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    Hi ladies,

    I have a couple of questions regarding personal websites. I couldn't find anything that answered these questions in my searches so I'm starting a new thread.

    First, I'm going to give some background information. I will be sharing some personal information about my earnings. Please don't think that I am asking you to do the same. I know that this is a private matter for most. I'm mostly looking for a little bit of insight.

    I currently have a membership website on Southern Charms. I update my site 5 days a week with a new photo set. I have also started uploading 4-6 new videos each month. Currently, I am bringing in $200-$300 a month from this. SC pays 50%. I have noticed however, that my BDSM/kink stuff doesn't seem to sell very well there and that is what I really want to focus the most on.

    My question is this, could I make more if I launch my own personal membership website? My thought is to pull all of my kink shoots from Southern Charms and use them to launch a site and integrate it with my streamate profile. Most of my traffic and shows on SM cater to the BDSM crowd so I think it would be popular.

    I'm just wondering if anyone has had success doing this and if it's a good idea to maintain both southern charms and a personal site.

    How often do you update your personal site?

    How much do you charge?

    I am basically looking for a way to be able to do my kink/BDSM pictures and not feel like I am wasting time with them because that is what I love doing the most.

    Thanks in advance for any advice or insight that you may be able to offer!
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    And keep at it. Get up, put on your make up, and sign on. With every second you're online comes the possibility of your next big spender. A customer could show up who will spend enough to make up for all the bad days and then some. You just have to be around for him and working multiple sites increases the chances of him finding you.


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    Also, do you sell your content a la carte as well as offering memberships or do you only offer memberships?

    If I integrate my site with my SM will I be able to advertise some of my other profiles there or only SM?
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    And keep at it. Get up, put on your make up, and sign on. With every second you're online comes the possibility of your next big spender. A customer could show up who will spend enough to make up for all the bad days and then some. You just have to be around for him and working multiple sites increases the chances of him finding you.


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    I barely make anything with mine and have found I make more focusing on clips4sale and use my personal site to direct to affiliates like streamate and my video sales.

    Honestly, membership sites haven't been big money makers since the 90s and early 2000s for most.

    You can direct traffic wherever you want. I have my SM cammodels links up and other site links too.

    You can direct traffic TO streamate along with your other sites just not FROM streamate to your own site.

    My site is mainly for getting signup credit and directing my loyal fans to where I am camming (because as we all know, sites vary in popularity and today's big money maker won't necessarily be big forever). That way my fans can find me if i switch sites.


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    That makes sense thanks! I'm interested to hear what others have to say.
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    And keep at it. Get up, put on your make up, and sign on. With every second you're online comes the possibility of your next big spender. A customer could show up who will spend enough to make up for all the bad days and then some. You just have to be around for him and working multiple sites increases the chances of him finding you.


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    Question do you have your site integrated like I've read about on SM? Like do you offer discounts on your shows for members and stuff?
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    And keep at it. Get up, put on your make up, and sign on. With every second you're online comes the possibility of your next big spender. A customer could show up who will spend enough to make up for all the bad days and then some. You just have to be around for him and working multiple sites increases the chances of him finding you.


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    C4s or some of the fetish clip sites seems like a better fit for you, just update it with vanilla stuff.

    Pics are awesome for marketing but they don't sell as an update on a site, nor have they since everybody has faster internet speed. VIDEO is king.This isn't the 90s topless pics are NOT going to bring in the money, MEN WANT VIDEO.

    ONCE again RULE #1 in business SALES no matter where you put up the videos & pics or open a membership site MARKETING must be a full time job to get it going.

    WHY? Cause over 100 new adult/porn sites go up daily MOST will fail as in 99% of them. -CozyFrog

    Doing a niche will even make a lesser base for the general population, although niche specific fans do spend more money finding them is much harder.

    You can easily open up a site with sites like www.Adultcentro.com or www.elevatedx.com These days you really dont need a webmaster who will want 50% & have no sales or marketing abilities.


    I can tell you getting sales especially the first year is HARD. Men wait before joining a new site to let the content on it build up to make it more bang for their buck. Meanwhile you got to keep investing money into it for updates.

