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    Default Re: Why dont many escorts like seeing black/asian men?Pure racism or justified prefer

    Quote Originally Posted by RosesForMyLove View Post
    I can only speak for myself but the reason I do not see Black men is because there have to been way to many brushes with danger when it comes to them. Plus a lot of the black men that call act like they do not know the difference between a massage and an escort service. They are very cheap and can be very rude which is why I tend to stick to my main demographic which is older (35 +) white men and foreigners from various European countries such as Italy ,France, UK, Portugal, etc. And it’s not just Black men but Hispanic men, Indian men, and Middle Eastern men as well who can be very aggressive but I can usually handle those clowns and put them in their place. I do see Asians as well and they tend to be very respectful and generous but again that is just my experience.

    Besides it is called a preference because just like these jackass men that have preferences ie. I want a tall, blonde, etc I can have preferences too and sooo sorry if men don't like it but it goes both ways. Like in personal life I also have a preference for White and European men.
    Screening prevents providers from seeing bad clients. Also, bad clients can be wealthy and white too, just for the record.

    As for preferences, you only find European men attractive? Do you only see clients you find attractive? And if so, how do you do that exactly?
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    Yes screening does help but sometimes you have to rule out certain people who you know or feel are going to be problems and of course white, wealthy can be assholes as well but that is who I have had the most luck with (although I have run into some bad experience with white clients as well) they are my target audience.

    And it is impossible for me to see only clients I find attractive because most clients where I live are just not that attractive and neither are most of the men with money around here. I don't care about looks as much as I care about their wallet.

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    I crack up everytime I see this question asked. Mostly on Naughty Reviews. The guys there throw a fit whenever a thread about race get's started. In my personal opinion older black men are preferred. But that's just about any race. Screen the hell out of them. Pay attention to the way they type in emails. How do they speak on the phone? This helps you avoid the foolishness. Also I have a Providers United group if any of the contributing members of this forum would like to join. Send me a PM. Be safe ladies

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    This is very interesting from a phone sex perspective. I can change my voice from white teen to South American tranny. I speak spanish fluently and have a versatile voice. As an Ebony I get very few black callers. The ones I do get are for the most part respectful and have a good time. But that same caller might call me on my teen line and get completely out of hand. White callers will contact me on my white teen line will want me to use racial slurs when talking about interracial sex. That same white caller will hit me up on my latina or ebony line and behave themselves perfectly. They become more submissive. LMAO They have no idea that they're speaking to the same person. Gotta love phone sex!

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    I can answer this Nubienne...although I am not a escort but as a pso I try not pick black men or latin men even though I date them in real life. My best customers are white and wealthy men who know what they want. Second are Asian men of taste and leisure who have dark fantasies. I would say that I had tons of problems with latinos and black men when they do not get what they want. When I work for companies such as USlove.com; Black and Latino men would complain about my voice, my character's appearance, and even the fantasy they pick. The black men are openly brutal and harsh to me or they call my supervisor when I do not perform for their liking. The Latinos are just nasty when I use even one wrong word in Spanish to the point where I can not even offer Spanish services on USLove.com no more. That service was for the Spaniards who love my Spanish fantasies. Yet when someone from Mexico calls....I just do not want to speak Spanish to them. On Niteflirt, black men have been opening racist to my Asian character because I asked them to pay for her panties that they requested. The Latinos are very cruel to my Indian character when they call. Yet, I would say that I also try not to have Middle Eastern men call me either because they act quite stupid on the phone with me but they give big tips. However, I would say you want to avoid Germans,Russians,and Polish men if you provide voice services on Second Life because they are cheap and stupid. My point is that in my personal life...I do not mind dating a Latino or black man but I do not want them as customers as a PSO. Now I have one black customer for black character on Niteflirt but I speak papimento to him and it is okay because I am fluent in that language. But my point is there are some men on earth you want to avoid as adult provider. My experience might be different from other peoples but I want to avoid Latinos, Black men, and Middle Eastern Men as pso. Also I want to avoid Germans, Russians, and Polish men on Second Life as voice escort because they are cheap and act very stupid when I speak them. I hope this helps No, I am not a racist by the way....I am just stating the facts of this industry.

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    I'm not an escort but dancer and I can't say I don't like dancing for black or asian men but I DO prefer dancing for attractive middle aged white men and sexy couples because this is where I do well and make most money.

    In real life I interact and respect all races so naturally I approach all customers no matter what race because even though there are cultural/racial negative generalizations, i like to stay open-minded because I'm pleasantly surprised when I'm proven wrong which causes me to challenge my beliefs sometimes. This is unlike my counterparts who never approach customers based on race alone and are pretty much set in their ways. But hey if it keeps them content and 'safe' more power to them.

