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    They all suck. Customers that don't tip girls making a serious effort and dancers that don't tip DJs playing their music and talking them up have no class whatsoever.

    Sadly, from my experience, the rap girls are the worst--with some notable exceptions. And I don't mean black girls. I mean girls of whatever race that will dance to nothing but fucking rap.

    What I like most of all is when one of these idiots actually starts yelling at the DJ because the guys aren't tipping her--like I am suppose to care? There is a fundamental breakdown in logic going on.

    They also tend to be illiterate. And they never tip the bartenders or waitresses either, every fucking time.

    Thank all the gods for the fantastic men and women who actually Get It...

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    Oh and English men and women are almost as bad as the hardcore rap fans. It's a cultural thing I guess. They just aren't raised to tip. But at least the English pay their waitresses and bartenders a decent wage. Unless someone form England wants to correct me on that score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    What I like most of all is when one of these idiots actually starts yelling at the DJ because the guys aren't tipping her--like I am suppose to care? There is a fundamental breakdown in logic going on. And they never tip the bartenders or waitresses either, every fucking time.
    Lol. I have seen girls like this, who go and complain to the housemom that no one is tipping/they aren't making money, but then complain to other girls in the DR about having to tip people out while using the housemom's stuff and the mom is right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    Oh and English men and women are almost as bad as the hardcore rap fans. It's a cultural thing I guess. They just aren't raised to tip. But at least the English pay their waitresses and bartenders a decent wage. Unless someone form England wants to correct me on that score.
    You are right...when I first started dancing in the UK I was always tipping the staff at the end of the shift and they didnt understand why, after a while I just stopped bc I wasnt given any sort of perks or help back from them...you are right, its a cultural thing. And yes, they get paid a normal wage, I dont know if its decent though but more than minimum wage at least I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sansonnet View Post
    Lol. I have seen girls like this, who go and complain to the housemom that no one is tipping/they aren't making money, but then complain to other girls in the DR about having to tip people out while using the housemom's stuff and the mom is right there.


    Exactly!

    Seriously, how can they be so fucking dense? It all boils down to a lack of empathy I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cairalis View Post
    You are right...when I first started dancing in the UK I was always tipping the staff at the end of the shift and they didnt understand why, after a while I just stopped bc I wasnt given any sort of perks or help back from them...you are right, its a cultural thing. And yes, they get paid a normal wage, I dont know if its decent though but more than minimum wage at least I believe.
    No one tips in English restaurants or bars either, right?

    I have worked with some great English dancers though! It's the empathy thing. The smart/cool ones figure it out.
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    Sometimes we get an English navy ship here in Key West. I always make a fuss over them because the English Navy ruled the waves for a few hundred years, and I am serious naval history fan. But the motherfuckers never tip the girls, even when I explain on the mic how US stripclubs work. Probably them being drunk as hell has something to do with it.
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    ^I do well with the English. Could be that my grandma was born there and grew up in Australia as well as my mom. I fake a good accent as well. I find they do rooms with me ( I don't care if they tip me as you know I usually do my best to avoid stage). Also yes their servers etc get like 12.00 an hour or something like that but I find if you explain to them that we don't their more than happy to tip. Most anyways.

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    ^ I also find Europeans worse. I just worked a soccer game( bosnia vs argentina ) and they were cheap fucks( just wanting sex). Germans, Austrians, Russians , sadly same thing. At least the English are more prudish so they respect what we do...

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    i've had good luck with english men too! i find the english, american, canadian to be the most respectful of women by far and in comparison to others they know how to tip on stage and after dances. sometimes i feel stripping is making me racist cuz whenever i go with an indian, iranian, libyan, italian, man to get a dance i inwardly cringe and brace myself.
    but a lot of guys are cheap, you will always find bad apples everywhere you go
    wow @ girls who yell at the DJ..they are just taking their anger out on you instead of the guys

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    My paternal grandmother was British and I too have always done well with British men because I know their lifestyle, etc. Yes that is true it is uncommon to tip in England because they are paid decently.

    That rap comment reminds me of a comment a DJ I worked with years ago said. He said he could tell what a girl tipped by what she danced to. I tried to tip well and mostly danced to alternative and classic rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    Oh and English men and women are almost as bad as the hardcore rap fans. It's a cultural thing I guess.
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    ^ I also find Europeans worse. I just worked a soccer game( bosnia vs argentina ) and they were cheap fucks( just wanting sex). Germans, Austrians, Russians , sadly same thing. At least the English are more prudish so they respect what we do...
    Well that explains a lot. I remember one night a bunch of foreign sailors came in and I didn't talk to them, I generally stay away from guys who look like they don't speak much English. And ditto on the bad experiences with Europeans. I heard its a culture thing too in other parts of Europe, that basically some strip clubs also double as brothels and basically they just go pick a girl they want for the evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    sometimes i feel stripping is making me racist cuz whenever i go with an indian, iranian, libyan, italian, man to get a dance i inwardly cringe and brace myself.
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    ^What Simone said. Omg how did I miss that? I do the same exact thing. I try to reserve them for last if there isn't anyone else to talk to!

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    Interesting to hear of these different experiences. Most make sense, if a somewhat perverse sense in some cases.

    Eastern European dancers tend to tip best of all.
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    I've noticed Eastern Euro dancers are great hustlers. They probably understand that tipping well usually leads to club hookups.

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    It's only logical, tip the guy who might be able to help you out in the future, and you will make more money in the long run.

    I've only met one Eastern Euro girl that I can recall was really cheap, and even she at least tipped 5$ regularly. Now she will tip 10$ if she does well, but she has worked with me a lot over the years here in Key West.