    You need to ask yourself: "How well have you built your brand so far?"
    "Have you conquered social media & have plenty of followers to turn into future sales?"
    "Have you TRULY laid the groundwork to be successful?"
    "Have you built a solid base on the VOD sites like c4s & your Southern charms that will turn into site sales for you later on?"
    "Can you come up with original ways to do marketing that set you apart?
    "How many fetish forums do you participate in?"
    "How are you going to make your content stand out from everyone else?"
    "ARe you ready to pony up the $500 to $750 EACH that Visa & MASTERcard will need as a deposit for billing?"
    "If you do have a 'webmaster' do you have enough skill to take over cause #1 reason solo girl sites fail is crazy 'webmaster' got lazy or fucked the girl over?"
    "Quality? Quality as in the content being professionally shot?" Men all say they love amateur stuff, but then nit pick every single thing wrong with the pics & vidoes as in quality, lighting, angles & such.

    I do have successful solo site, but I put in 20 to 40 hours a week into marketing for YEARS to get where I am now.

    Listen men will tell you they love you & you need a site & then turn around & ask for a free membership since they suggested it. Rather than to give you money.
    If you have all that in place, then go for it & then have a fan steal it all & post it all over the web on tubesites for free cause he LOVES you.

    Good Luck,
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    First, I want to say that running your own website is time consuming. You can start a website using a template, but you're going to NEED some way of password protecting. You're going to need to be able to easily update the videos you make, so it needs to be something you can manage on your own or you will end up paying out the ass for someone to do it for you.

    My website has had quite a number of sign ups, however about 10-15 of them were people that sign up to all porn sites, then post their username and password to forums. It's easy to catch using the AWS on Host Gator, you'll notice their bandwidth usage is unusually high, but there's nothing you can do about making sure no one ever gives out their password. Some months I receive 300-500 emails from people trying to "hack" into my website to retrieve passwords. Since I use a payment processor that created access details for me my website does not maintain the usernames or passwords. It's still a massive pain in the ass having to sort out all of the spam from actual emails. I had to block ALL proxies from my site to prevent this from happening.

    You don't NEED to pay the startup fees for membership payment, Zombaio does it with VERY LITTLE processing fees, most of which are returned to you. I use it for my website and in the last year it's been up and running I have made $3,000. Mind you, I am not well known, but I do spend a bit of my time telling people about my site and to get ANY traffic you will need to actively talk about and advertise it.

    I sell access to my website via tokens as well, but usually the higher I go in price, the fewer people there are that sign up for it. I can create access via Zombaio and change the expiration date, which is handy. It's a LOT of work though. Usually people ask 50 questions before they sign up and on some sites I am not allowed to directly link to my site, so I have to just go through the explanation.

    I *was* updated my website every week, but with over 100 videos it's pretty pointless to keep adding brand new things every week. I charge $20 monthly, $25 for just one month, and $75 for 6 months. The prices aren't that high, but I don't offer access to other sites (like a LOT of models seem to do). If I try to charge more, I can't get anyone to sign up.

    Sorry this was very scatterbrained! This is really all of the info I can give you. Honestly, I think unless you have a huge following - a site like Clips4Sale will be your best bet and make you the most money without being a huge hassle or be time consuming.

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    Thanks guys! This is all very thoughtful and interesting insight. I personally had zero luck with c4s. I May try again but I wasn't happy with my experience there.

    I will be building the site myself and have no intention of working with a webmaster. I have the skills needed to so that.

    Also I am under the impression I can use a payment processor like CCBill or something like that. My boyfriend did this for his fetish art. It certainly didn't cost him $500 or $700 or whatever.

    I market myself on a daily basis. I'm not expecting to be an overnight success or anything crazy like that. I definitely intend to focus more on video but photos are an enjoyable thing for me to do that I won't stop doing entirely.

    Thanks again ladies! Keep your experiences coming, I would love to hear from more of you.
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    And keep at it. Get up, put on your make up, and sign on. With every second you're online comes the possibility of your next big spender. A customer could show up who will spend enough to make up for all the bad days and then some. You just have to be around for him and working multiple sites increases the chances of him finding you.


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    Default Re: Questions for those with personal websites

    Visa will require you to pay a fee, it's $750. Adult is under the high risk category.



    What is an IPSP?

