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    Jasminedoll i get mistaken for haitian and cuban all the time. Im caramel skin so im not too dark. Im just done with the club. I emailed the club and this is what he said " Speaking as the owner, we do not have a quota of any ethnic background. Applying in Summer, or during winter holidays is bad. Other than that we do general auditions Thursdays, Sundays and Mondays between 8pmand 11pm"

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    is there such a thing as too many asians?? its pretty rare you see asian girls stripping i would think, same with jewish. the few asians i've worked with have been at the top of the food chain, even higher than the busty bleached-blond barbies.

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    I'm just shocked that Vegas is turning out to be so hard for the OP when they have 400llb women of all races shaking their stuff onstage!!!!!! It's at some club called Foxy's.

    I've never been to Vegas, but my understanding is that isn't there something for everyone there? I figure if 400llb women can get hired why can't a hot black girl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by misssincere View Post
    Jasminedoll i get mistaken for haitian and cuban all the time. Im caramel skin so im not too dark. Im just done with the club. I emailed the club and this is what he said " Speaking as the owner, we do not have a quota of any ethnic background. Applying in Summer, or during winter holidays is bad. Other than that we do general auditions Thursdays, Sundays and Mondays between 8pmand 11pm"
    I'm not positive about this, but I'm pretty sure it's illegal for the clubs to admit they have racial quotas. Even though we aren't employees, businesses still have to abide by laws that prevent discrimination. We all know the quotas exist. But I'm not surprised the dude you emailed denied that they do. Strippers apply to work in Vegas year round. Tons of girls travel there and just work a couple weeks whenever they feel like it. So, I don't think that's the issue either. I think the issue is that the people running this particular club are d-bags. But there are so many places to work in Vegas! Have you tried many other places?

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    I like to make my pilgrimages to Vegas during the conventions or right after Christmas, though the New Year. The clubs are always hiring. Have you tried the Gulch? I haven't been there in awhile, but I used to go fairly often. When I was there the management was decent and they liked a little diversity in their flock of strippers.

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    I agree with the whole BAP S theory: I'm black and I went to audition at a club tonight, a prominent one in New York City, and all of the black girls that work there look like man horse hybrids. Couldn't wrap my head around it lol


    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    misssincere, you will sometimes hear replies from people who like to believe that there is no racism in clubs, that there is only wise all knowing club owners who pay strict attention to hiring standards that reflect demand. Of course in this case that kind of reply makes no room for the segregation of black performers in an adjoining club. Were there no demand, the adjoining club simply would not exist. So...yeah, you got yourself a clear case of racism and I'd advise applying at a different club. It's not about you or your qualifications. As the guy said they don't hire many black girls. And there are some managers who will hire the worst candidates (think B.A.P.S.) to rig the game so to speak. They appear to be fair by having a few black women working but they ensure these are girls who will not compete with the white dancers or be able to actually get ahead at that job.

    If you want to read up on the wild and woolly practices of racist club owners and managers, do a search on this forum and the newbie forum.
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    Thats the only club thats told me no. Maybe im pissed becuz they said no lol... It still bothers me knowing the reason behind it

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    Well, a lot of mgrs. are jacked up jerks..in my opinion. They are just plain freakin' rude.


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    Ironically i got hired at a hispanic club a few hours ago. Go figure.

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    Don't start the racism shit. There are black clubs that wouldn't even think of hiring a white dancer unless she had major black attributes. It is what it is. Keep trying, OP. You don't need that club.

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    Sorry but hispanic club? Exactly my point. They get theirs. Black clubs get black clubs but GOD forbid a white club.

    You will do great and once you get some more experience and stripper swag you can move along if you want to.

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    Op, I wouldn't even want to work at a club with that attitude. This happens all the time in clubs but it's just not black girls. I've been rejected because I have dark hair and some clubs told me they had enough Hispanic woman (though I'm not Hispanic).I've had white friends hired at black clubs only because they have big butts. There was a club that rarely hired black girls unless they were slim. There are many reasons why clubs do this, anything from their clientele only likes a certain type to the area to the manager's preference. Just move on and find a club that wants you.

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    Hey OP, sorry to hear about your experience. I have a friend who is having a similar issue. She's using some skin lightening stuff to up her chances to get hired at more clubs. I think she's going for a Beyonce skin tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    I hesitate to answer this at all. However, I'll try to do so carefully ...

