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    Default current opinions on cams, imlive, ifriends ?

    I am thinking about adding a new egg to my camming career and I would like some updated opinions from ladies who are currently working the three sites below. I have read everything I could find on them since I joined SW, but some stuff is rather old. My list of potentials include cams (streamray), imlive, and ifriends. I keep dreaming of split camming 4 sites at once, but so far I am really struggling with running 3, and 2 concurrently seems to be my comfort zone. I have worked SM and LJ at the same time. I love the interface on SM (pause button, easy to use), and I hate LJ's traffic and rules, as well as their interface.

    With that in mind, if I only added one extra site for now, which one would you recommend? (I am quitting LJ as soon as I reach payout, but that has been a VERY painful process so far with the lack of custies and 25% cut from free chat, since LJ says I "look" bad lol). I know those 3 sites above have the chargeback issue, and cheapos/beggars (aren't those everywhere really).. but if you do work them, what do you like most/least about each one?

    I like SM because it seems that if you put the time into it, you really have a fair chance to improve placement and make ok money, even if you're not hot and bubbly like page 1 girls. I saw an increase in traffic on SM after 1-2 weeks of a couple hours on, almost daily, although it was painful at first only making say 15 bucks in 3 hours (when you're buried on page 10).

    I am looking for the site that has the best chance of duplicating that result given the right amount of effort, unlike LJ where I frequently sit in chat for hours, and only get maybe 1-2 sessions of a few minutes each (I'm not purposely torturing myself with LJ - It is a waste of time for me, but I'm not letting them keep my hard earned money when I'm sooo close to payout finally).

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    Default Re: current opinions on cams, imlive, ifriends ?

    I went from SM to ImLive. After the 0.98 intro (you have to work your first 90 minutes at 0.98/min) traffic slowed way down for a bit, but then it picked up and now when things are going well I'm making probably 75% of the money I used to make on SM before it got slow for me. It's fairly similar to SM in a lot of ways. IML also recently changed its chargeback policy--now you only get hit with chargebacks if they're more than 15% of your average from the past six pay periods.

    What I like about IML:

    -- It takes up less bandwidth and doesn't use an encoder, so it's a lot less of a tech headache.
    -- Guys have to buy credits then spend them on site, and you can see who has credits in their account and who doesn't so you know who's serious about buying a show.
    -- You can buy traffic with Hot Spots. It's 0.40 to get to spot #4 (your placement goes down as other girls buy the top spot) and 0.70 to get in the top 3. This feature can really help if you get buried under hundreds of other girls.
    -- Standards are different. Whether this is fair or not is another issue but a lot of girls don't speak English as a first language so just by speaking English well, having a well written profile, etc you stand out.
    -- There's some really cool features (fantasies, parties, self tags, forums, etc) which I've only begun to delve into.
    -- You can earn guaranteed money during Happy Hour. It's not a lot ($7/hr, plus gifts but those aren't guaranteed) and I've only done it once for a couple minutes but I earned like $0.70 without anyone even coming into my room, which was kind of a novelty haha.
    -- Not sure if this is IML-specific or because my profile is different but I get a lot more fetish guys and non-nude shows on IML, which I love.
    -- Payout is lower ($50 for Payoneer, as opposed to SM's $100) so it's easier to make payout.
    -- After you complete 120 hours of free chat you can opt out and only take privates.
    -- Their peeping rules are more strict--I don't want to list them here but the 30 second guys aren't an issue like they are on SM.
    -- There's a host info box that tells you how long you've been in pvt, etc. Also useful for dragging over gross c2c's.
    -- You can block guys without them being in your room.
    -- You can give out discount codes for 0.20 & 0.40 off per minute to easily customize your rates.


    Things I don't like about IML:

    -- Guests can come into your room and talk to you without registering. They're almost always timewasters.
    -- It doesn't have a phone feature, so if someone wants phone you have to use your number (or preferably Google Voice or another fake number.) I'm actually not sure if this is allowed but a lot of girls do it, including myself.
    -- You don't have to approve c2c, which is kind of annoying.
    -- Guests can't tip you in free chat, only after a pvt. So you can't flash for tips in free chat or anything like that.
    -- You only get 30% (unless you're in the Hall of Fame--I forget what their percentage is) but that's my percentage on SM anyway so I don't personally mind.
    -- It's hard to pull off the same per minute rates as SM. IML custies tend to be cheaper. I'm 4.99/5.99 on SM but only 3.80 on IML. Rates max out at 5.80.
    -- It can be really glitchy sometimes (Hot Spots not working, kicking you off without notifying you, etc), but then again so can SM.
    -- Chargebacks aren't completely gone--if you don't work for a while/do anything to bring your average down you can still get hit with one (I did, since I didn't work my first couple of pay periods.)
    -- THE FUCKING EMOTICONS. No really, the (sexualized) emoticons are awful and make me want to kill things. Used exclusively by broke guests, most of whom I'm guessing don't speak English so they beg/perv in gif form.
    -- There are a looooot of non-English speakers, way more than SM. There is a translate function but I don't personally want to bother with people who can't understand me. Luckily they usually don't have credits anyway. If one happens to speak Romanian or Arabic this might be a plus.
    -- Support is more involved (as opposed to SM's hands-off approach), and they can be more than a little snippy. However SM support can be snippy too, you just don't hear from them as much.
    -- The 0.98 intro is kind of a PITA but traffic is good during that time so it goes quickly.
    -- There's no "classic chat" option, it's all party chat all the time. However IME guys almost never talk to each other.
    -- There's an exclusive option but it's not like SM. You can opt out but you can't set your own price and it's much higher than my normal per minute rate. I have it enabled but have never had gotten an exclusive show. So for exclusive-type shows I usually just click "Set as private" so as not to get bad ratings/reviews from neglected customers, but I don't get paid any more than a regular show.

    Do you think that's thorough enough? Sorry for the novel. I do recommend IML, you just have to get used to it first.

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    Default Re: current opinions on cams, imlive, ifriends ?

    Ifriends has the transparent privacy screen which I always hated when I worked there because guests can see through it so it's kind of like you're in a free chat mode except there's not the traffic to go along with it. I think they used to have a group chat option like cams.com has which would be ideal for doing voyeur shows or for splitting but they got rid of that recently. I was looking into this a few months back for the same reason as you. I never worked on IML only have experience with ifriends and Cams. On cams you need to have super low prices. A lot of the guys are from europe and they're not demanding at all which is nice and makes it worth the low prices to some extent. I could see it being easy to split with cause of that. In my experience they also do shorter shows like less than five minutes. Ifriends guys will pay more and stay in longer (the few customers you do get) are usually very needy and require all your attention so it just depends on which thing you like/dislike more.

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    Default Re: current opinions on cams, imlive, ifriends ?

    *I've never cammed on Cams.com.

    *I quit IFriends a lot time ago. I thought it was confusing, and I was pissed to learn that I'd given some guy a free 30-minute show. Apparently when you select the 'pay-per-minute paid chat' option (because you don't wanna do free video chat), you're still starting out in free video chat mode. I didn't know this, so when a guy came in I thought it was the start of a private show, so I spent 30 minutes with him chatting butt-ass naked. Needless to say, I was pissed off when I checked my earnings and saw zeros.

    *I like doing ImLive paid chat only mode. The traffic isn't great like it is on MFC and Streamate, but it's a good site to log into while doing other things online. You never know when a member with credits is gonna buzz you for private, so you might as well log into it during times when you'll be at the computer anyway. Take advantage of the different features like HotSpots, which gives you better visibility on the homepage. You can use the mailing list feature once a day to send a message out to all the members on your list (members who've previously taken you private). Record your private shows sometimes and save them to your Host-recorded live sessions page, so members can pay to watch your recorded sessions. As for the guys who take you private and immediately have that 'Under 2 minutes remaining' alert message on the screen...don't be so quick to kick them out of the session. Sometimes you'll have members like that who will actually buy more credits before their time runs out. I think it's a good site for fetish shows too. On MFC the private shows I get are always for toy play, while on ImLive I often times don't even have to whip out a toy.
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    Default Re: current opinions on cams, imlive, ifriends ?

    Thank you for this wealth of info! It is much appreciated. There was a time when I felt IML was on par with LJ for quality of traffic and cheap guys, but it seems like it would be worth a try. I really disliked the 98 cent intro on LJ. Lol How cheap are prices on cams? I had no idea the clientelle was non usa. I do not have a problem with short shows. It is more of a workout for me and god knows my ass needs it. Lol I am at 3.99/4.99 on SM and if I could stay close to that on other sites I would be ok with it as long as there is paying traffic which is scarce on some sites.

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    Default Re: current opinions on cams, imlive, ifriends ?

    I did sm and IML this am. Sm was slower than usual for a Sunday even though I had awesome placement. And even using splitter software, I was still in top 2 rows. I also jumped on IML for the first time in a while and tried 5.80 a minute. I made $20 in about 90min. Not much, but I haven't worked that site in a few years because SM has been steadier with paying traffic. If you have the pause button enabled for SM, it's easy to take a quick show elsewhere, but I'm not doing them cheaper just to stay busier, because then I can loose traffic on SM.....for 5.80 a minute, I don't mind. There are plenty of opportunities for the IML guys to get a discount....


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    Default Re: current opinions on cams, imlive, ifriends ?

    On cams I charge 2.99 (no sound no phone no roleplaying no anal) I do group/nude chat which I like because there is no free chat to contend with. Its half what I used to charge on ifriends but personally I find it so much less stressful I dont mind and I can work more days because I get less burnt out mentally/emotionally.

    As for earning potential its hard to say. There is a cam score and any rating from a customer less than 5 stars seems to affect you negatively, but it seems most guys rate 5 stars or dont rate at all. Since Im still new there Im still in the stage where my placement is improving so its hard to say what an established model could earn. So far the best Ive managed is about $20 per hour.

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    Default Re: current opinions on cams, imlive, ifriends ?

    I like cams because guys there are easy. I do not like dildos, period. Many privates I get like a slow tease and fingering. Zoom is a feature they seem to be spoiled on too, so use it if you have it. Livejasmin, (pukes) I do not care for the amount of customers who do not like Americans, or admins for that matter. So I just stopped working that site. However a performer (even with new rules in Hot Flirt) I know of just hit $1,000 for the week. She is aiming for $2,000 payout. She is American, she just has a kick ass following. I always hated all the stupid rules on that site, and trying to explain myself to admin, WHY the FUCK I was looking down on a private for a moment. I AM NOT TAKING EMAILS OR NUMBERS! That site brought me a lot of dough, but was not worth the BS that comes with it. I was fucking number 1 on the page of girls for many months, then they changed so much. OH and my pictures sucked after hanging as the number one girl on the page with many privates, so they blew my mojo away.
    Screw them.

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    Let me tell you on Livejasmin i run two accounts for chump change, since my pc set can allow it. While both accounts get same quality video and audio split on of them one got rated good, and the other was rated bad. How come , only they know? So they took away 10 percent from the 30 percent, that means my current earning percentage on LJ is 20%. When member enter private when i happen to be in member chat where i earn 15% with the newest improvements i don't even perform anymore. The lowest i saw on a site. Oh and it's not over, they want higher aspect ratio next, which will bring more improved penalties penalties with it of course. The software used for it eats away 40% CPU. Why do i stay with it? Curiosity perhaps. Watching a train wreck. Stress level is 100 % with this site.

    The site stressing me the least is cams. Laid back. while earning potential is not the best, it's a good backup, for supplemental income.

    On imlive i got half of my earnings charged back always just before the payout, sometimes while not making the payout, so one day i said, enough. I am reading eagerly the Imlive not chargeback treads to see when they hit again.

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    I think cams needs way more traffic. They are also liars when they say you can make 45 percent. They tack on extra shit and you actually get paid 29 percent.

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    Is there an honest cam site out there anymore? Really getting sick of all of it lately.

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    Default Re: current opinions on cams, imlive, ifriends ?

    Probably Imlive is the best option of those 3.

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    I am also a fan of cams. When I don't feel like sitting in free chat, I got into nude chat and just chill. Most custies just want to seem some 'sensual' play and not actual pussy pounding. It is a nice change. I make between $10-$40/hour depending on traffic.

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    So you know my pain with LJ Busygirl.. I'm about 3 dollars away from payout.. staying in free because I'd rather take 25% than 20% after a private. I refuse to wear makeup on cam, and I also have my cam pointing up at my face to hide my long nose, saggy boobs, and bags under my eyes lol. LJ is not a fan of either one of those things in my setup. Some guys like regular normal looking girls and are not looking for the glam experience. I really don't understand where LJ is going with this trend. They are expecting so much of models but then the clientelle is not willing to pay for all that extra stuff. Anyway, I couldn't work this week because it was shark week, but I think I'm diving back into it tomorrow. I may as well start working on my free chat period on IML too. Cams sounds pretty awesome, but with somewhat of a learning curve. Free chat from SM is all I know so this "group" nude business is making me a bit nervous. I have not been on MFC for that reason.

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