    An IPSP is an online entity that enters into a contract with an Acquirer (Merchant Bank) to shoulder financial responsibility and liability for "high risk" Merchant accounts, by which registered sponsored Merchants (Web site owners) are allowed to process and settle Internet transactions.
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    What type of Sponsored Merchant Web sites fall into VISA's "high-risk" IPSP Category for processing?

    VISA considers any Web site selling downloadable, digital merchandise and/or services or those falling within "Merchant Category Code 5967"—the "high risk" category.
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    How do I register with CCBill to become a VISA USA Sponsored Merchant?

    In order for CCBill.com to register you as a VISA Sponsored Merchant you must:

    Complete the VISA Sponsored Merchant Application, which requires you to provide pertinent information regarding your business
    Pay an Initial Registration Fee of $750

    Upon receipt and review of both of the above, CCBill will submit your application to VISA on your behalf. VISA generally takes between 7-21 business days upon receipt of the application and fee to process your registration information and provide CCBill with their decision.


    Quote Originally Posted by Staples View Post
    Thanks guys! This is all very thoughtful and interesting insight. I personally had zero luck with c4s. I May try again but I wasn't happy with my experience there.

    I will be building the site myself and have no intention of working with a webmaster. I have the skills needed to so that.

    Also I am under the impression I can use a payment processor like CCBill or something like that. My boyfriend did this for his fetish art. It certainly didn't cost him $500 or $700 or whatever.

    I market myself on a daily basis. I'm not expecting to be an overnight success or anything crazy like that. I definitely intend to focus more on video but photos are an enjoyable thing for me to do that I won't stop doing entirely.

    Thanks again ladies! Keep your experiences coming, I would love to hear from more of you.

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    Interesting I wonder why my boyfriend didn't have to do that with his site.
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    And keep at it. Get up, put on your make up, and sign on. With every second you're online comes the possibility of your next big spender. A customer could show up who will spend enough to make up for all the bad days and then some. You just have to be around for him and working multiple sites increases the chances of him finding you.


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    Ok I just asked him, he didn't have a merchan account. He used CCBill but they did all the payment processing and took a percentage of each transaction to cover the costs.
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    And keep at it. Get up, put on your make up, and sign on. With every second you're online comes the possibility of your next big spender. A customer could show up who will spend enough to make up for all the bad days and then some. You just have to be around for him and working multiple sites increases the chances of him finding you.


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    this might be off-topic and I apologize in advance if I'm overstepping...

    I notice in your posts you reference your fetish material not selling well on two sites that are pretty fetish-friendly (in the case of c4s, overwhelmingly so). Could it be that you just haven't found the right fetish niche for you yet? I ask cuz there's some fetishes I'd love to pursure further but I just can't seem to make decent money (ie: worth the effort) in them, whereas other niches are pretty effortless.

    Before you go to the expense and (considerable) time of building and marketing your own site, make sure you're producing content that will sell. Maybe try different niches, or experiement with different ways of creating content within the niches you currently occupy? C4S is a great training ground for figuring out what will sell and what won't, as is Southern Charms to a perhaps slightly lesser extent. If your fetish content doesn't sell on those sites you might want to re-evaluate your niche/style strategy before jumping into a huge project like a solo fetish site.

    I run a sucessful solo site (not Sam-level of success but I'm really happy with what I've achieved) and running/promoting really is a full time job in and of itself. Personally I'd never expend that sort of time or energy on a product that didn't already have a proven track record of sales.

    Re: credit card fees. Perhaps your bf's fetish art wasn't deemed 'adult/high risk' by CCBill? Mainstream merchants don't have to pay the 'high risk' cc fees.

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    Until I got into the adult world I didn't associate the word fetish with some of the things that are actually considered fetishes. SC is big on things like jeans, smoking, stockings, gloves, that sort of thing.

    C4S seems big on things like pee and gagging and stuff that doesn't appeal to me.

    When I say fetish art I am referring to intricate bondage sets, corsets, leather, submissives, BDSM, and that sort of thing My biggest fetish art is bondage and bondage furniture. I've seen that on C4S and uploaded a bunch there but never moved anything. My fans on SM love my bondage stuff. I guess I'm trying to find out if anyone has integrated with SM and had their fans sign up. Because my SM fans are mostly there for my BDSM shows it stands to reason they would want to see more of my BDSM content.
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    Oh and just FYI he said his site was deemed adult so I don't know what he was doing differently. I'll find out when I start exploring.

