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    I've just decided to become a webcam performer after losing my texting job. I have done it in the past on adultwork with my hubby and we really did make quite a bit of cash but now I've decided to go solo and I'm not getting anywhere. Guys come into free chat and ask me to show my ass which I usually do. I also find I run out of things to say to a guy in chat! I just wondered if anyone can give me some tips. Thanks

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    My ass is one of my good features, so I don't turn around to show it without some gold (SM). If it is one of your best bits, don't give it out for free


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    See I've always thought that by me refusing to show my ass etc that I won't get shows because ill come across as boring. How exactly do I refuse without sounding like in a greedy cow who is only out for money!

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    on SM I put in topic 10 Gold for basic requests in free chat. So they know. If someone asks I kindly remind them. "Oh baby for ten gold you get all the ass you want!" If the beg I ignore. The ones who have the money will pay.

    When a guy argues saying he will take me to private if I show xyz, I mention that I'm not sample day at the supermarket. 10 gold baby or we can just go straight to private. I leave it at that. I gave the guy his option. If he doesn't like it, too bad. I just ignore him.


    If these guys don't realize that we are doing this for money. Then they are living in a whole different world and that is not our problem.

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    Alright, this saying is totally sexist and stupid in most contexts, but in the context of sex work it's true. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

    If they want to see your ass and they can see your ass for free... then why part with their money?

    EDIT: How exactly do you refuse? Well, I usually say something along the lines of "Sure sweetie, just throw five gold my way!" You really can't be scared to tell these guys "no" or they'll burn you out before you make a dime.


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    Those who come in free chat to ask for stuff for free, won't take you private, they will most likely leave after they see what they wanted. Ask them to tip at least. There are very good customers on AW, not all are freebie seekers, but plenty of them are.

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    Thank you girls I realise I have been giving away far too much so now I'm going to be more firm and say no like you say if they really want to take me private they will so I'm not wasting my time on freeloaders!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkybitch View Post
    See I've always thought that by me refusing to show my ass etc that I won't get shows because ill come across as boring. How exactly do I refuse without sounding like in a greedy cow who is only out for money!
    My site allows nudity in free chat as well as privates, so I always have in my room topic the amount they need to tip for each body part. If a guy asks me to show tits or ass I usually reply with something along the lines of, "Sure! I can't wait to show you, just tip what's in the room topic or you can take me private, whichever you prefer." I like to say it like that because guys feel like they have a choice. It's not yes I'll show you or no I won't, it's I'll show you if you pay me through this method or I'll show you if you pay me through that method

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    ask for the amount of money you want and say thank you.. with a smile.. and ignore them .. expect it!... you don't have to say no.. Just say 5 gold for ass doll. thanks .. smile! and oh hi bob how are you..( new free chatter walks in)

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    You don't even have to say anything. I usually use auto text. Something like "Please tip (whatever amount) for requests in guest chat."
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    You ARE there for the money, and they know it. They just try every trick in the book to get extras out of new girls who are too eager to please and haven't yet learned to say fuck you, pay me!
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    How you behave in freechat isnt just for the freeloader - it is also for everyone registered and not registered who is viewing you. Oh x model shows her ass w/ no tip? Ill bookmark and never ever ever sign up or login or bother to tip or join in her in a show. You need to cultivate some feeling of need / anxiety to secure a sale or they wont bother... the milk and cow analogy used upthread is spot on unfortunately.

    Youre online to make money and capitalize your time doing so. Intentionally doing things that rids you of some money is detrimental. Certain sites have a culture to them and a freeloader population to them that flock to whoever is most naked, most afraid of customers, most new to the industry, and that catchment group is easy to spot if youre seasoned but are so omnipresent/parasitic that you have to develop ways to rebuff them.... if not theyll work a model over until she's run over / burned out / not earning enough to bother with the industry anymore --- and said beggars either spend the next few hours tabbing away everywhere or finally giving in and paying the more hardlined models who refuse to kowtow. Really the models hwo earn well - are not pushovers or hyper-accomodating, many give a great appearance of being that way but really arent. Just keep that at the forefront of your mind when you start to get up to show for free - most top models dont... or if theyre topless / butt in cam already theyll just ignore them and/or silently ban and wont reward with any real direct attention.





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    Quote Originally Posted by CourtneyRaine View Post
    My site allows nudity in free chat as well as privates, so I always have in my room topic the amount they need to tip for each body part. If a guy asks me to show tits or ass I usually reply with something along the lines of, "Sure! I can't wait to show you, just tip what's in the room topic or you can take me private, whichever you prefer." I like to say it like that because guys feel like they have a choice. It's not yes I'll show you or no I won't, it's I'll show you if you pay me through this method or I'll show you if you pay me through that method

