Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: Yes, this is a stupid question

  1. #1
    Member
    Joined
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    40
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts

    Default Yes, this is a stupid question

    I'm sorry for being so naive. I understand my question is annoying and hopefully not insulting.

    I've been using the search tools, doing research, etc. but unfortunately I can't find the answer to a question that's sooo basic.

    I know most if not all cam girls do nude shows, toy shows, masturbation and beyond....I can't do any of this stuff online, in the cloud (it's a boyfriend thing)...

    Can a hot girl w/ a personality make money camming by doing non-nude dancing/stripping, sexy chatting etc. and literally never get fully nude/masturbate/toy play?

  2. #2
    Featured Member Tsepmet1's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2012
    Location
    Fantasy Land
    Posts
    1,432
    Thanks
    1,138
    Thanked 2,844 Times in 878 Posts
    My Mood
    Fine

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    If you can hit a fetish market, then probably.

  3. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tsepmet1 For This Useful Post:


  4. #3
    God/dess audritwo's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2013
    Location
    10.0.0.1
    Posts
    4,582
    Thanks
    5,702
    Thanked 19,566 Times in 3,647 Posts
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    Hustle your butt on MFC
    Also if you boyfriend is not 100% supportive, it is usually not a good idea to start camming





    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Red View Post
    Audritwo's asshole sees all, knows all. Spurs on armies of orcs. Casts fear into the dwindling races of Middle-Earth. Fears hobbits.


  5. #4
    Senior Member
    Joined
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Texas, US
    Posts
    114
    Thanks
    1,324
    Thanked 187 Times in 64 Posts

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    There are a few non nude top girls on MFC right now. I just think it may take a while to build up a fan base and start making good money.

  6. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Thespark88 For This Useful Post:


  7. #5
    Banned
    Joined
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Aboard The Spaceship
    Posts
    4,787
    Thanks
    3,183
    Thanked 10,142 Times in 3,290 Posts
    My Mood
    Breezy

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    I don't masturbate in my shows, but I never really get asked for that anyway because I have built up regulars that don't want that. Most of those type of cam girls start of doing almost everything, and slowly weed things out as time goes on, when their niche and customer base becomes really clear. Your best best is to try MyFreeCams IMO if you want to be non-nude.

    For reference, there used to be 2 sites (they are practically dead now) called OnHerCam and CamWithHer, and now 100% of those girls have moved to MyFreeCams and do hardcore toy shows. They used to just be non-nude, but the market for that is pretty much gone IMO unless you get lucky. I still get nude, but then I also enjoy it.

  8. #6
    Veteran Member Jade62013's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2013
    Location
    The Interwebs
    Posts
    211
    Thanks
    515
    Thanked 1,231 Times in 159 Posts
    My Mood
    Aggressive

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    Yes, it is possible, but it WILL take a long time to start making consistent, good money, and it will be HARD work. Seriously though, it depends on your look, your personality, your sales skills, your ability to hustle, but doesn't everything? But my honest answer is: it's possible in the way that EVERYTHING is possible, but I really wouldn't count on it. Camming is hard work no matter what you do...this topic has been addressed in other threads...but 99% of cam models do hardcore/masturbation shows fully nude, and we still struggle at times. You would probably have to be VERY adept at fetish/domme work to make this work, and that's even harder in my opinion than just doing nude masturbation shows. Everyone is saying yes, because it IS possible, but top non-nude girls put 6000% into everything they do, you need to be prepared to do the same, and just know it's gonna be the hardest road ever, and a TON of people are gonna try and pressure you into nude/masturbation shows because it IS the norm. Ask yourself why YOU want to cam, and whether YOU dont want to get nude/masturbate, or it's just your boyfriend saying no. Because unless your boyfriend is paying your bills, I don't think he should have any say over how you support yourself. Obviously, though, it's more complicated than that, and I don't know all the facts. But I don't wanna sugarcoat it for you sweetie. We get this question a lot. The answer is: Yes it's possible, because everything is possible. But really, it's very very very unlikely.
    Last edited by Jade62013; 12-04-2013 at 08:17 PM.

