where I realized that my life is my own and I was not going to give up something positive because a bunch of strangers love bombed me into doing so.

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    ... until 'manna' falls from heaven, 'the lord helps those who help themselves' !

    On the other hand, is signing up for social welfare benefits now the modern day equivalent of 'manna from heaven' ?

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    Being a former Christian who attended a Christian School, I've debated against typing my own response here because it's probably pretty controversial, but I think I will go ahead anyway as others have aired their thoughts here who aren't necessarily Christian. Remember folks: Just my opinion.


    Following Christianity and engaging in ANY form of sex which isn't that of a married man and woman, doesn't mix. At all.

    Sex WORK + Christianity? No way! You'd have to be a seriously selective cherry-picker of the Christian faith to attempt to convince yourself that those two can coexist.

    I spent a great deal of my late childhood fearing hellfire and eternal torment for just thinking things, and being a natural sexual being. Hours after hours of repentant prayer. Years of not knowing why this "God" dude wasn't speaking to me, feeling unwanted and rejected... all throughout the time when I was developing sexually, going through puberty, facing new thoughts and feelings.

    Years later, I found out about atheism and read the bible again, and sure enough, it's just one long, imaginative horror story to me now ~ penned by people who lived long before me, it may as well be a bunch of imaginative fairytales, it has such little relevance to me and how I live my life.

    I actually hate this religion for how deeply it intruded into my life, my mind, my conscience - the scars still very much exist. As far as I am concerned, Christianity can actually go fuck itself.


    Remember people's, just my opinion - I don't want to cause any flame wars with this.



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    Being a former Christian who attended a Christian School, I've debated against typing my own response here because it's probably pretty controversial, but I think I will go ahead anyway as others have aired their thoughts here who aren't necessarily Christian. Remember folks: Just my opinion.


    Following Christianity and engaging in ANY form of sex which isn't that of a married man and woman, doesn't mix. At all.

    Sex WORK + Christianity? No way! You'd have to be a seriously selective cherry-picker of the Christian faith to attempt to convince yourself that those two can coexist.

    I spent a great deal of my late childhood fearing hellfire and eternal torment for just thinking things, and being a natural sexual being. Hours after hours of repentant prayer. Years of not knowing why this "God" dude wasn't speaking to me, feeling unwanted and rejected... all throughout the time when I was developing sexually, going through puberty, facing new thoughts and feelings.

    Years later, I found out about atheism and read the bible again, and sure enough, it's just one long, imaginative horror story to me now ~ penned by people who lived long before me, it may as well be a bunch of imaginative fairytales, it has such little relevance to me and how I live my life.

    I actually hate this religion for how deeply it intruded into my life, my mind, my conscience - the scars still very much exist. As far as I am concerned, Christianity can actually go fuck itself.


    Remember people's, just my opinion - I don't want to cause any flame wars with this.
    Thank yous so very much for sharing your opinion. It is always relieving to read such an honest opinion on a fragile topic like Christianity. I 100% agrre with you on the Bible part! Thats why I wrote that I dont believe in anything that has to do with human.
    And again thank you so much!

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    Default Re: My semi-crisis about mixing Christianity and camming...anyone else?

    I agree with Incantatious on this.

    I belong to the Reformed Church, that's more liberal. (But I think here even the most "bigot" catholics aren't as "bad" as those overseas insanities I sometimes read about. Whatever.) So even if we are taught about sex and sexuality being natural, a precious gift from God etc. it has its place. In the marriage, between husband and wife.

    It's not only for producing children, it's so much more, but it has its place there. There are books about it, I read a lot, I was also educated about it when I got married, and yes, in the back of my mind I kind of tried to find an excuse or something. Not because I was afraid. I just wanted to.

    There is none. I'm not saying "No excuse you will burn in hell biatch, ha-HA"' because I wasn't taught that. They never generate or feed fears, they don't want us to behave ourselves so that we won't burn, they want it to come from our very own will, our heart, soul, want us to understand why is it made like that, why is it the best like that and so on. Because I "can do everything but not everything is beneficial." I know if I went to my favorite chaplain and told him what I'm doing, he would be kind and good to me and tried to explain what I mentioned above. Which I know. And understand. But I'm still doing this.

    So I rather question if I'm christian at all or not.

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