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    I don't hate men. I did go through a period where I felt like that after breaking up with my ex/daughter's father. He was the worst of any man I've ever met. Sometimes this type of work makes me feel like I dislike men when I deal with the freeloaders who sit in my chat room for an hour a day making demands but never tipping, the asshats at the club where I used to strip who would pay the $25 vip room fee and expect me to give them sex, cheap clients who shorted me money, the physically abusive client who showed up for a body rub but decided to make me his personal punching bag instead, and the jerk who I went to high school with who unsuccessfully tried to blackmail me into giving him free lapdances and sex, the fake sugar daddy who talked about how he was going to support me financially because he didn't want me to be a stripper any more and seemed to think that sending me $40 a week via Paypal would be enough for me to survive on. I realize that not all men are bad and I don't hate all men, just the ones who are assholes.
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    Maybe, its as simple as moving somewhere else. NYC is just a rough place to live if you are gorgeous, but, want to be left alone.

    In the South, you may find men with better manners and civility. I'm not saying you won't get noticed, and, I am not saying you won't find creeps here too. But, as a general rule, there is greater respect and manners.

    Strip clubs are a different story though, because, high contact is the norm here.
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    ^ I agree with you about the South. Southern men are my favorite, too bad I'm stuck in the midwest.
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    Astute observation, and, the problem is broader than gender wars. The election of Trump as president reflects how miserable, frustrated, disoriented, resentful and angry a large segment of American working class white men are.

    No offense to anyone on this forum and all present parties are excepted from this comment.... It is a tough time to be an American working class white man. Before, people with silly foreign names used to work for you. But now, they either took your job away, or you are working for them. As if global trade (i.e., cheap foreign labor) was not a menace enough, advances in technology is making possible robotic beings with artificial intelligence that are a hundred times faster than you and infinitely smarter. Even if Trump could bring back all the manufacturing jobs that went abroad, don't count on getting back your $25/hr low-skill manufacturing job. Those glory days of powerful unions are over. Robots cost less, and they don't unionize. Before, no matter how shitty and insignificant you felt outside your home, you could always rely on your girlfriend or wife to make you feel like a lord and master at home. She was subordinate and looked up to you with some measure of admiration, no matter how much of a loser you actually were. But now, she's your equal, and she can see you the same way other people see you. And, you feel threatened by her surpassing you in education, training and/or earning. Everything you thought you knew about your unique status and privileges as an American white man is being shredded to pieces... and you are pissed!

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    Absolutely brilliant comment! You just summed up everything that I have thought about but have had trouble putting into words. It seems to me a lot of men are getting madder and madder the more independent and sure of themselves women are. Hell, even other women are blaming other women. Literally made me sick to my stomach, but a female relative actually said "life used to be so much easier before women's rights stirred the pot." Even my mom has blamed women for dead-beat dads that don't stick around. "Well if they would stop putting out so easy there would not be so many issues." I am not trying to be a victim, but I am SICK and FUCKING TIRED of every little thing being blamed on us. Kids don't turn out right? Woman's fault. Divorce? Woman's fault. "The decline of the nuclear family?" Women's issues caused that. And then you have the poor, poor men who get friend-zoned by us evil wimmin. Like SuperJa said, because maybe we are terrified of retaliation if we turn you down?

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    I have to mention there are classes of men in North America who still have it good- some blue collar workers & "cowboy" types.

    The problem with young men is they have been abandoned to video games and recreational drugs. There are potheads on XBox who would love to go camping or learn some valuable work skills if given the chance. The Rat Race has really thrown a lot of young people under the bus. Teach a young guy to change oil, do brakes on a car, or how to survive in the woods. You'll be doing him a priceless favor.

    & To be perfectly honest the standard American views that produced disadvantaged kids are STILL too popular ("having babies is always the right thing to do whether you're ready or not/ respect your parents even if they're deadbeat morons/believe everything your read in the paper, etc".....) You can barely expect adults to raise kids right if the parental figures in a household are BARELY affording their mortgage payment or BARELY able to put food on the table. Kids start learning pessimism and desperation at home. & Social programs sometimes barely make a dent in decades of bad parenting that produces loser kids.
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    I think a lot of women in the sex industry feel this way. Men treated me like an object before I started camming. A doll that doesn't have feelings. I guess that's what lead me to do adult work in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WendiStarr View Post
    I don't hate men. I did go through a period where I felt like that after breaking up with my ex/daughter's father. He was the worst of any man I've ever met. Sometimes this type of work makes me feel like I dislike men when I deal with the freeloaders who sit in my chat room for an hour a day making demands but never tipping, the asshats at the club where I used to strip who would pay the $25 vip room fee and expect me to give them sex, cheap clients who shorted me money, the physically abusive client who showed up for a body rub but decided to make me his personal punching bag instead, and the jerk who I went to high school with who unsuccessfully tried to blackmail me into giving him free lapdances and sex, the fake sugar daddy who talked about how he was going to support me financially because he didn't want me to be a stripper any more and seemed to think that sending me $40 a week via Paypal would be enough for me to survive on. I realize that not all men are bad and I don't hate all men, just the ones who are assholes.
    I think it might help if you look at the men you HAVE to deal with at work, strip club, camming, sugar daddy...etc.....separately from "men" in general. With that particular group of men, you will find an inordinate amount of assholes and douchebags. You just have to expect a certain amount of unpleasantness because its your job to entertain these assholes. Every job has its downside, you can expect to deal with it at work and then be pleasantly surprised when you get to dance for an actual man, and not a douche.

    Then you have the men you CHOOSE to deal with in your personal life........and refuse to accept ANY douchebag and asshole behavior. If you no longer tolerate assholes in your personal life, it might make dealing with the garbage that strip club customers are as a whole, easier

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemiwinks31 View Post
    I think it might help if you look at the men you HAVE to deal with at work, strip club, camming, sugar daddy...etc.....separately from "men" in general. With that particular group of men, you will find an inordinate amount of assholes and douchebags. You just have to expect a certain amount of unpleasantness because its your job to entertain these assholes. Every job has its downside, you can expect to deal with it at work and then be pleasantly surprised when you get to dance for an actual man, and not a douche.

    Then you have the men you CHOOSE to deal with in your personal life........and refuse to accept ANY douchebag and asshole behavior. If you no longer tolerate assholes in your personal life, it might make dealing with the garbage that strip club customers are as a whole, easier
    We shouldn't expect asshole behavior as a given among customers either, just because we're getting paid. The shitbags tend to be the stingy ones anyway and the more we show them that rudeness = no service, the more they get their shit together if they want service.


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    The thing I hate about men is a lot of them are so desensitized because of horribly produced porn (not the good porn but the garbage porn) and Tinder and bro culture that many of them lack respect for women and some of them don't know how to support women because they have out of this world caveman like egos.
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