  9. The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Jade62013 For This Useful Post:


  10. #7
    Featured Member chloemay's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2013
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    904
    Thanks
    2,756
    Thanked 1,552 Times in 562 Posts

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    In my experience, yes you can make $$ non-nude. More than a part-time income, I don't know. I do know, that the non-nude shows that I do usually are very face oriented (possibly not that great of an option depending on you and your plans) and involve jack-off instruction, usually somewhat harsh, small penis humiliation, racial content and numerous other topics that are not as sweet and innocent as the term 'non-nude' may lead one to believe.

    I recall a girl who did very well on MFC by being the sweet, sexy, non-nude girl next door. You might be the next one, but be prepared to field a lot of requests that can blow your socks off if you only have strip club experience. (I was a career dancer, East Coast, now primarily independent cam woman)

    PinkGeisha: "NOTHING IMPRESSES A CAMMODEL MORE THAN A GUY THAT LETS HIS MONEY DO THE TALKING"


  11. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to chloemay For This Useful Post:


  12. #8
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    1,691
    Thanks
    6,086
    Thanked 6,359 Times in 1,400 Posts

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    Quote Originally Posted by chloemay View Post
    I do know, that the non-nude shows that I do usually are very face oriented (possibly not that great of an option depending on you and your plans) and involve jack-off instruction, usually somewhat harsh, small penis humiliation, racial content and numerous other topics that are not as sweet and innocent as the term 'non-nude' may lead one to believe.
    This is very true. I don't work MFC/token sites so it may be different on there but speaking from someone who works pvt-based sites my non-nude shows actually tend to be a lot more intimate than the wham-bam vanilla masturbation shows. Even if guys aren't seeing you naked, you'll likely be seeing them naked. You'll be bringing them to orgasm (or rather helping them) and you'll actually be thinking about them and interacting with them on a much more involved level than if you just strip down, go doggy and fake it for the camera. Not sure if this makes sense but what chloemay said really resonated with me so I wanted to expand on it. I have no experience with strictly non-nude camming and have no idea if you'll be working the fetish angle but this might be something to keep in mind.

  13. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Procrasturbator For This Useful Post:


  14. #9
    Senior Member LittleLolaRose's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2013
    Location
    The Best Coast!
    Posts
    101
    Thanks
    221
    Thanked 238 Times in 68 Posts
    My Mood
    Sleepy

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    I'd really recommend joining the AmberCutie forums and getting verified there. They have great info about the pros and cons of being a non-nude model.

    (Mods, let me know if promoting other forums isn't allowed and I'll delete this. I love SW best!)

  15. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to LittleLolaRose For This Useful Post:


  16. #10
    Featured Member Rina's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    1,197
    Thanks
    2,262
    Thanked 3,149 Times in 892 Posts

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    Yes, but I suggest you learn your fetishes and learn to make clips
    "You want to fuck with eagles you have to learn to fly"- Heathers
    Quote Originally Posted by Graceface View Post
    ho ho ho ho merry banmas!!!!

  17. #11
    God/dess SweetJulia's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Rolling in a BIG pile of money!
    Posts
    2,836
    Thanks
    21,633
    Thanked 6,196 Times in 1,978 Posts
    My Mood
    Yeehaw

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    Op, how much money did you have in mind? Cuz knowing that would sort of help me come up with an answer.
    Twitter:
    Cam profile: *Fave me, it's good for my ego
    General Pics:
    "Experience is a brutal teacher, but you learn. My God, do you learn!"-C.S. Lewis
    Quote Originally Posted by xStacey View Post
    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

  18. #12
    Veteran Member Camigirl's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    600
    Thanks
    655
    Thanked 1,179 Times in 403 Posts
    My Mood
    Sleepy

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    Quote Originally Posted by pantsonfire! View Post
    I'm sorry for being so naive. I understand my question is annoying and hopefully not insulting.

    I've been using the search tools, doing research, etc. but unfortunately I can't find the answer to a question that's sooo basic.

    I know most if not all cam girls do nude shows, toy shows, masturbation and beyond....I can't do any of this stuff online, in the cloud (it's a boyfriend thing)...

    Can a hot girl w/ a personality make money camming by doing non-nude dancing/stripping, sexy chatting etc. and literally never get fully nude/masturbate/toy play?
    Yes you can! There is a woman on Chaturbate right now who I have watched do sexy dance and NO nudity ever. She probably only makes about $50 a day and is on and off 5 days a week that I noticed. She seems very happy with that!
    She dresses in club clothes and will only show bra and panties. I love her!