    I do think its okay to be more selective in this industry. Even if we're doing something politically incorrect = judging and generalizing based on race/ethnicity.

    Would I do this if I was selling shoes or steaks, no. But selling my time, my services, my expertise is valuable so I hold on tighter to my generalizations with people here.

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    I would like to add one last thing about being a pso and chatlines:

    Even though, when I work as a pso...I try to avoid black and latin men...when I work the chatlines and pretend to be like Ebony college student or Latina girl next door...I do not have problems with the black and latino men. I believe this is because working the chatlines is usually more lower-end...so black and latino young men tend to be more respectful than when I work my other characters. However, chatlines are where you make 10-20 cent per min but you can chat with guys for hours on end. It is pretty great for a slow day to work on.

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    I want to start out by saying I see all clients who screen right. Height, Age, Race - it's all good.
    But it's not racism when escorts choose not to see a certain ethnicity. Our pussies are not a McDonald drive through, thankyouverymuch. We have a right to decide what clients we want to see without being called racist. The escorts here were honest - and I have heard it too regarding black men. And just because I have not dealt with it does not mean it does not exist.

    And guess what? It's none of my business why some providers don't deal with certain black/asian/short/tall/young/old people.

    And I also do phone, and with all due respect, it's a whole different animal than escorting.

    With that said, I find this topic insulting. A provider who chooses not to see black or asain clients now have to defend themselves or prove they are not racist? Just wow.
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    In phone and camming, there is zero physical contact and you can always end the call if necessary. In person, not so easy. A sensible, smart escort would try and minimize the risks, is totally and completely normal, just because she is an escort, does not mean everyone has the right to meet her. Yes, money is always money, but that is not the same as selling vegetables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivvie View Post
    With that said, I find this topic insulting. A provider who chooses not to see black or asain clients now have to defend themselves or prove they are not racist? Just wow.
    The definition of racism (from free dictionary): "2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race."

    Discriminating based on race is racism. It is the very definition of the word.

    Like every word in the English language, the word "racism" has an objective meaning that is not up for debate. Arguing with the dictionary? Just wow.

    But now I'm curious, what do people who believe that racial discrimination is not racism believe the word actually means?

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    To HATE someone based off the color of their skin is racism. I've experienced it numerous times.

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    Vivvie I don't think people here is trying to be negative just real and honest.

    Making negative generalizations about a certain race is in my opinion only racist if you act on it in a negative way like hurting others emotionally or physically because of their race.

    Are the escorts making voicing their negative generalizations based on race - yes
    Are they being racist - not in my opinion (because while provider 'a' is denying them service there are opportunities from providers who cater to any race and the black or Asian client can go elsewhere and won't be harmed mentally or physically)

    This is one of the few industries one can deny service based on racial/ethnic preferences and not have backlash (as long as you're not intentionally going out of your way to make a persons life hell in the process)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexyAleks View Post
    In phone and camming, there is zero physical contact and you can always end the call if necessary. In person, not so easy. A sensible, smart escort would try and minimize the risks, is totally and completely normal, just because she is an escort, does not mean everyone has the right to meet her. Yes, money is always money, but that is not the same as selling vegetables.
    Or you could just avoid the caller if you feel it is a problem Frankly, phone work is different but you can experience same problem with race as an escort. But it least this is my experience it is. But you are right...it is not selling vegetables or fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivvie View Post
    I want to start out by saying I see all clients who screen right. Height, Age, Race - it's all good.
    But it's not racism when escorts choose not to see a certain ethnicity. Our pussies are not a McDonald drive through, thankyouverymuch. We have a right to decide what clients we want to see without being called racist. The escorts here were honest - and I have heard it too regarding black men. And just because I have not dealt with it does not mean it does not exist.

    And guess what? It's none of my business why some providers don't deal with certain black/asian/short/tall/young/old people.

    And I also do phone, and with all due respect, it's a whole different animal than escorting.

    With that said, I find this topic insulting. A provider who chooses not to see black or asain clients now have to defend themselves or prove they are not racist? Just wow.
    You are correct when you are saying that phone is a different animal. However, you can have the same problems when it comes to race as an escort...but again this my experience. But as a woman of color, I do not see anyone on here being racist but showing their preference towards a certain group of men. I believe that I talked about certain groups of men that I had problems with in the past; which included both certain men of color and European men. Plus I also included Second Life as part of my phone work as well But I do not find this topic insulting because the ladies was just giving their opinions and preferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Astra View Post
    The definition of racism (from free dictionary): "2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race."

    Discriminating based on race is racism. It is the very definition of the word.

    Like every word in the English language, the word "racism" has an objective meaning that is not up for debate. Arguing with the dictionary? Just wow.

