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    i already have an account but when i went on before it was only for like 15 min and i got the email about going on and locking in ur rate so i didnt know if that was because i wasnt logged in long enuf or something like the system doesnt have it in that i ever went live yet or it was sent out in a mass email but i went on earlier for like an hour then logged off
    I didn't see anything about a time limit to lock it in but just to be on the safe side do a private or two, I saw they have like a "gold show", do a show. If its a glitch in the system that's not counting your time you can always dispute that if they owe you money.
    Great you have an account so you can answer my question, are you allowed to block state/counties? Can we opt out of the promo? I was reading the model contract and it sounds like we have to choice in the matter, if we wish to work there that is.
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    I didn't see anything about a time limit to lock it in but just to be on the safe side do a private or two, I saw they have like a "gold show", do a show. If its a glitch in the system that's not counting your time you can always dispute that if they owe you money.
    Great you have an account so you can answer my question, are you allowed to block state/counties? Can we opt out of the promo? I was reading the model contract and it sounds like we have to choice in the matter, if we wish to work there that is.
    i have to go into my account and see if we can or not im not one for blocking so i never looked .
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    Quote Originally Posted by apryll11 View Post
    I didn't see anything about a time limit to lock it in but just to be on the safe side do a private or two, I saw they have like a "gold show", do a show. If its a glitch in the system that's not counting your time you can always dispute that if they owe you money.
    Great you have an account so you can answer my question, are you allowed to block state/counties? Can we opt out of the promo? I was reading the model contract and it sounds like we have to choice in the matter, if we wish to work there that is.
    As of now there is no geo-blocking feature. Not sure if they will be adding one or not, since the site is still in beta.
    Also what 'promo' are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassyCara View Post
    As of now there is no geo-blocking feature. Not sure if they will be adding one or not, since the site is still in beta.
    Also what 'promo' are you talking about?
    You know, the site offers to promote you to increase traffic to your room by using your name and (any) image of you royalty free. Usually this involves posting you privates/group shows/gold shows/free chat shows/etc on a tube site where people can view for free.They do other stuff but that whats worries me the most.
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    In case anyone's curious, I did the application yesterday, and it was approved in less than 5 hours. Very painless.

    I've been exploring the site, and it seems like kind of an interesting cross between the structure of SM, but with the "anything goes" feel of MFC. It seems like nudity and everything else is permitted in free chat, and you're allowed to promote your Twitter and wishlists. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I easily could have missed something.)
    There's also a way to hide your show, so you look like you're offline, but then you have a link to give out to anyone so they can see you. I did that this morning so I could look at my feed and make sure I was using the encoder properly. I have no idea if that counts as broadcasting, but it does list it under "last show time," when I look at my profile. Just to be safe, I'm going to do my best to get at least one paid chat before the deadline. Once you've earned $$, it seems undeniable that you've broadcast.

    I don't see any way to geo-block.
    Also, the stuff about using your image seemed pretty standard to me. I think all the major sites have a clause about owning the exclusive copyrights to everything you broadcast forever and ever, amen. That means that all these sites, regardless of geo-blocking, can do anything they like with your image/video/audio/stagename, and you have no say in it ever. Some sites will opt you out of promos if you use geo-blocking, but that's just a courtesy to you, not your legal right. Even when you leave the site, they still own all your footage, and can use it for whatever they want for as long as they want. Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that was my interpretation of all the model agreements I've read.
    I did notice that Kink's model agreement was much more explicit in explaining the concept than other sites (which is good, b/c you're more likely to understand what you're getting yourself into. Of course, their whole site is heavily based on the concept of "informed consent," so that probably helps them be more forthright.)

    I'll come back and update again once I get a chance to use the site a bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical_Hoohah View Post
    In case anyone's curious, I did the application yesterday, and it was approved in less than 5 hours. Very painless.
    Damn. I've been waiting since Friday with no response. I guess they are not going to approve my application.