    Where strip club 'marketing' is concerned, clubowners often try to match the physical characteristics of the dancers they hire to the physical characteristics that 'sell' best to the club's customer base. From the clubowner's viewpoint, those physical characteristics include such things as DD cups, long legs, tattoos, blonde hair, caramel skin tone, body mass index, etc.
    This is true, usually the dancers in a club in a particular geographic location are a microcosm of the surrounding general population. For example in Atlanta, the best clubs are all black clubs, it seems as if the Cheetah and all those big names are going down, it's all about Onyx and Magic City now. However, the city of Atlanta is roughly 53% black, therefore that makes sense. In Raleigh, NC the proportion of black dancers (about 1/5 of the girls) reflected the demographic of the city. No one is going to be successful everywhere, no matter how beautiful and talented you are, but on the flip-side there is a niche for everyone, it's finding that niche that is a bit challenging. I was fired once for losing too much weight. Seriously, I was told I looked anorexic, I was just stressed out and really only a few lbs below average, but my look was just not an ideal fit for that environment.

    Racism and perceived racism are all things we are exposed to subliminally at a young age. The whole thing is a modern day "Tower of Babel". It seems to be in place to prevent everyone from open communication and being comfortable around other homo sapiens due to some finite physical barrier; we stick to a comfort zone of a phenotype that mirrors our own. So, we all inhabit the same environment, but are strangers among one another. It is the ultimate brick wall, make it impossible or awkward to communicate with someone unlike yourself and then blame the others for not understanding you, while they blame you for not understanding them. It doesn't have to be this way, but it starts with retraining the way you think about others and how you react to rejection, acceptance, and human interaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strippername View Post
    Don't start the racism shit. There are black clubs that wouldn't even think of hiring a white dancer unless she had major black attributes. It is what it is. Keep trying, OP. You don't need that club.
    Why would you say don't start the racism shit if it is what the OP experienced and others have come in to back her up with what they have seen and experienced? If it's not racism then what is it?

    What does white girls not getting hired at black clubs have to do with what she experienced? What is your experience (assuming you are white- with that situation?)

    It has been said time and time again that black clubs are way more accepting than the reverse. They usually hire white dancers whether or not they have 'black attributes' and let them sink or swim in the environment. Managers at white clubs who want to uphold the status quo or who don't want too
    Many or any black dancers don't even give that option.

    If they think she's not cut out for the club, what is the harm in hiring her? If none of the customers want her there, I bet they won't give her money just for charity and I doubt she would continue working making NO money.

    Just call it what it is- why minimize or negate someone else's experience just because it's something you don't understand or comprehend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sansonnet View Post
    Hey OP, sorry to hear about your experience. I have a friend who is having a similar issue. She's using some skin lightening stuff to up her chances to get hired at more clubs. I think she's going for a Beyonce skin tone.
    I'm sorry to read this. Skin lightening will destroy her skin over time. My parents are from a country where this is something quite a few people do. One, it never looks natural once they get lighter, two- it destroys the skin.

    A relative of mine coats herself in that from head to toe. She went to get a pedicure, and her skin was so damaged and weak that she bled from the pumice stone being rubbed on her feet.

    Please advise your friend that it's not worth destroying herself permanently to work at a strip club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misssincere View Post
    Ironically i got hired at a hispanic club a few hours ago. Go figure.
    I've worked in both black and white clubs....Hispanic men frequent both but I come across them more in black clubs. Latin men are used to varying shades of color from light to dark in Latina women anyway so it's not surprising to me. Good luck wherever you decide to venture to in the future, and grow a thick skin because you may need it.
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    but I'm pretty sure it's illegal for the clubs to admit they have racial quotas. Even though we aren't employees, businesses still have to abide by laws that prevent discrimination. We all know the quotas exist. But I'm not surprised the dude you emailed denied that they do.
    This is true, usually the dancers in a club in a particular geographic location are a microcosm of the surrounding general population. For example in Atlanta, the best clubs are all black clubs, it seems as if the Cheetah and all those big names are going down, it's all about Onyx and Magic City now. However, the city of Atlanta is roughly 53% black, therefore that makes sense. In Raleigh, NC the proportion of black dancers (about 1/5 of the girls) reflected the demographic of the city. No one is going to be successful everywhere, no matter how beautiful and talented you are, but on the flip-side there is a niche for everyone, it's finding that niche that is a bit challenging. I was fired once for losing too much weight
    Why would you say don't start the racism shit if it is what the OP experienced and others have come in to back her up with what they have seen and experienced? If it's not racism then what is it?

    All of this circles back to a 'poorly received' point that I attempted to make early on in this thread.

    The fact that a given club may decide not to hire a given dancer, based on the clubowner's 'impression' of what sort of dancer physical attributes will 'sell' the best to the club's particular customer base, happens all the time. This does not automatically translate into a case of 'discrimination' ! If a clubowner refuses to hire too many 'older' dancers, does that make the club guilty of 'age discrimination' ? If an upscale urban club with a primarily black customer base refuses to hire too many 'light skinned' dancers, does that make the club guilty of 'racial discrimination' ? If a club refuses to hire too many 'mexican' dancers, does that make the club guilty of 'discrimination' on the basis of 'national origin' ?

    Obviously, official 'discrimination' on the basis of race, creed, color, religion, national origin etc. is illegal ... as are hiring quotas by employers. However, where independent contractor dancers are concerned, a clubowner deciding to engage the services of a particular independent contractor versus a different independent contractor leaves a huge amount of officlal leeway, given that a dancer's physical attributes are a significant part of her 'qualifications'.
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    Sorry Melonie: I actually thought your point was a good one, I was just pointing out observations of instances where that seems to be the prevailing situation.

    To the OP: any club that doesn't want to hire you for whatever reason, just move onto something better. There are plenty of clubs that would love to have you I am sure, so don't let one bad experience ruin your mood.
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    as a dancer of color this happens all the time and was the first tough lesson i had to learn. please dont take it to heart. i used to get upset that i was getting turned away from places like scores or the upscale majority white clubs. when i finally got hired at one...everyone from the security to the other dancers envied my long legs and exotic curves... but did i make money ...not that much lol. the customers were just way too intimidated and/or down right rude, ive had bottle caps thrown at me,called a nigger, and assaulted in VIP rooms . Its just not worth it anymore i hustle way too hard for that bullshit
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    ^^^ and I thought that YOUR point about Atlanta's Onyx and Magic City clubs was a good one as well. And Atlanta is not unique in that regard i.e. other clubs in other cities catering to upscale urban black customers who will generally NOT spend a whole lot of money on a skinny white dancer with a flat butt.

    As Liv again points out above, right or wrong, particular club customer bases do have particular preferences. And while I'll admit that there are a certain number of totally screwed up clubowners out there, there are also quite a number of 'professional' club owners / managers who do pay attention to trying to match up customer preferences with the cross-section of dancers hired by the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strippername View Post
    Don't start the racism shit. There are black clubs that wouldn't even think of hiring a white dancer unless she had major black attributes. It is what it is. Keep trying, OP. You don't need that club.
    It simply is not your place to tell girls "don't start the racism shit" when you are not the one that has to deal with it! Obviously since several girls here have given their experiences with racism, it IS something that black girls have to deal with. I work at mostly white clubs and tried to bring my dark-skinned black friend with me to one and my manager flat out told her, "sorry, I have too many black girls." Obviously this doesn't happen to you. That doesn't mean you should tell other girls who it does happen to to stop discussing it.

    And the thing you said about black clubs, please. There are plenty of black clubs who love to hire white girls. I look racially ambiguous (most customer guess I'm Italian, Middle Eastern, or Indian) and the one time I danced at a black club they LOVED me, and I don't have the "black attributes" I assume you were talking about (I'm a size 1 at my largest and don't have the black girl ass or anything of that nature). Not to mention that this thread isn't about a white girl not getting hired at a black club, it's about a black girl not getting hired at a white club, so why bring black clubs into this? When a white girl makes a post about not getting hired at a black club, that's when you should discuss it. Not here.

    Black girls do face racism in this industry and it's absurd to deny it. OP, I'm sorry you're having such a hard time. It's not fair but it's the way it is. Keep trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strippername View Post
    Sorry but hispanic club? Exactly my point. They get theirs. Black clubs get black clubs but GOD forbid a white club.

    You will do great and once you get some more experience and stripper swag you can move along if you want to.

    Whether it be a white girl turned down at a black club or a black girl turned down at a white club. Its still racism. So dont tell me not to start the racism shit, it is what it is. Have u ever been in a similar situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by strippername View Post
    Sorry but hispanic club? Exactly my point. They get theirs. Black clubs get black clubs but GOD forbid a white club.

    You will do great and once you get some more experience and stripper swag you can move along if you want to.
    Why question the fact that i said hispanic club but youve referred to clubs as both lack and white clubs? And my stripper swag is fine. The.only thing stopping me from moving around is my age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strippername View Post
    Sorry but hispanic club? Exactly my point. They get theirs. Black clubs get black clubs but GOD forbid a white club.

    You will do great and once you get some more experience and stripper swag you can move along if you want to.
    Why question the fact that i said hispanic club but youve referred to clubs as both black and white clubs? And my stripper swag is fine. The only thing stopping me from moving around is my age.

    But to everyone else thankyou. Getting different opinions helps me deal with the fact that it does happen. It was the first time it really affected me so i had a little rant. My skins tough. Ill get hired somewhere else. Im sure of it

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