    But now I'm curious, what do people who believe that racial discrimination is not racism believe the word actually means?
    Ad, I believe you are making a mountain out of a mole hill The sex industry is very broad and there is something for everyone. Great example, phone sex....if I do not take African-American, Latino, or Middle Eastern clients than many other women will take them off my hands. Also men of color do not have to choose me as well and I am fine with that. Preference is different than racial discrimination, my dear. Many providers would not date black or latin men in real life but I would. However, many would take them as clients but I would not. Also there is Second Life, Second Life is a totally different animal than phone sex because you are dealing with everyone in a massive level and men are willing on to spend tons of money on the best voice escorts/cam models on there. I found in my experience that Russian, Germans, and Polish men are willing to spend less, be more flaky, and act stupider on Second Life than other groups of men with me. Some chicks and dudes can have luck with everyone they meet on Second Life but not me Then you have the chatlines, where I would work once a week and I do not have any problems with the black or latin men on there. As a woman of color, I know what racism is and none of the women on here was talking about racism. Sex work is hard enough and preference makes it easy for the escorts, cam models, psos, and other sex workers. But thank you for being so passionate about this discussion

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    Default Re: Why dont many escorts like seeing black/asian men?Pure racism or justified prefer

    People need to boil it down to preferences or nothing at all. If you're going to not offer services to someone, then that's your prerogative but to deny a whole ethic group because of what a "few" have done, you're cutting yourself off financially. ALL black men aren't cheap or "rushing". What you mean to say is that all the black men YOU have come in contact with are that way. I hate to break it to you but there are people who come from the same ethnic backgrounds, who have different incomes and were born and raised differently.

    An African American Male who was born and raised in the ghettos of X is not the same as the African American Male who was born in the suburbs of X or England, or France, visa versa. I know several wealthy black, asian, hispanic, middle eastern, etc men and excluding them all is preference based on race. Just call it how it is. If you personally are not attracted to a certain ethnicity, that's fine too but no escort I've ever known has been attracted to each and every customer she has ever had. Let's not sugar coat it.

    I personally have an issue with certain males because I was sodomized and molested by them so I cannot mentally or physically be with them without being exposed to some serious flashbacks and panic attacks. For this reason alone, if I were an escort, I couldn't have them as clients. Phone sex, cam, of course! But not physically. However, for those of you who refuse to see someone because you stereotype and generalize, that's you're choice, but someone else's paycheck.

    If it were me escorting, I would choose to deal with men who spoke and wrote in proper English, and had the qualifications I need for safety, and financial income. One man shouldn't spoil it, and shouldn't speak for the rest unless some dire circumstances have happened to you. You are in control, not them so if you're attracting ain't shit dudes, that's on you. There are plenty of proper looking white males who will fuck you over, rush you, act cheap, rape, and murder you if they had the chance. Let's not generalize here folks. Target demographics is one thing, but again... you can choose to see who you want, but a pig with lipstick on is still a pig.
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    So OP, to answer your question, I believe most escorts do not wish to see black/asian men because of the "cheap" , pushy, stereotype or "fear" for lack of a better word or possibly their own experiences. But, of course if he was famous, I bet they'd clear their schedule for him. That being said, people can choose to fuck whom they want, so it is what it is.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    This is very interesting from a phone sex perspective. I can change my voice from white teen to South American tranny. I speak spanish fluently and have a versatile voice. As an Ebony I get very few black callers. The ones I do get are for the most part respectful and have a good time. But that same caller might call me on my teen line and get completely out of hand. White callers will contact me on my white teen line will want me to use racial slurs when talking about interracial sex. That same white caller will hit me up on my latina or ebony line and behave themselves perfectly. They become more submissive. LMAO They have no idea that they're speaking to the same person. Gotta love phone sex!
    I'm with you 100% on this. I never run into issues with phone sex callers as myself, or as my characters. The black callers I've gotten (or, the white men pretending to be a black caller) have been not only respectful, but usually spend the most money at once. I have this cokeheaded black caller who "deals" and always spends 2-3 hours on the phone with me each time he calls at $1.99pm. He's called my listing and another one of my characters who is white and still spends and acts the same. You are right on about them changing up on you depending on the character that's for sure.