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    ^They just might need some prodding. I'd send a message to support asking if there were any issues with the application you can resolve. I was sent a recruitment email to sign up with kink but I had to email them to officially approve me.

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    -No, there is no way to opt out of them using your images, but that is pretty standard with a lot of websites only they put it in the fine print!
    -They do typically approve fast, mine was 12 hours I think.
    -You can promote your social media pages and wishlists. In fact one of the kink_help monitors highly suggested that I post both in my show description somewhere. I never really pushed my wish list before and never got any interests until now. The clients there LOVE to get me stuff. Most of which I use in my shows.

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    I thought this was going to be a good site but it's like MFC without the traffic. So many of the performers show tits and pussy for dirt cheap rates. Before you sign up or log in, go on there and read what these people do in free chat for tips or watch them. Since the site is small the client base expects a lot of things in free chat because almost every performer on there does it. The top performers are going full nudity for $20, $10 being their take. It was alright until they brought in Play Sessions which are look Gold shows, once again the shows are pretty low amounts compared to Streamate. I'm not trying to be mean but honestly I'm tired of performers flashing pussy for $10 and ruining sites with their bullshit. If you think your pussy is only worth $5 your take, then you shouldn't be on a cam site period.

    I love you guys, you know that. Just annoyed that cam performers themselves are starting to ruin sites. Fuck, have some standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    I'm not trying to be mean but honestly I'm tired of performers flashing pussy for $10 and ruining sites with their bullshit. If you think your pussy is only worth $5 your take, then you shouldn't be on a cam site period.

    I love you guys, you know that. Just annoyed that cam performers themselves are starting to ruin sites. Fuck, have some standards.
    The Kink Live girls I've looked at seem to be charging 50-100% more for flashes than a model on MFC or Cam4 would - probably a good call, since there's not a lot of competition yet and some of the viewers may be unaware of the typical rates on other sites.

    In my experience, opting out of doing flashes at or a little above the market rate will result in significantly lower earnings overall - assuming you're flashing quickly and keeping it tame enough to prevent the majority of guys from reaching orgasm. I find that I typically get more private and group requests within 10 minutes of a flash than at any other time online. It's basically a standard part of the hustle on sites like MFC, and there's not a lot any individual model can do about that unless she likes the idea of making less money. At this point, nothing short of a change in site rules and the enforcement thereof would change that.






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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    I thought this was going to be a good site but it's like MFC without the traffic. So many of the performers show tits and pussy for dirt cheap rates. Before you sign up or log in, go on there and read what these people do in free chat for tips or watch them. Since the site is small the client base expects a lot of things in free chat because almost every performer on there does it. The top performers are going full nudity for $20, $10 being their take. It was alright until they brought in Play Sessions which are look Gold shows, once again the shows are pretty low amounts compared to Streamate. I'm not trying to be mean but honestly I'm tired of performers flashing pussy for $10 and ruining sites with their bullshit. If you think your pussy is only worth $5 your take, then you shouldn't be on a cam site period.

    I love you guys, you know that. Just annoyed that cam performers themselves are starting to ruin sites. Fuck, have some standards.
    Hmmm, I wonder who you've been watching?!? Most of the models aren't like that. Don't get me wrong there are some, but most of those are the new models or the foreign ones who don't understand. I mean even on SM models show ass and tits for $5 but they only get $1.75! So I see nothing wrong with charging $20, since you get $12. There aren't 'top performers' on this site either. The placement has nothing to do with a camscore or rating! Most of the gold shows I've seen on there have been between $50-$200 goals. Again there are a few models that have really low goals, but it's NO WHERE NEAR the majority of the models! And again, I've seen a LOT more of the cheaper shows on SM. I'd say 90% of the paying members there are willing to pay and pay big. It's a kinky site so most of their requests are specific and they are used to going private. I can make my goal off of 1 private a night usually. But also do about 2 'gold shows' as well. I can count on one hand the amount of shows that I've had to cancel! And mine are no were near cheap!

