She was so fucked up...wow.





I lost all interest in her way back when she got all that plastic. Some women can pull it off, but she was never one of them--and she also completely ruined one of the finest pair of natural breasts in porn history. All that plastic did was ruin her looks from the getgo, and then it kept getting worse. As far as her being fucked up, well yeah for Fox News she was. But I've had to put many women onstage who were worse than that haha! In some of these clubs you will get in trouble for doing it, in others you can get fired for not doing it.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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Jenna Jameson was like my idol back in the day. Watching that video made me sad. She went too far with the plastic surgery and was clearly on drugs.
I saw her in person at a club opening years ago and she was absolutely stunning. I understand aging is difficult for women, but she lost a lot of her natural beauty in all the surgeries. I read her book a few years back, and despite her massive success, parts of her life were very tough. I feel bad her marriage with Tito Ortiz didn't work out :-(
Hopefully she can turn herself around....I also watched her interview with Jim Norton in which she was also visibly on something. So sad.





Just like with the dancing, the porn lifestyle seems to be destructive to some women, whereas others will continue to prosper and maintain or even improve their appearance. The ones that get addicted to the nasty shit do the very worst it seems.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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Her manager did a crappy job w that crowd. Fired.
read her first book and thought she had it together towards the end. Then we find out her house is in foreclosure, Tito and her are attacking each other on twitter, and she loses custody of her kids--bummer. Wonder why the marriage with Jay Grdna crumbled..
I can't believe they let her on the air in that condition. I guess Fox thought it would be great for ratings and it has been, everyone is talking about that segment.
I don't know if her career in porn has anything to do with her addiction....I mean, there's a shit ton of people hooked on pills etc that lead totally vanilla lives. Addiction doesn't play favorites and peeps from all walks of life are vulnerable. The segment def plays into the stereotype of 'sex work as damaging to the mind body and soul' though.
I'm with SwanPrincess, I hope she's able to get sober. Wish her well.





Thanks for the extra vid Sophie..I can't bear to watch it though, I read her one book, "how to love like a porn star" I think it's called? I also saw an E chanel story about her awhile back. I also remember her strong following & gorj looks when I worked for PB
MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt





She's obviously very medicated and going through deeply emotional turmoil. She needs help and I'm concerned that she doesn't have anyone around her that has her well-being at heart. She was in no condition to appear on the news show/radio/anything... if she has a manager or a handler of some sort, they need to reign her in or at least reschedule the appearances. A thought did cross my mind: what if the publishing company person who is arranging these interviews wants to drum up publicity for the new book with Jenna in full blown Hot Mess Mode? I mean, if she were coherent, it could be forgettable... but when these videos are posted and reposted nationally/internationally it does increase interest... *sigh* I hope this isn't some spooky publicity stunt cooked up by a PR firm.
I wish Jenna the best with her book but more importantly, I hope she finds help and gets her kids back.





exactly!! the drug-addicted porn star/stripper will always be a popular stereotype though, people gobble it right up, even though ANYBODY, ANYWHERE could get addicted to substances..in fact i was at my worst way before i ever entered the adult industry. that's not what sells though, they want shock, drugs, and sex all thrown in there to grab attention. i've watched her E channel life story as well, and i gotta say i feel so bad for that poor girl. she got into drugs long before her porn career, so i don't think that has anything to do with it


So sad. First getting hit, having her kids taken away, and then her house in is foreclosure. I don't foresee anything good coming out of this but you never know. I wish her all the best and hope she can get her shit together because she seems to have the right attitude.





Color me very jaded, but from what I have seen (stripclubs not direct experience in porn) it is easier to get sucked into drug abuse while working the industry. Of course there are exceptions to any generalization like this. But I have seen FAR more people get sucked into substance abuse after getting into the business than those who mastered the craving afterward.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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I have never really been a fan but she is clearly going through a bad time right now and probably doesn't have any true friends to help her through it. She hasn't made a movie in a very long time but made a good living from personal appearances and feature dancing for years. That has pretty much dried up for her. Sadly she probably kept spending like a porn star long after she stopped earning like one. I hope she finds her way out of this...