    This club is a 'No Mandatory Tipping' club, which can be a challenge with the ignorant dancers, but I made a shitload of money when I worked here up until 6 years ago when I went to another one; and most of the girls are tipping very well now that they have worked with me a few months.

    And not ALL rap girls are cheap. A couple of weeks ago, one of them had gone home and realized she didn't tip me. She drove all the way back to the club and gave me a 20!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyLace View Post
    Irony alert! I'm a British dancer and I do really well with .. (Drum roll).. American customers. I've always found them so much more generous than English men . By the way, American girls who have to deal with British men - I'm sorry. We try to train them to tip. We really do. But somehow they just don't get it. Most English people don't mind spending as long as they know what they're buying, but asking them for a tip just leaves them puzzled - why should they pay more than what it costs? I think they figure if we needed a tip to top up our earnings, we'd just price the service higher.
    For American dancers looking to increase their earnings, learning to speak with a British accent will help. I have a friend who can speak with a British accent. She said some nights she would speak to customers in a British accent and her earnings went way up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    i've had good luck with english men too! i find the english, american, canadian to be the most respectful of women by far and in comparison to others they know how to tip on stage and after dances. sometimes i feel stripping is making me racist cuz whenever i go with an indian, iranian, libyan, italian, man to get a dance i inwardly cringe and brace myself.
    but a lot of guys are cheap, you will always find bad apples everywhere you go
    wow @ girls who yell at the DJ..they are just taking their anger out on you instead of the guys
    I don't know about Italian men but the others I have dealt with and I really hated to for the most part. I had nothing but problems with Muslim and Indian men. Sounds racist and I'm sure there are wonderful men of those groups but I didn't encounter them. I also had problems with non English speaking Mexican men, they always thought I was a whore and would ask me how much. I remember one time a group of German tourists came in and they were kind of rude too (though some tipped well). The biggest tippers I ever encountered at a club was these two Texas oilmen. They didn't buy dances but every time a dancer came on stage they tipped $50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    It's only logical, tip the guy who might be able to help you out in the future, and you will make more money in the long run.

    I've only met one Eastern Euro girl that I can recall was really cheap, and even she at least tipped 5$ regularly. Now she will tip 10$ if she does well, but she has worked with me a lot over the years here in Key West.

    This club is a 'No Mandatory Tipping' club, which can be a challenge with the ignorant dancers, but I made a shitload of money when I worked here up until 6 years ago when I went to another one; and most of the girls are tipping very well now that they have worked with me a few months.

    And not ALL rap girls are cheap. A couple of weeks ago, one of them had gone home and realized she didn't tip me. She drove all the way back to the club and gave me a 20!
    Lol. 10 bucks. I always tipped 30-40 when I worked at Garter if I was skipped and helped out because as you know no I don't need a D.J. to make money, so it's true. Hell even if I was mad I had to go up the lowest I tipped is 20. I'm use to tipping DJS 40-100 any ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    For American dancers looking to increase their earnings, learning to speak with a British accent will help. I have a friend who can speak with a British accent. She said some nights she would speak to customers in a British accent and her earnings went way up.
    Like the U.S. all English accents sound different and they can tell if they're fake. I do well because my aussie accent is on par and they think oooh someone from oz how exotic. I never say I'm English they want something different than they can get at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    Lol. 10 bucks. I always tipped 30-40 when I worked at Garter if I was skipped and helped out because as you know no I don't need a D.J. to make money, so it's true. Hell even if I was mad I had to go up the lowest I tipped is 20. I'm use to tipping DJS 40-100 any ways.
    Oh yeah 10$ is nothing to brag about. But considering she tipped 5 only for the first year or so, way back when I moved here, I thought doubling it was a kind of victory.

    They are all coming around to the right way of thinking, except 3-4 rap girls. Considering they don't have to tip at all and a lot of them didn't a few months ago when I started, I am pretty happy with it.
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    Just a tidbit...

    I usually over-tip the dj. Why? Because you guys work hard, and due to my brain problem, I need my lights to be a certain way (or I get blinded, dizzy, and all fucked up). Plus, I like a certain few genres of music that I like to stick to and usually the dj is into the same kind of music, so he gets extra cash and bonding moments from me, then I get special treatment.

    Last night I worked at a new club. I did not over-tip this dj.
    "What kind of music do you like?"
    Grunge, Alternative, Industrial etc.
    "What is grunge?"
    *me with eyes wide open*

    Also, he had really nasty smelling food in the booth and I had to stand there and get all my stuff ready for the audition barely being able to breathe over his stinky food (and breath!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    No one tips in English restaurants or bars either, right?
    Well usually the tip is added to the bill as service charge.

    Of course if you want, you can tip more. But restaurant and bar workers are supposed to give good service in their job description anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsepmet1 View Post
    Just a tidbit...

    I usually over-tip the dj. Why? Because you guys work hard, and due to my brain problem, I need my lights to be a certain way (or I get blinded, dizzy, and all fucked up). Plus, I like a certain few genres of music that I like to stick to and usually the dj is into the same kind of music, so he gets extra cash and bonding moments from me, then I get special treatment.

    Last night I worked at a new club. I did not over-tip this dj.
    "What kind of music do you like?"
    Grunge, Alternative, Industrial etc.
    "What is grunge?"
    *me with eyes wide open*

    Also, he had really nasty smelling food in the booth and I had to stand there and get all my stuff ready for the audition barely being able to breathe over his stinky food (and breath!).
    Ha I am paranoid about bad breath--I will never order onions in whatever food I get, and I keep a bottle of mouthwash in the booth and use it 3-4 times a night.
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