    Also, I don't have another job so believe me I have the time and effort to put into this. Just want to make sure it will at least be semi worth it. For me it's about finding a way to do the porn I enjoy instead of the traditional girl next door or dorm room amateur stuff that people expect out of me because I'm a blonde and I'm a "nice girl". Honestly if I can get my camming to continue growing like it is then I will do it and make the porn I want to make whether anyone is buying it or not. For me the fetish stuff is more creative expression than business opportunity BUT, if I can make it both then why the hell not?
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    And keep at it. Get up, put on your make up, and sign on. With every second you're online comes the possibility of your next big spender. A customer could show up who will spend enough to make up for all the bad days and then some. You just have to be around for him and working multiple sites increases the chances of him finding you.


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    Well, I have a c4s store & I make money on it without pissing or gagging. Find that statement insulting to the many performers on that sites that do make money.

    Maybe you are just not shooting it in a way that converts into sales. Maybe you aren't marketing the c4s or southern-charms in a way that get you sales. Seems like you are depending on those sites to bring in the traffic just like you do streamate. If you can't provide your own converting traffic then a solo site will FAIL.

    I love blowing bubbles, been doing it since I was a kid & used to win bubble blowing contest. I did it as a lark, putting up bubble blowing clips on c4s, sold like crazy. Several months down the road I got Maria Moore kiddingly cussing me out on twitter due to all the bubble gum blowing video request she is getting. haha
    So clips4sale isn't all about pissing & gagging.

    Whether it be c4s, SC or SM each site is different & brings in a different kind of client. It is your job to adapt & do well on each one, to master it as a performer. Not by trying to do your own thing & say they fail cause you didn't make money.

    I expanded my brand & fan base greatly with c4s & doing fetish stuff I've never done before. I have fun with it & thus make money. I did study the site, who was making money, studied here before I did it. Just like I had to adapt & change my camming for MFC to make money on it rather than just do the same things I did to get to the top of SM.

    To be successful in any business is the ability to adapt, especially with the web. If SC is all about gloves & hand jobs, then I would have all kinds of gloves to do them with. If Blue jeans are the thing on SC then guess what? I would be doing the best blue jean content they ever saw. Then once you built success you work on your thing & building up a converting traffic for it.

    To pish posh off other sites cause you couldn't make money off of them I dont get. Have plenty of friends on SC that make $1000 to $2000 a month off of that site.

    When I read about the pics sets, I had to wonder is this girl stuck in the 1990s way of doing porn. Cause that business model went out favor in the year 2000. Yes, it is easier & more fun just to do pics, but it isn't the way to success. Pics have there place, but they don't bring in sales.

    You come to the old age adage of art over commerce. This is commerce, plain & simple, you do commerce sometimes so that you have the money to do your art. If you want to do art for the sake of a good time & it is what you like then don't count on making money for it. Pay site are almost an extinct business model on today's world. VOD sites are where the future lies. Now, I have been good at predicting the next trend for years, it is how I stay on top & ahead. When you do ART finding others who are into it & willing to shell out money for it is a different animal.

    There is much money laid out to run a site even if it is for art. Personally, I don't like putting money into a project if it doesn't have a return. Name me one big bsdm art site on the web? Kink is a matter of fucking, not art. Kink is about commerce not ART. Sometimes you have to look at the market & realize that boring b/g some old crap simply is just what the men with money want.

    I can personally tell you anytime I do something artsy on my site it doesn't sell.

    There are so many factors that go into making a pay site that pays for itself that it isnt funny. Best to find success on c4s, sc and others to see what sells, what works, if you can bring in your own traffic & such.

    I don't know who your bf is or care, what i do care about is being called a liar. I didn't make the fee up for Visa. Thanks to Jane Burgess for backing me up.
    Be warned if your site gets over a certain amount of chargebacks then it will be shut down, ccbilling is in this business to make money, they are all about commerce & not art.