    ^ THIS. I learned this in a parenting class in my town. When a child asks you for xyz, you can give them a choice, because it makes them feel like THEY'RE still in a position of power instead of you. So if you always give a choice, it will impose the impression that they are the ones in control and you're not in control, you're simply negotiating with them. It takes it down a notch from the "No, you freeloading asshole, I will not show you my goods for free, loser!" to "Well you can choose x, y, or z baby, which is it?" << That instills a value because you're not giving it away for free. Now if this customer is testing you (which some of them will. Not everyone that asks to see something for free is a freeloader, though 90% of them are, but I've tempted a few
    "freeloaders" and they've said, oh of course, bb, you're so hot! *tip*) that will instill the value to them, because they couldn't get it out of you for free, and it also speaks to the rest of your room, that they will also have to pay to see (If they're freeloaders, they'll usually take off after you've gotten dressed, stop showing ass bb). They want to haggle, they want to get their way while still staying on your good side, so usually, they'll tip. If they're a freeloading piece of scum, they'll just take off and leave. Either way, to the rest of your room, you've shown your dominance and assertiveness but in a way that still makes them feel like they have a choice (children and men seem to fall under the same level of mature decision-making and power-trip issues, for me, anyway) and you've also (I hope) been sweet and gracious before beginning to ignore said freeloaders, which only makes you seem like a self-sufficient, nice woman, which many men will like. That also entices anyone else in your room that's going to pay to throw up that money, because making the freeloaders look like scum gets off the paying customers, too! Just keep a positive outlook on it. Every guy you turn down something free for just reminds another custie and yourself that you're WORTH IT!

    On your worst days, in a full room, smirk and jab to the right and say, "THIS GUY... Thinks I'm cheap like him! Bb, time is money honey! If you can't afford me, you're not worthy! Cheap bastard, can't even afford a tip to see this fine ass/titties/kitty/etc" ... If you have regs in your room, that's usually the cue for them to take you pvt or tip you (< That last one is what other women say, I usually never have a full room, so I can't say). It's all a hustle game, find what works for you. Try different approaches. Try the nice girl scene, the bitchy scene, the quiet scene, shit, put on a ton of eyeliner and wear all black and try the goth chick dom scene. You never know which approach will REALLY resonate with them.

    I also wanted to say, when I first started camming (On imlive) every time someone said, stand bb, twirl bb, show ass bb, dance bb, show feet bb, blow me a kiss bb, etc etc etc, I always did it... Now, I raise my eyebrows and say, "Baby, requests come with tips in my world" Or some other thing that brings the tip into it. If they leave, they weren't gonna pay you anyway, and they aren't gonna pay me, and they aren't gonna pay ANY camgirl. Stand up for yourself! If they didn't want to interact with a real chick, they'd be on a free tube site... But they don't want to pay for play, so they're trying to scam you.

    Sorry if that's a weird response. I'm a little scatter-brained. O.o

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    Not at all scatterbrained, it's spot on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vela Valentine View Post
    ^ THIS. I learned this in a parenting class in my town. When a child asks you for xyz, you can give them a choice, because it makes them feel like THEY'RE still in a position of power instead of you. So if you always give a choice, it will impose the impression that they are the ones in control and you're not in control, you're simply negotiating with them.... you've shown your dominance and assertiveness but in a way that still makes them feel like they have a choice (children and men seem to fall under the same level of mature decision-making and power-trip issues, for me, anyway)
    Hahahaha YES bb! That's exactly why I like to say it that way! I don't have children but I heard about this parenting technique and it seemed so applicable to cam custies as well, strangely. I just got tired of saying "no" all the time. I think when you're constantly saying "no" it can make you appear standoffish and boring, so I started giving guys the either/or option (either tip me OR take me private) so they would still think they have a choice in the matter. And they do. I personally don't care how I am getting paid as long as I am getting paid, and they feel like they have options. I do think they are more likely to spend on an option that they are picking- even though my outcome is the same regardless of what they pick so I couldn't care less.

    Sometimes I will phrase it like that and guys will still be all, "Come on, just a quick peek. Handbra?" And I love to reply with, "Of course! I can't wait to get these tits out of my shirt and set them free. I am just waiting for you to do what you need to do first. What are you waiting for?" Once again it puts the onus on them. I think this reminds them that I am here and available for sexy times, I am eager and willing to do what they ask, but THEY are the ones who ultimately determine how this is going to go down.

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    Also try ignoring that request, and asking THEM questions...let them get the conversation going! It'll be entertaining at the very least. And hang in there!!!

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    DON'T EVER feel greedy for asking for tokens. YOU ARE WORTH SOMETHING!Be flirty and friendly and save your goods for tippers. Don't give your room the impression that you feel bad asking for what youre worth! Decide how much you would feel comfy doing things for and stick to it! If you find youre having lots of trouble completing goals, drop your goal a bit [ BUT DON'T GO CRAZY!] and up your chattyness. Look up stuff to talk about if you have to. . trying to make the quick buck with super low goals ensures you won't get anywhere so don't do that no matter HOW much you want to just make a few dollars lol. It will hurt you long term if you give the customers the impresion that you don't value yourself more than a few tokens. Also remember they are not just paying for your body parts [ as lots of people assume] they are paying for your time, and your personality and conversation. You'rent just some flashy body parts =D

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