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    okay I couldn't get my sound to work on kinky without going through the encoder, not sure what I was doing wrong so heres my cpu usage with 2 encoders, 2 cams on my asus laptop (will update in a min)
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    ^ its kinda hard to read the % on the CPU and the ram what do they say ?
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    ^ its kinda hard to read the % on the CPU and the ram what do they say ?
    Sorry its on the bottom too bigger, cpu was 36% memory 3.3/8.0gb (41%) Speed 3.12 GHz Processes 90 max speed 2.40 GHz Cores 4 logical processors8

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    I got approved on KL but I am not sure where to start. haha. I would do 5.99 min rate... Is it standard or too high on KL? I need to know what is average rate on KL, so I can start from there or start at a bit higher. I am gonna try cam later tonight to lock in the rate.




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    Me too bb! I've been holding off on working there, but I want to lock my rate in and try something other than IML and cam4 (before MFC/Chaturbate take off-cam4 will be practice haha). Hugs and wishing you luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CurvyWinona View Post
    I got approved on KL but I am not sure where to start. haha. I would do 5.99 min rate... Is it standard or too high on KL? I need to know what is average rate on KL, so I can start from there or start at a bit higher. I am gonna try cam later tonight to lock in the rate.
    From what I see the site is full of cheap submissive hosts who do public shows for next to nothing, but today I saw a host at 4.99 group 5.99 private. I think for what is supposed to be a specialized fetish site that is still too low.

    The thing too is, there only seem to be 5 to 7 hosts on at a time so there are not a lot for a guy to choose from. If a guy wants to see you in particular he will likely pay.

    I feel prices there should at least match MFC private/true private at $6 and 8, but maybe that's wishful thinking?


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    I have my prices on kink set a bit lower than my SM prices. The reason for this is guys on Kink generally stay much longer, and I still get my normal cut or more/min because the payout is higher. I tried higher prices but I definitely made less overall when I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlotteslut View Post
    I have my prices on kink set a bit lower than my SM prices. The reason for this is guys on Kink generally stay much longer, and I still get my normal cut or more/min because the payout is higher. I tried higher prices but I definitely made less overall when I did.
    Please don't be offended, not directing this specifically at you, but it kills me how prices seem to be set lower by hosts when we get a higher cut. Pricing to me should reflect what the guy is getting, specialized fetish shows personalized just for him.

    I have the same gripe with indy. It's overall so cheap it kills me.

    With that said, on a low traffic site with cheap guys I guess I might have to lower prices too just to make anything. Dammit!


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    I do not put myself at lower rate just because the site has a higher payout percentage. I just want to set at a rate that is good for making new fans on a new site. AND TO MORE MONEY TO ME! haha




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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Please don't be offended, not directing this specifically at you, but it kills me how prices seem to be set lower by hosts when we get a higher cut. Pricing to me should reflect what the guy is getting, specialized fetish shows personalized just for him.

    I have the same gripe with indy. It's overall so cheap it kills me.

    With that said, on a low traffic site with cheap guys I guess I might have to lower prices too just to make anything. Dammit!
    I've been debating with myself about this, too. If a guy will pay $x.xx to see me do my stuff on SM, why wouldn't he pay the same amount on any other platform (assuming similar broadcast quality)? Plus, most of the content on Kink.com costs $$, so a guy wandering over into KinkLive.com should be used to paying for his porn.

    On the other hand, I wonder if I should charge slightly less on KL than on SM. That way guys will be encouraged to see me on KL, where I will ultimately make more than I would on SM. That might be a little unrealistic, though. I doubt that I would be converting much traffic from SM to KL, so I'd probably be lowering my rates for no reason.

    On the third hand (haha), my AW rates are grotesquely low compared to my SM rates (although I make more per minute). I feel a little silly insisting on charging the same rates for SM and KL, but lowering them for AW. Of course the quality on AW is lower, and I don't do much free chat, and I like the guys so much better than SM, so maybe that's good justification for the lower rates...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassyCara View Post
    When you sign up, your username and model name are separate. When you log in you use your username, and that is the name that show up when you enter a model's room. They will NOT see you model name (unless you're like me and made your username and model name the same!).
    Even when I'm signed in and enter another model's room, it shows me as Anon-###. Have you ever actually seen your username on the listing for a model's room? Maybe because I don't have a cc on file, they show me as Anon? It's not a big deal either way, just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical_Hoohah View Post
    Even when I'm signed in and enter another model's room, it shows me as Anon-###. Have you ever actually seen your username on the listing for a model's room? Maybe because I don't have a cc on file, they show me as Anon? It's not a big deal either way, just curious.
    Yes I believe you have to have a cc on file. (and I'm thankful that is the case!! That way I don't waste my time on guys who can not pay at all).


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    That's all I've seen too. I've also seen tons of full nudity in free chat for $10 tips. I was hoping for an actual fetish site, but I get way more fetish shows on Streamate. I get Vanilla guys on Kink. Sigh



    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    So far the site is netting me 60% of zero. Total waste of my time but going to give it a week and see.

    I am seeing the same thing when I view rooms.
    First one I click on she was doing $5 for 5 minute boob play - seriously? Nice. 60 cents a minute! (and that was what she offered for one $5 tip in free chat, not a group play / gold show type thing).

    I was really hoping it wouldn't end up being a cheap flash site but so far thats all I see.

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    I will assume the kink mods dont give model support or i just had bad one.

    And same experience as Jane. Kinda shitty when I expected something else.

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    There has been a HUGE influx of cheap models signing up on Kink lately. And I've only been signed up for 4 months now. I think its because more models are aware of the 60% rate, and since they just announced they will be changing it. When I signed up there weren't a lot of cheap rates (there were some, but NO WHERE NEAR what its like today). I think that after a while most of those models will burn out on Kink when they don't make what they thought they would.

    Also, it irritates me when I see allllll these models just using Kink to split cam with a shitty stream quality. I think they are just using Kink to split with because of the 60% too. Don't get me wrong splitting is fine, but don't do it at the cost of your stream quality. If you are going to split then make sure your computer can handle it. I don't think its the site that is making the quality bad either. I use the encoder (with the same SM settings) and my stream is clear and smooth. Not sure if you have to use the encoder for good quality or not, but I have seen models that don't use it and have great streams. I get the occasional issues just like any site does, but nothing more than a quick refresh fix.

    I debated on what my rates should be. When I started the average rates where higher than SM, they have dropped dramatically since then. At first I made mine about $1 lower than SM and promoted the fuck out of the fact that it was cheaper for my clients to go there. I had my main regs follow me there, which was great! I figured, they are lower rates which will attract more clients and benefit my current clients, and I still make MORE per min than I would on SM. Win-win! But after a few weeks I raised my rates to about the same/a little bit more than my SM rates. The paying clients on Kink are willing to PAY and usually do MUCH longer shows on a regular basis. So now I make more than double what I was making on SM per min.

    And yes, you do have to have a CC on file for your username to show up. LOVE that feature!

    The kink_live support don't usually talk unless they have to, and sometimes not even then. I think they are monitoring multiple rooms at a time, so they may not be paying attention right then. There is one of them that is AWESOME and helped me out my first few days by giving suggestions and telling me to post my twitter and wishlist in my description. He/she is usually monitoring in the early evenings (I'm on EST). The rest don't say anything unless the model is breaking the rules or someone is having serious tech issues.

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    Im not using a split software. I am also not using the encoder. I will try that. My stream looks like crap imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    Im not using a split software. I am also not using the encoder. I will try that. My stream looks like crap imo
    I don't think I've seen your stream. And I'm not a techy person at all, I just know what works for me lol! It took a lot of playing around to find what works best for my set up (computer, internet connection, monitor set up, etc.)

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    Every performer on Kink has shitty feeds in my opinion. It has to be their site because even with Encoder the feeds still look kinda bad. Iff you compare the feeds to other cam sites, it's pretty bad. I mentioned it to Martin so I hope they can figure it out.



    Quote Originally Posted by ClassyCara View Post
    There has been a HUGE influx of cheap models signing up on Kink lately. And I've only been signed up for 4 months now. I think its because more models are aware of the 60% rate, and since they just announced they will be changing it. When I signed up there weren't a lot of cheap rates (there were some, but NO WHERE NEAR what its like today). I think that after a while most of those models will burn out on Kink when they don't make what they thought they would.

    Also, it irritates me when I see allllll these models just using Kink to split cam with a shitty stream quality. I think they are just using Kink to split with because of the 60% too. Don't get me wrong splitting is fine, but don't do it at the cost of your stream quality. If you are going to split then make sure your computer can handle it. I don't think its the site that is making the quality bad either. I use the encoder (with the same SM settings) and my stream is clear and smooth. Not sure if you have to use the encoder for good quality or not, but I have seen models that don't use it and have great streams. I get the occasional issues just like any site does, but nothing more than a quick refresh fix.

    I debated on what my rates should be. When I started the average rates where higher than SM, they have dropped dramatically since then. At first I made mine about $1 lower than SM and promoted the fuck out of the fact that it was cheaper for my clients to go there. I had my main regs follow me there, which was great! I figured, they are lower rates which will attract more clients and benefit my current clients, and I still make MORE per min than I would on SM. Win-win! But after a few weeks I raised my rates to about the same/a little bit more than my SM rates. The paying clients on Kink are willing to PAY and usually do MUCH longer shows on a regular basis. So now I make more than double what I was making on SM per min.

    And yes, you do have to have a CC on file for your username to show up. LOVE that feature!

    The kink_live support don't usually talk unless they have to, and sometimes not even then. I think they are monitoring multiple rooms at a time, so they may not be paying attention right then. There is one of them that is AWESOME and helped me out my first few days by giving suggestions and telling me to post my twitter and wishlist in my description. He/she is usually monitoring in the early evenings (I'm on EST). The rest don't say anything unless the model is breaking the rules or someone is having serious tech issues.

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    very slow? I feel like it is slow. Maybe Im spoiled with SM and Cams running smooth. The feed on kink is what keeps me from using it to split w Cams. I thought it was just me but but every stream I see now glitchy.
    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Every performer on Kink has shitty feeds in my opinion. It has to be their site because even with Encoder the feeds still look kinda bad. Iff you compare the feeds to other cam sites, it's pretty bad. I mentioned it to Martin so I hope they can figure it out.

    ok , ok, OK I shouldve perved this site a bit. Is this a baby version of my home site in the making/beta? Skip the rules and lay it on out there BOOM! pussy in my face profile picture. Nothing is monitored and I think I read Martin didnt want or expect it to be nude in free chat? I am assuming Martin is head honcho of the models?

    I COMPLETELY believe Martin and anyone else will tell us there is a ocean in the dessert if we just cam there. Owners should be able to take charge hence kinkadminNOTHELPFUL sitting in our rooms.
    Rules... There are none sign your W9 or dont get paid, I did see this rule. lol

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    Ok now I semi understand everything

    Completely understand how tattoos and piercings got drug into this. Its a subculture fetish not a fetish. I am asked the opposite question of what Jane is asked. I am asked for whips and chains just bc I have tattoos and piercings. People clearly do not understand. I get it now that I have read the whole thread.

    Im still lost about how to handle kink.

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    If you figure it out let me know. If you are nice to them they don't talk, if you are mean they don' talk and if you ignore them they bitch. It's a confusing site.


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    Ok now I semi understand everything

    Completely understand how tattoos and piercings got drug into this. Its a subculture fetish not a fetish. I am asked the opposite question of what Jane is asked. I am asked for whips and chains just bc I have tattoos and piercings. People clearly do not understand. I get it now that I have read the whole thread.

    Im still lost about how to handle kink.

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    I figured out why i have made 10.00 one shift and 2.00 the other. I dont have a long extensive menu for free chat.

    I had a guy enter paid last night. He ended show. Comes in free , tells me he is from France and wants to serve me. Go back in paid right? Noooo he wants to serve me in free bc his connection is bad. I logged off.
    I was trying to keep a good attitude.
    Are these gys charged instantly?
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    If you figure it out let me know. If you are nice to them they don't talk, if you are mean they don' talk and if you ignore them they bitch. It's a confusing site.

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    Yes, once they enter a paid session they are charged. Free chat is the issue I have with that site. The performers do so much shit in free chat there really isn't a need for private shows. Like I said, they are killing that site with the free shows and cheap rates. Now they will say it isn't free but when two guys tip you for a show in free chat and twenty watch, you are doing a free show for 18 people.


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    I figured out why i have made 10.00 one shift and 2.00 the other. I dont have a long extensive menu for free chat.

    I had a guy enter paid last night. He ended show. Comes in free , tells me he is from France and wants to serve me. Go back in paid right? Noooo he wants to serve me in free bc his connection is bad. I logged off.
    I was trying to keep a good attitude.
    Are these gys charged instantly?
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    Exactly what I was referring to. as far as the free chat.
    Just to fit in lol I put pussy flash 200.00 bc they will not pay and if they do they can have a fast flash. Keep the privates private kwim?
    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Yes, once they enter a paid session they are charged. Free chat is the issue I have with that site. The performer do so much shit in free chat there really isn't a need for private shows. Like I said, they are killing that site with the free shows and cheap rates. Now they will say it isn't free but when two guys tip you for a show in free chat and twenty watch, you are doing a free show for 18 people.
    I saw in one models profile about offline tips? I dont see this

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    [shrug] I had a different experience. I was on today for only an hour and a half made about $18 in tributes and then made another $41 in 2 privates one being my first foot fetish private. So...I dunno. I'm getting a nice mix of both which is kind of how I like it =)
    I think it went well being my second time broadcasting and both broadcasts only lasting about an hour [I'm a firm believer that the first hour anywhere is usually going to be shit so the fact that it wasn't is pretty hopeful for me]
    I just make my tribute menu pricey even for flashes. I have mostly a menu of fetish related acts [ like show feet, wear boots/heels/sneakers, put on a ball gag] and find they're turning out well also. I also adverise changing up my menu every time I get on to explore other fetishes and perhaps lure in privates based on the kind of tributes I accept.
    I think this site will be good and has loads of potential. But it's not going to be the privates and group chat only site a lot of you ladies are hoping for.
    All we can REALLY hope for is that the kink isn't entirely lost!

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