Though in her case I suspect she'd have had substance abuse issues if she was a schoolteacher instead of a semi-retired pornstar. And as a friend of mine pointed out in a discussion about this in another adult industry forum, prescription drug abuse is much worse than illegal drug abuse in this country.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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Somewhere I saw someone mention she was also a hot mess on MFC. Wouldn't surprise me. Very sad to see this happening.
Oh BTW that first book she wrote was clearly part bullshit. though maybe like a lot of delusional people she may have actually believed her own line of shit. I wonder who the ghost writer was? It's been about ten years since I read part of it.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
______________________________________





Yeah, everyone I associate with, the adult industry has benefited them and allowed them to have a much higher quality of life than they could have had otherwise.
Why don't people use their brains? ANYONE can be addicted to ANYTHING! When I was a makeup artist, when I first started off in a department store, so many of those girls would take breaks all the time to smoke weed, many would take adderall or do coke or meth just to stay awake (a few of them had 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet!), and some of them even popped opiates (oxy) left & right.
IMO, the adult industry is only bad for those who have no self-control. Yes, money can lead to buying more drugs, but not for most.
Also, RE: Jenna, if you watch her first interviews, she says her childhood was really normal and great. Then, people kept pressing her like THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING WRONG IN YOUR CHILDHOOD FOR YOU TO HAVE CHOSEN PORN!!!! Even Howard Stern asked her that 800million times every time she came on his show at the start of her career. I LOVE Howard, but he gets annoying like that a lot. And then all of a sudden she played the victim and everyone ate it up, and she hasn't stopped since. You can watch one of them here (they are all over youtube):





Off topic, but I am curious... Why do you like Howard Stern? I've heard some of his shows, I've seen the TV version of his radio show... I just don't get it. I respect your opinion and I am curious to know why you like him. Is he funny? Is he insightful? What's the appeal? He always came across as a lascivious creep. What am I missing?





I am really glad to hear that you have worked in such well-controlled clubs.
I started djing many years after entering the workforce. In every single club I have worked in 14 years, alcoholism and drug abuse were FAR more prevalent in employee of both sexes, than in any other work environment I have seen or heard of. In more than one club, substance abuse issues were more common than not.
Working in an establishment selling liquor; in which customers are being pushed to the max to buy drinks for the dancers; and in which an enormous number of customers believe that they will increase mileage by plying the dancers with drinks, there is absofuckinglutely an enormous increase in risk to those who are prone to substance abuse. Much more than working in an insurance office, retail establishment, the post office, a library...
Ask anyone with any experience whatsoever in substance abuse treatment programs. They will tell you that working in any kind of bar at all is very risky for addictive personalities.
Then add all the pimps, drug dealers, guys who know the power blow has over so many people in the industry so they bring it in, and the risk of getting sucked in for the weak-willed rises exponentially.
Given the crossover in the adult industry, particularly when so many porn stars are also feature dancing, and it seems to me that anyone using their brains at all will clearly see the danger of addiction is much, much greater.
But of course everyone's experience and perception will vary.
Last edited by Djoser; 10-23-2013 at 01:50 PM.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
______________________________________





i think if you are an alcoholic, yeah the clubs/bars will get you to drink more. i absolutely hate alcohol, and after getting drunk once at work and having ALL my champagne room money stolen i never touched it again and that was two years ago. as for drugs, i worked at dunkin donuts before stripping in my very early 20s and there was SO much drug abuse and pill popping, way more than i've noticed in the club but maybe that's because i don't do it anymore..anybody who is caught is immediately fired so its very hush-hush if the girls do it. never seen it. all i know is that stripping has never gotten me into anything, but im sure you are right in a lot of cases esp with alcohol.
This is sad to see her (or anyone) fall back into drugs. I've been a fan since I read her book in high school. And then losing her kids. I can't exactly sympathize there, spending the last years of my childhood in foster care I don't have much pity for people who get their kids taken away due to drug abuse or anything that could have been prevented. I hope she can turn it around though.
Watching this video after watching the interview breaks my heart.



There's a genetic component to drug addiction and alcoholism, enough of the morality and moral weakness crap. This will be a treatable disease in the years ahead but it will probably come too late for Jenna the way she is going.
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Yeah the clubs that don't tolerate abuse have way less of it. But most I've worked either don't care what the girls do, so long as they make it to stage and don't fall off it (yeah I have seen that more than once lol), or worse yet have managers and/or bouncers & djs who are either dealing drugs or friends with the dealers.
I worked in one club where every drug known to man was being done in the dressing room every night all night--it was like a pharmacology lab in there. Way more than half the dancers were fucked up on drugs and/or alcohol every night.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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