    Good Luck,
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    First of all Sam I deeply apologize if I offended you with my take on C4S. I realize that there are hundreds of fetishes and plenty of people making money at them. Also I in no way was calling you a liar I was simply explaining that when my boyfriend launched his site he did it in a different method than you were telling me. Believe me, I've met and had the pleasure of shooting with some of the incredible charms that are making $2,000 on SC. They are what gives me hope that I can get there too. I think the point I am trying to ask about is a point you made quite well. I need to be willing to make my art and not have people pay for it. It sounds like the general consensus is not to go the solo site route for that.

    I do know that my videos are consistently making top sales lists on SC since I started makin them. They simply aren't the kinky BDSM things I "want" to be doing most. I had an AMAZING night on SM last night. I think camming is going to be what pays the bills which is great news because then I don't have to care whether or not my art makes money it will just be an added bonus if it does.

    Also, I market like crazy so I'm brining in "some" of my own traffic. I've gained countless members thanks to my twitter and tumblr presence. I haven't quite figured out how to make Facebook work for me but I'm also working the forums.

    Anyway, I sincerely apologize for offending you. It's not something I did intentionally and it has made me very sad that you think I'm being offensive or calling you a liar. However, I take offense when someone insinuates that I'm just sitting on my ass waiting for traffic. I work my ass off for every sale I get. I'm not as good as you yet but hey I've only been doing this for six months so I'm kind of proud of myself for how far I've come. I know some girls on SC who have been at this for years and don't have as many updates or sales as me. I'm the ONLY charm that updates my site 5 days a week. Anyway, I appreciate everyone's insight. I plan to delve into C4S again and see what I was doing wrong previously and maybe take another stab at it. Or I may take a stab at a solo site because it's something I haven't tried. Either way I will document my progress. Have a lovely weekend everyone and once again sorry for any toes I may have stepped on.
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    And keep at it. Get up, put on your make up, and sign on. With every second you're online comes the possibility of your next big spender. A customer could show up who will spend enough to make up for all the bad days and then some. You just have to be around for him and working multiple sites increases the chances of him finding you.


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    I have a free site.. it just leads ppl to sites I am on.
    I use twitter for marketing and that is all free pics I send out. That is the only social marketing I do. I do ads as well prob every few months.

    #1 reason is I do not want to deal with billing

    Im not on SC but I am C4S.

    I have been on c4s maybe a 1.5 years.. I make bank. I have not uploaded since the end of Sept.Everyday I get hits and sales. I have the content. I just don't feel like doing anything right with it right now.
    (I have been focusing on my main gig which is camming)

    I tried working with so called webmasters and I was screwed every time.
    My free site def needs a upgrade but like I tell my customers.. I'm a camgirl first.
    They can buy individual video clips from c4s or they can request customs for A LOT more $$ than what I charge on c4s for clips I upload.

    I keep my fan club up on SM .. its not hard to do and I have a decent following. I may only get 35% but I know SM is not going to fuck me over.

    When I was being screwed over someone said to me exactly what SAM mentioned , paysites are dying off. People want vids. When I stopped worrying about a pay site and focusing on clips , fan club and my main gig of a camgirl. I am happy.

    This is just my little personal journey with a personal website.

    My personal is free but it takes them to all my pay sites which are my cams, clips etc and I do not have to deal with billing

    You don't need a pay site to be successful. Marketing is where success mainly comes from.

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    I too have been considering a membership site. Currently the way I do it is to have multiple websites selling my content giving the customer access to unique downloads. The url changes every 24 hours. And each website is based on a different niche. It's a lot of work, but it works. Recently I've considered consolidating my catalog of fetish clips and etc to one membership site. The trouble I foresee is getting a guy who is into vanilla stuff to get down with hardcore fetishes. Cuz I cater to them all, but under different personas. It would be easier if I could combine the two and less work for me. As for the guys not wanting picture sets and it being a dated practice...that's not entirely true. Older men are still around and have more disposable income than some of their younger counterparts. That cannot be ignored. I myself forgot how selling picture sets can be a wonderful addition to my monthly income. So now I'm back on that tip. But of course like others said you have to know your audience and where to market to. Ever look around at some phone sex sites where the pso is using content from the 80's with big hair? That's because those guys are still around and she's making sales off of nostalgia.