    I like the smaller kinkier site because I don't have to deal with the sheer amounts of people that big box sites have. Most of which are cheap and are made that way because of the overabundance of models trying to offer more than the next. Not to mention the amount of lurkers and assholes too. Even when they do pay, you get a lot more of the ones who want to record you shows and stuff. With this site I get to do a wide range of different things so I don't get bored, it's easier to keep track of my regs, and I don't deal with NEARLY as much bs! Traffic is slower, but I prefer quality over quantity. If I can have one private and be done, I'll take that! Rather than having to fuck my pussy again and again! You just have to test it out for yourself, every site isn't for every model. Find which one you like the best and stick with it.

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    Umm..how old are you? I'm 46, and I'm on there, lol

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    I totally agree with you. But..this is how things are going with modeling, camming in general. I'm on the extralunchmoney.com thread, and I see chicks who are willing to do like, anal gangbang videos for what amounts to about $10. It's crazy. It's really making it hard for us models who are trying to get fair compensation for our videos--the fans have started to expect free or cheap EVERYTHING

    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    I thought this was going to be a good site but it's like MFC without the traffic. So many of the performers show tits and pussy for dirt cheap rates. Before you sign up or log in, go on there and read what these people do in free chat for tips or watch them. Since the site is small the client base expects a lot of things in free chat because almost every performer on there does it. The top performers are going full nudity for $20, $10 being their take. It was alright until they brought in Play Sessions which are look Gold shows, once again the shows are pretty low amounts compared to Streamate. I'm not trying to be mean but honestly I'm tired of performers flashing pussy for $10 and ruining sites with their bullshit. If you think your pussy is only worth $5 your take, then you shouldn't be on a cam site period.

    I love you guys, you know that. Just annoyed that cam performers themselves are starting to ruin sites. Fuck, have some standards.

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    I got on Kink ages ago, through a model friend of mine's referral, but I have to admit..I'd been shying away from camming in general for several months now. I was doing it a lot, early on in my modeling career, and I think I got a little burned out. It's so hard to always be "on", sitting in those chat rooms, knowing you're not getting paid til someone takes you into a private. Plus, i'd started doing more live fetish sessions, where I make really good money for not a lot of time.

    I noticed, tho, that they're having a promotion if you get on before April 2nd, so I think I'm gonna try the site out this week and see how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    So many of the performers show tits and pussy for dirt cheap rates. Before you sign up or log in, go on there and read what these people do in free chat for tips or watch them. Since the site is small the client base expects a lot of things in free chat because almost every performer on there does it.
    I'm really glad you posted this. Last night I was trying to write my Kink profile, and I was browsing around looking at other girls to see what kind of info they included. I was getting frustrated because it seems like almost all of the ladies have some sort of "tip menu" for public chat, and some of them include pretty much everything. I really hate the "tip menu" concept. (Edit: To be clear, I don't have an opinion on the amount the models are charging. I really didn't pay much attention to their prices. I just generally dislike the idea of doing stuff in public chat for tips.) If it's working well for other ladies, good for them, but I really don't want to do it myself. Plus, the idea of public chat SPH is just confusing to me. Even so, I was considering making a tip menu because it seemed almost mandatory on Kink.

    Then I saw that you were online, so I perved for a minute and took a peek at your profile. I was SOOOO happy to see that you don't have a tip menu, and explicitly state that in your profile! You inspired me to stick to my guns and not do it either, and I just want you to know that you made a difference.
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    I understand boob flash but not pussy flash. There was a chick on there that did a 10 minute pussy to the cam close-up for $10. The cam industry is in the trouble it's in because of company greed and some cam performers doing anything known to man for a buck. It'd a shame a company has to tell performers don't flash your pussy for pennies. That should be common knowledge. Plus MFC, Cam4 and Chaturbate were made so the performers could do shows in free chat, that's how token sites work. The non token sites weren't supposed to be full nudity in free chat, performers are choosing to do that instead of going on sites made for full nudity. If I wanted to be naked in free chat I would go on a token site, I wouldn't do it on Streamate.