    Also, I sure hope this is not promoting either, I hate this site.. Livejasmin. In the hotflirt category you can not be nude or suggest nudity at all! Super strict. There is a friend of mine who BANKS! She is always number 1 to 3 on the first page when working. All you have to do is look at her price and then her privates, time them.
    She pulls in 1,000 bi-weekly, NO lie, working a few hours an evening/day and no weekends. I love her too of course.

    I sure hope I helped I gave no names, just sites and tying to show this can be done! And yes... MFC is good for this too, I agree.
    And: There are no stupid questions!
    Last edited by Camigirl; 12-05-2013 at 09:15 AM. Reason: Forgot proper wording

  19. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Camigirl For This Useful Post:


  20. #13
    Senior Member justme23's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2012
    Location
    France
    Posts
    150
    Thanks
    51
    Thanked 124 Times in 63 Posts
    My Mood
    Angelic

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    I recommend you to try the LiveJasmin.com non nude category, and there you can do lots of money too. Just take a look on the site



  21. The Following User Says Thank You to justme23 For This Useful Post:


  22. #14
    God/dess laurielegs's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2010
    Location
    USA, northeast
    Posts
    7,317
    Thanks
    30,600
    Thanked 17,688 Times in 5,185 Posts

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    Quote Originally Posted by Camigirl View Post
    Also, I sure hope this is not promoting either, I hate this site.. Livejasmin. In the hotflirt category you can not be nude or suggest nudity at all! Super strict. There is a friend of mine who BANKS! She is always number 1 to 3 on the first page when working. All you have to do is look at her price and then her privates, time them.
    She pulls in 1,000 bi-weekly, NO lie, working a few hours an evening/day and no weekends. I love her too of course.

    I guess if you don't need to support yourself that might work, but 1000 biweekly is only 500 a week. How is that banking?

    I couldn't live on such a tiny paycheck.


  23. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to laurielegs For This Useful Post:


  24. #15
    Veteran Member Tbean's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2012
    Posts
    203
    Thanks
    162
    Thanked 248 Times in 94 Posts
    My Mood
    Doh

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    I'd give almost anything to have $500 per week considered banking lol $500 a day is banking for me, and I only bank when I work 24 hours...which is impossible to do consistently of course, considering I need sleep lol really wish I didn't need sleep. As with anything, the more time you put into it, the more you will make. I don't know any non nude models but I've heard of many who tried and ended up going nude because trying to survive doing non nude was just too hard, but it is possible since everything is I hope you do well no matter what you end up doing. What is your boyfriends problem with you going nude? Is it just that he feels like he would be "sharing" you? Would he consider doing couples camming with you? My bf will not :/ soooo wish he would because I actually get a lot of requests for it.
    I'm on Twitter, follow me I'll follow you!




    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyslilHeaven View Post
    If I get upset, I just think about bubbles then go blow some...nothing makes me happier than watching beautiful, innocently fragile spheres float through the air then die. LOL!

  25. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tbean For This Useful Post:


  26. #16
    God/dess Blovely's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    2,358
    Thanks
    20,318
    Thanked 6,330 Times in 1,820 Posts

    Default Re: Yes, this is a stupid question

    ****Long Read***

    Not a stupid question, this question literally gets asked all the time. I did nude and masturbation/toy toys shows for about 4-5 years. I transitioned to nude only then topless only on Streamate and Cams.com. Now 99% of the time I do non-nude fetish/tease shows on both sites. I haven't used toys or done masturbation in like a year and a half. My change had nothing to do with outside influences. Like Jade62013 said I would ask yourself "why YOU want to cam, and whether YOU dont want to get nude/masturbate, or it's just your boyfriend saying no". I always wanted to do tease shows but again like Jade said nude, masturbation, and toy shows were the norm. I wasn't aware of fetish back then. I thought vanilla shows were the only way to make money on camsites and as a online adult entertainer in general. That isn't to say that I crossed my boundaries because I didn't...vanilla shows never bothered me. I only stopped doing them because I finally figured out how to make money outside of doing vanilla shows.

    I'm comfortable with nudity so I still get topless or nude but I require a certain amount of gold/tip in exclusive or private(on Cams). I don't really advertise this though. Since seeing me nude is so high I rarely ever get nude. Like a few times a month or even once every 1-2 months I'll get a customer who's willing to pay the price to see me topless, bottomless, or fully nude.