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    Fetish sites are the hardest solo sites to have. You are offering a niche that super sites like Kink.com cover and do damn well at. I've shot tons of fetish over the years for fetish companies and the clients are picky, picky and picky. Not a thread loose in your pantyhose, perfect make-up, expensive lingerie, flexibility body wise, etc. It's a tough field to do well in.

    I'm actually turning my site into a fetish site, but I shot a lot of fetish content first and did a ton of research. It's much more than latex and leather outfits.

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    So you can have a fan club on SM? I have one on CB but I didn't know SM had one too! Is it something you have to ask for?

    Thank you tempting model that's some great insight. May I ask how much content you have on C4S? I think my issue was I didn't have enough when I first started.
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    I think C4S is one of those site that you have to update frequently to make a lot of money. Like I said before, I am not very well known (I have been camming for almost 3 years now, but haven't put myself out there), and I find that I have to update with my vanilla stuff (like fuck/blowjob/solo vids) to make people buy other kinds of videos. I was ranked Top 20 in the smoking category, but have never pulled in more than $150 in a month. Often times I don't make the minimum payout. Honestly, I think part of the reason I don't really pull in money is that I price my smoking videos (typically less than 5 minutes long) for only $4.99-$6.99. It's VERY low considering I make around $3 a video after Clips takes their cut. I should probably fix that!

    If you enjoy making smoking videos, I suggest you set the camera up every time you want to have a smoke and record it. I have repeat customers on C4S that I have never talked to that buy ANY and ALL of my smoking videos - no matter what price. I don't talk during them, I just sit there, have a smoke and occasionally blow smoke at the camera.

    If you do decide to make a website, keep in mind that a niche will be your best bet for making money. I have several categories on mine, but I think the couple category is what people really want (I cam as a couple). Every month my most downloaded videos are the couple videos.

    Seriously. Take a look at Zombaio. I feel like a lot of people pick CCBill because it's what they see on other websites. It's super expensive! It does offer a few cooler services like VOD, but that would require a website that's a bit more complicated. I was actually put off by a website, because $1200+ just to accept payments is way out of my price range. I wouldn't have turned much of a profit at all had I signed up for CCBill. :\

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    It's very difficult to answer this questions, because it's depends on so many factors.

    I own a lot of solo sites, and this is my job for over 10 years.
    It was a very easy money a few years back, but not anymore.
    From my own experience i can tell that it's not only about marketing, it's just...some girls can make thousands, and other can't.

    It's depends on the look, on how you know your niche/how well you play/how creative and more.

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    ah, and you must pay fee , besides the %.
    From now on it's also a MC fee...grrr, it was only visa before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justsometwat View Post
    I think C4S is one of those site that you have to update frequently to make a lot of money. Like I said before, I am not very well known (I have been camming for almost 3 years now, but haven't put myself out there), and I find that I have to update with my vanilla stuff (like fuck/blowjob/solo vids) to make people buy other kinds of videos. I was ranked Top 20 in the smoking category, but have never pulled in more than $150 in a month. Often times I don't make the minimum payout. Honestly, I think part of the reason I don't really pull in money is that I price my smoking videos (typically less than 5 minutes long) for only $4.99-$6.99. It's VERY low considering I make around $3 a video after Clips takes their cut. I should probably fix that!

    If you enjoy making smoking videos, I suggest you set the camera up every time you want to have a smoke and record it. I have repeat customers on C4S that I have never talked to that buy ANY and ALL of my smoking videos - no matter what price. I don't talk during them, I just sit there, have a smoke and occasionally blow smoke at the camera.

    If you do decide to make a website, keep in mind that a niche will be your best bet for making money. I have several categories on mine, but I think the couple category is what people really want (I cam as a couple). Every month my most downloaded videos are the couple videos.

    Seriously. Take a look at Zombaio. I feel like a lot of people pick CCBill because it's what they see on other websites. It's super expensive! It does offer a few cooler services like VOD, but that would require a website that's a bit more complicated. I was actually put off by a website, because $1200+ just to accept payments is way out of my price range. I wouldn't have turned much of a profit at all had I signed up for CCBill. :\
    I will definitely check out Zombaio! Smoking isn't really my thing and I'm not a regular smoker but I do know my smoking photo sets on SC sell like fucking crazy lol. Like I said I really want to market myself as the submissive little slut and do bondage porn. I'll get there!
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