    Plus this is a fetish site, it should be about fetish shows.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sabihah View Post
    The Kink Live girls I've looked at seem to be charging 50-100% more for flashes than a model on MFC or Cam4 would - probably a good call, since there's not a lot of competition yet and some of the viewers may be unaware of the typical rates on other sites.

    In my experience, opting out of doing flashes at or a little above the market rate will result in significantly lower earnings overall - assuming you're flashing quickly and keeping it tame enough to prevent the majority of guys from reaching orgasm. I find that I typically get more private and group requests within 10 minutes of a flash than at any other time online. It's basically a standard part of the hustle on sites like MFC, and there's not a lot any individual model can do about that unless she likes the idea of making less money. At this point, nothing short of a change in site rules and the enforcement thereof would change that.
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    Hmmm, I wonder who you've been watching?!? Most of the models aren't like that. Don't get me wrong there are some, but most of those are the new models or the foreign ones who don't understand. .
    Yeah, whenever I perv on kink models (just did it now) they always have significantly more clothes on than any other site lol.

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    I never actually surfed the site until last night. One of the performers I met on here cam on there. She sent me a message and said to go check out this performer. She was doing $10 for 10 minutes of pussy. facing the camera close-up. She wasn't new either, and I saw another performer doing a Pussy Tour for $20 bucks for 5 minutes of close-up cam shots. They do have top performers on there, they list them by their earnings in the newsletters. The problem is there aren't nearly as many performers on there as other sites. So these customers are getting used to cheaper shows and shows done in free chat for low rates. Customers get cheap because performers are willing to cater to their cheapness instead of making them pay up.

    I like Kink, I think it has a ton of potential. I also think as a fetish site they need to crack down on the nudity in free chat and make the site about actual fetishes. They are the only fetish cam site out there and there is a huge market for them to tap into. The real fetish customers aren't going to want to see nudity in free chat, that's not their thing. Fetish people usually pay and pay well for their shows. I went on there for fetish shows and a majority of the clients do want you to fuck your pussy.


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    Hmmm, I wonder who you've been watching?!? Most of the models aren't like that. Don't get me wrong there are some, but most of those are the new models or the foreign ones who don't understand. I mean even on SM models show ass and tits for $5 but they only get $1.75! So I see nothing wrong with charging $20, since you get $12. There aren't 'top performers' on this site either. The placement has nothing to do with a camscore or rating! Most of the gold shows I've seen on there have been between $50-$200 goals. Again there are a few models that have really low goals, but it's NO WHERE NEAR the majority of the models! And again, I've seen a LOT more of the cheaper shows on SM. I'd say 90% of the paying members there are willing to pay and pay big. It's a kinky site so most of their requests are specific and they are used to going private. I can make my goal off of 1 private a night usually. But also do about 2 'gold shows' as well. I can count on one hand the amount of shows that I've had to cancel! And mine are no were near cheap!

    I like the smaller kinkier site because I don't have to deal with the sheer amounts of people that big box sites have. Most of which are cheap and are made that way because of the overabundance of models trying to offer more than the next. Not to mention the amount of lurkers and assholes too. Even when they do pay, you get a lot more of the ones who want to record you shows and stuff. With this site I get to do a wide range of different things so I don't get bored, it's easier to keep track of my regs, and I don't deal with NEARLY as much bs! Traffic is slower, but I prefer quality over quantity. If I can have one private and be done, I'll take that! Rather than having to fuck my pussy again and again! You just have to test it out for yourself, every site isn't for every model. Find which one you like the best and stick with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassyCara View Post
    Hmmm, I wonder who you've been watching?!? Most of the models aren't like that. Don't get me wrong there are some, but most of those are the new models or the foreign ones who don't understand. I mean even on SM models show ass and tits for $5 but they only get $1.75! So I see nothing wrong with charging $20, since you get $12. There aren't 'top performers' on this site either. The placement has nothing to do with a camscore or rating! Most of the gold shows I've seen on there have been between $50-$200 goals. Again there are a few models that have really low goals, but it's NO WHERE NEAR the majority of the models! And again, I've seen a LOT more of the cheaper shows on SM. I'd say 90% of the paying members there are willing to pay and pay big. It's a kinky site so most of their requests are specific and they are used to going private. I can make my goal off of 1 private a night usually. But also do about 2 'gold shows' as well. I can count on one hand the amount of shows that I've had to cancel! And mine are no were near cheap!

    I like the smaller kinkier site because I don't have to deal with the sheer amounts of people that big box sites have. Most of which are cheap and are made that way because of the overabundance of models trying to offer more than the next. Not to mention the amount of lurkers and assholes too. Even when they do pay, you get a lot more of the ones who want to record you shows and stuff. With this site I get to do a wide range of different things so I don't get bored, it's easier to keep track of my regs, and I don't deal with NEARLY as much bs! Traffic is slower, but I prefer quality over quantity. If I can have one private and be done, I'll take that! Rather than having to fuck my pussy again and again! You just have to test it out for yourself, every site isn't for every model. Find which one you like the best and stick with it.
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    Those same performers complaining no one wants to pay are the ones that are doing those cheap video's. They can't seem to figure out you can't complain when you are part of the problem.


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    I totally agree with you. But..this is how things are going with modeling, camming in general. I'm on the extralunchmoney.com thread, and I see chicks who are willing to do like, anal gangbang videos for what amounts to about $10. It's crazy. It's really making it hard for us models who are trying to get fair compensation for our videos--the fans have started to expect free or cheap EVERYTHING

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    I just signed up there, hoping it will be lucrative for strictly fetish shows as I too hate to do more than flash boobs in free chat. Fingers crossed it works out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Damn. I've been waiting since Friday with no response. I guess they are not going to approve my application.

    Are you approved yet? They approved me in the time it took for that previous post I made here until just now (half an hour?), so if you are still waiting I'd send an email to Support to make sure nothing went awry with your information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloemay View Post
    Are you approved yet? They approved me in the time it took for that previous post I made here until just now (half an hour?), so if you are still waiting I'd send an email to Support to make sure nothing went awry with your information.
    Yes they finally did yesterday, but I had to contact them multiple times and point out that I am experienced, have good equipment and fast upload.

    I don't like having to bug a site for an answer. Honestly I'm a bit miffed that they didn't seem to want me there, but I will give it a try I guess.


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    JaneBurgess, and others anti-tokens-MFC-pussy-tour-for-free-camsites haters, lets just all sign-up to Kink, put the premium prices, do the best FETISH shows, no flashes, no freebies, any flavor but Vanilla (nor in free nor in privates!) and we will show those sissies how it should be done! Real Biatches in town!
    My application has been aproved a couple of weeks ago, but I didnt get a chance to go online there yet. Hopefully this weekend! Start to look forward to it. Its been a while I wanted to find 100% fetish site. That's also why it is important to get there now, before tons of vanilla girls followed by vanilla members make it another LJ....
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    Thank you and count me in. I want to do SPH, giantness, Cuckolding, BBC, JOI and all the other fetish stuff that I love. I don't flash on non token sites, never would.


    Quote Originally Posted by wabisophie View Post
    JaneBurgess, and others anti-tokens-MFC-pussy-tour-for-free-camsites haters, lets just all sign-up to Kink, put the premium prices, do the best FETISH shows, no flashes, no freebies, any flavor but Vanilla (nor in free nor in privates!) and we will show those sissies how it should be done! Real Biatches in town!
    My application has been aproved a couple of weeks ago, but I didnt get a chance to go online there yet. Hopefully this weekend! Start to look forward to it. Its been a while I wanted to find 100% fetish site. That's also why it is important to get there now, before tons of vanilla girls followed by vanilla members make it another LJ....

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