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    I'm from the U.S. and spent some time working at a brothel and have also escorted for a while. For whatever reason, I've actually found every single black client I've ever seen to be really respectful and a great client(I have one right now that doesn't realize he's pretty much fully supporting me), but I don't have too much experience with them and from what I've heard think that might be a rarity. I have a lot of experience with Asians and for the most part have had great experiences with them also except with a couple cases. I'm also the really young bubbly blonde who seems way too sweet and innocent to most my clients so I think that might stop some from being disrespectful just because they'd feel like horrible people but IDK. My absolute worst experiences have been with men born in the Middle East or raised with the culture still ingrained in them in America, so much so that I've only had a couple good experience and have at time actively avoided them and almost thought about not seeing them as clients but decided against it because the couple who were good were really really sweet and I would hate to have turned them away for that. I also used to actively avoid Mexican construction workers that would come in when I was tired just because their max to spend was normally $200(if they REALLY liked you) and always wanted the works. I've always seen anyone who has made an effort to show me respect and now that I'm escorting and not working in a brothel, I'll see anyone who can pass screening but just from my own experiences and experiences of close friends, I can definitely see how some would turn entire races away. In this business, it's normal to want to take away as much risk of having a bad day as you can.

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    I actually have the best sessions with Asians. They end up being my regulars, and for whatever reason, I tend to have the best rapport with them.

    I don't ask the caller's race, but I've only had 2 black guys call and see me. 1 of them was a straight up scammer (and the only scammer I encountered while doing body rubs), the other one just wouldn't let me leave when my time was up. I basically had to lie and say I was going to use the restroom, and then run out the door.

    But 2 is not a valid sample size for me to judge by. And I don't ever seem to attract black guys anyway, so there's no point in me stating a preference even if I had one.

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    I don't see them for many of the same reasons. I also tend to not see eastern europeans because as soon as they know I was born in Russia the same thing happens.

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    Default Re: Why dont many escorts like seeing black/asian men?Pure racism or justified prefer

    In the past I've had a strict no African American male policy because I was badly burned by a black male in my early days as an escort. Also many pimps will try and prey on escorts by setting up false appointments and trying to lure you in. Unfortunately the stereotype and most of the pimps I've encountered have been black.

    I have been trying lately to rid myself of this policy. I feel like if I strictly screen I can avoid any dangerous situations. Since when I dance I have had African American regulars that said they were mostly African or Jamaican not American.

    I do however see Asian men. The majority of my clientele would fall under Asian or White men.

    I do however have a dislike for seeing Latin men even though I'm part Hispanic. I'm not attracted to them in any way but have never had any serious problems so I don't feel it necessary to have a no Hispanic men policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    An African American Male who was born and raised in the ghettos of X is not the same as the African American Male who was born in the suburbs of X or England, or France, visa versa.
    If a black man was born in England or France, he's not an African *American*.

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    How many black men that are born in the U.K. do you think are going to book with us and be wonderful repeat clients? I think the chances are slim to none. I take that back it will depend on where you live but seeing as I am in Ohio my chances are slim to damn none. If you live somewhere that is has tourist hot spots and you are easy to access than sure but the majority or girl may have to deal with local men. It boils down to your location and the mans location but if you are not around a big metro area than you are going to get whats around and that may be more black men than you prefer.

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    As far as I can tell, I am the first man (African American) man to reply to this thread. However I have not read all of the posts because the hurt that I feel when I see it in ads is now compounded because I'm hearing the reasons. In fact the only reason I even found this site was because I Google'd the question. I will start by saying that I understand the reasons most of you are giving as to why you prefer not to have black clients. But more then "racist", more then "Bad experiences" is what's really going on is STEREOTYPING.
    "Violent". "Don't pay". "Pimps in disguise". "Hard work because of the big cock". And my favorite that made me laugh...."fucking nonstop until the session time ends".
    I get it. But we are not all like that. And the simple fact that I am on here commenting should speak volumes about how much I don't fall into any of these categories. (Except the big dick. Lol)
    But I also want to call out those of you who say you also don't prefer Latino or middle eastern men because The sites that I have been looking at recently (since I'm due for a vacation soon) only specify NO BLACK MEN. No other race is stated. And now I may be guilty of doing a little stereotyping of my own but 95% of the women that exclude us usually have very light blonde hair, voluptuous bodies and barbie doll faces. Help me understand that one.
    It's really a shame because I am educated. Handsome. Generous. Sweet. Funny. And very good in bed. I will sum it up by saying I once had an encounter with a white woman and when we were done, she enjoyed herself so much that she gave me half of my money back and said she felt like she should have paid me.
    How many of you have had that type of experience with ANY man regardless of color?
    For whatever it's worth, Know that it hurts just like being told 50 years ago that you can't eat in a restaurant because of the color of your skin. It hurts those of us who appreciate you and the service you provide and want to experience and pay for just as a white man would. What is the harm of not stating this is your ad and simply asking upon making a potential booking?
    Ok. Now that I got that off my chest I will get back to searching for a companion for a few hours of MUTUAL enjoyment.
    Be well ladies. Be safe. And be open minded.
    Last edited by harlemdude; 12-06-2014 at 01:26 PM. Reason: typo

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