    I have it on my profile and in my room topic that I'm non-nude and don't do toy/sex shows. That doesn't stop guys from asking "what toys do you have, can I see your toys, do you squirt, do you do anal, etc". Nor does that stop guys from jumping into private and then rating me a 1-3 when I tell them that I don't get nude or use toys. These guys don't read for shit. I think every camgirl has to deal with these types of dudes. I use to straight up tell guys that I don't do vanilla shows when they jumped into private without reading but I don't anymore. I just drag out the show for as long as I can now. I can't be bothered nor do I care anymore to tell these guys about my show when its clearly written in my first impression, in my room topic, and on my profile. Even when some of them do read they will try an talk you into doing things that you don't do.

    Guys will make a stink about being non-nude on sex sites. Alot of these guys don't realize or understand that not every guy needs pussy, nudity, or insertion to get off. I've had guys say "you aren't going to make any money, you'd make more money if you got nude, you'd make more money if you did toy shows, you know your on a sex site right, good luck with being non-nude". I even had a guy come into my room saying "you're still sitting here, you haven't gotten a private in a while" (basically implying that no one wanted my services and that I wasn't making any money. Little did he know that top girls who do toys shows were sitting in freechat just as long as I was that day). When guys say stuff like this I just ignore them and silently laugh to myself. Mainly because:

    1) I already did N, M, and T shows. So I'm fully aware of what makes me money.

    2) The amount of money that I made doing N, M, and T shows is the same amount that I make now, sometimes I make more. I do less work and make the same amount as when I did more work. So ummmm no I wouldn't make more if I did vanilla shows. Now if I did fetish/domination, nudity, masturbation, and toy shows then yeah I'd probably make alot more. But that isn't my goal. I never talk about $$ when I'm streaming but for some reason some of these dudes act like you asked for their advice.

    3) I see right through these guys. They aren't really as concerned as they make themselves appear to be. They're just bothered by the fact that I don't offer what they want. They are the peanut gallery...if I was doing T and M shows they'd complain that I didn't do anal or that I didn't use a big enough toy, etc.

    Some of these guys will even ask "do you make any money doing this?" (as in being non-nude). I'm just like "I wouldn't be sitting here on this site if I wasn't" or "Why else would I be here?". Guys that make all of these types of comments is the exact reason why I don't blatantly advertise that I get nude for gold. I know exactly what would happen if I did. They'd try to haggle me in freechat. Or they'd tip the amount in freechat go exclusive and expect me or rush me to strip in 30 seconds. They probably wouldn't ask questions before tipping so they'd probably expect me to do extra shit. Then when I state that the gold was only to see my tits or get my panties off they'd most likely rate me a 1.

    So, yes you can make money as a non-nude camgirl but like others said its going to be tough. I think it's going to be even tougher if you aren't planning on doing fetish. I think that I was able to make non-nude work for me because I tapped into niches i.e......fetish, domination, ebony goddess, sensual domination/teasing, and big booty/booty shaking. "non-nude dancing/stripping, sexy chatting" might work on MFC and Chaturbate but I think it'd be pretty hard to do on SM.

    These guys will definitely try you. In the beginning of my transition there were a few times where I wavered because I allowed guys to pressure me. You already have to be confident in order to be a vanilla camgirl but I feel like you have to be extra confident in order to be a non-nude one. Even after I built up my confidence to where I didn't buckle it still took me months to get my(this) hustle down. It wasn't easy at all nor did it happen over night. Over all I'd say that it took me about 5-6 years to be a non-nude camgirl.
    Last edited by Blovely; 12-06-2013 at 10:42 PM. Reason: grammar

  27. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Blovely For This Useful Post:


  28. #17

  29. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Blovely For This Useful Post:


Similar Threads

  1. Sorry if this is a stupid question
    By _Avery_ in forum Industry Insight
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 11-05-2010, 07:39 AM
  2. this may be a stupid question...
    By britt244 in forum Body Business
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 08-04-2008, 06:23 PM
  3. Stupid question
    By Lexi in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 05-28-2008, 10:19 PM
  4. Stupid stupid question
    By Bridget83 in forum Dollar Den
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 09-30-2006, 07:57 AM
  5. Probably a stupid question...
    By Serendipity7 in forum Newbie Board
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 07-07-2005, 01:27 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •