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    Default Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    I visited a regular club of mine a few nights ago and encountered a sales technique that, while it doesn't happen frequently, never ceases to amaze me when it does. I was sitting alone-I always go alone-waiting for my regular lady to arrive for her shift when two very attractive dancers came over and plopped themselves down one on either side of me. While both gals were attractive I was there to see my fave and had no intention of buying a dance from either of them. I politely informed them that I was waiting for another dancer and wasn't interested in any company but they had a pitch and were intent upon my hearing it! I let them go on for a minute or two and when they started pushing VIP I once again told them that I wasn't interested in any company. Upon hearing this, for the second time, they simultaneously got up and walked away without saying a word.

    Now, I can certainly understand why a dancer might approach a group of guys with another dancer but I can't for the life of me think of a reason why two dancers would approach one guy. Maybe one girl is new and trying to learn, maybe they actually think guys will do doubles with them or maybe they are just too lazy to hustle by themselves. Any input from the ladies on this?

    PS-I'm not looking for detailed stories from the guys of great double dance experiences they have had but I am curious if the tag team approach ever works on any of you.
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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    I'm inclined to think lazy and possibly even a bit shy. Lots of dancers get anxiety over approaching customers, so double teaming can take the edge off since you have an ally and aren't facing the client alone. New is also an option, but it sounds like these gals had their pitch down pat, and it wasn't one doing all the work with the other being an awkward new girl. Maybe they're just not overly bright and think that two hustles are better than one, like they can intimidate you into taking at least one (though ideally both) of them?

    No matter how you look at it, it's certainly not the most productive hustle! IMO it's a waste of time unless the customer is known to be into duos -- which generally means having danced for them before. But I also don't like to share and want what's in your wallet all for myself.

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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    unless its at LEAST two guys that totally baffles me too. i have seen some girls do this though, and its because they seem to be joined at the hip and are too co-dependent to do anything on their own. i work with two brazilian girls who do this, they cant stand anybody's company but their own. and yes they expect the guys to do double dances, or take both of them in separately

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    This happened to me and I didn't like it. I feel like it puts a lot of pressure on a guy. I've done it once on a slower night because my friend was bored and wanted to go hustle together so we tried it. There was also another time when I was new at a club and I talked to this girl and asked her if she liked working there. Well that night was pretty dead and she said "lets go do a double dance with one of the guys". So we did, with her leading most of it. She pushed for more and the guy was buying more, but it turned out that she knew this guy was another girl's big spending regular, and she wanted to do double dances with him because of some vendetta she had against that girl. Then during one of the double dances she went and sucked my nipple which I certainly didn't expect or ask for, then went and lifted the guy's shirt and sucked his nipple, and the whole experience was uncomfortable. Then the other girl came back to the regular and they were both pretty much fighting over him and I left that club.

    I will never do double dances again. I have seen girls do it, but very rarely. I saw two familiar duos that often worked together twice, one duo I was sure did this to pull a guy into a VIP for extras, and the second duo probably the same because they would approach a guy and one would rub her hand on his dick over his pants while the other one was talking to him.

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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    Also there is a possibility that if a girl wants to double with another one, it might be because one girl wants in on the other girl's hustling technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Now, I can certainly understand why a dancer might approach a group of guys with another dancer but I can't for the life of me think of a reason why two dancers would approach one guy.
    ^I see this ALL the time. It's an easy, effective sales pitch and usually a popular one. Here, girls will sell double shows as "lesbian shows" and charge double for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sansonnet View Post
    Also there is a possibility that if a girl wants to double with another one, it might be because one girl wants in on the other girl's hustling technique.
    ^I see this happening a lot too (people try to do this with me all the time ).
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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    It has been a dog's age since I've had that happen. The last time I was approached by a duo was back during the good money years circa 2006 and it was not a normal club in my rotation. IME it was more common back when there was more money flowing into the clubs. I doubt that most dancers I deal with nowadays would be remotely interested in splitting a nickel of what I am going to spend with anyone.

    Now OTC offers are a completely different ballgame, but you did not ask about that so I will leave it at that.

    And no, it never worked on me. I have never understood what two girls in a club backroom could accomplish that one could not, so I passed when those offers came up.

    Great topic.

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    No tag teams for me. You're lucky both dancers were attractive (how many drinks did you have?), IME one or more dancers in the tag team, while not a troll, are a bit below average for the club. Often, tag team will emphasize the nasty things they'll do to each other- I'm only interested in the nasty things a dancer will do for me.
    In some of the dicier clubs, one member of the tag team serves as a lookout while the other does the dirty deed. I often have no knowledge of who the new or veteran club dancers are, so tag team could be newbie/vet.I'm guessing most are just dancer "buddies".
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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    It has worked once on me. Extremely slow shift and the offer I had was basically buy one get one free. I had 6 double dances with two ladies for the price of one lady. They offered it because it was the end of their shift and they needed tip out money. Other than an offer like that.....no, it won't work on me as i don't think the value is there.

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    I was drinking water, I drink water most of the time. If I had let this pair keep talking they may have gotten around to trying the lesbian show pitch or God knows what else. My approach is always the same when a dancer(s) plops her butt down uninvited. I let them know before they start the pitch that I'm waiting for someone. In the case of what happened the other night they seemed almost confused when I shut them down at the top of their pitch.

    By the way, I have done a few double dances in my time but it's always been with two dancers that I already knew well and, to be honest, the whole concept didn't do much for me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnow View Post
    In some of the dicier clubs, one member of the tag team serves as a lookout while the other does the dirty deed.
    Oh, didn't think of this. This makes sense, I was wondering what the point was with having another girl there. I thought it was because both were going to do something with the guy.

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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    My friend who dances at LA clubs used to work in a very high mileage place, and she liked doing doubles with customers she didn't know, because 2 dancers would have more control over the situation in the VIP room.

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    ^Oh yeah, I had an experience like that. A girl who was hammered brought me along to do a room with a guy. The guy was trying to take advantage of her so I spent the entire time distracting the guy.

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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    Serves as a distraction. It's easier to do a room with another girl (that you know and know don't do extras) to help with conversation, dancing, and distracting him from wanting to do things that aren't allowed.

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    I do doubles often and rarely get turned down. I think it is because I'm really really into women and most customers can tell how much I enjoy double dances and VIP. However, I only work with girls who are okay with splitting up if the customer is not interested in both. I try not to be overly pushy with it. I also dance with my sister sometimes (we look like twins but are 2 years apart) and for some reason guys love doubles with us.

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    One of my buddies is small about 5'2 long dark hair skinny fake boobs...you get the idea. it works especially with 2 sets of funbags suffocating you.
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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    Doubles never work for me...high mileage dead club where everyone knows who I am here for.

    If my reg wanted to share w someone and double up thats cool....she would make it intereating...but id rather get the fun I drove here for with a 'friend' than pay double and get half.

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    Often the "double technique" is used by some shameless hustlers when they do not see other opportunities in the club at the moment. They come up to a dancer sitting with a customer and act like they are that dancer's best friend. In a few minutes they make their move on the customer, and then slightly push the other dancer out of the way. These girls usually target the more nice and non treating dancers, but think that nobody notices.

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    I've only encountered it once, about two years ago at Treasures in Las Vegas. They were both really young and each one plopped down on one of my knees. It turned into an "I'm getting too old for this shit" moment when their vapid, high-pitched chatter about clothes shopping made me realize that I wanted them to leave. Two gorgeous young ladies in my lap and I'm thinking: "Go. Away." I declined their repeated offers for a double VIP. Afterwards I just thought maaan I'm getting old.
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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    Okay... guilty as charged... I'll occasionally double up with a cool co-worker to get dances/rooms.

    Why?

    • Some guys (not all guys, I get it!) want a multi-girl fantasy experience. For those guys, this is what they dream about...
    • Some guys are easy to convince when two or more women gang up on them (it's a sexy form of peer pressure).
    • Some guys want pseudo-lesbian-type dances... they like to see two or more girls feeling up on one another... whatever floats their boat...
    • Some customers find it exciting and exotic to have two glamorous females fawning over them.
    • Some customers feel epic if they have multiple girls and all of the other guys in the club have one or none.
    • Some customers want to spice up their night and aren't as intrigued by one-on-one dances at that moment. They may just want to try something different.
    • Some guys don't want one scoop of ice cream... they want two... or three... or even four...



    For dancers, it's simple...
    • Double dances sell VERY well. I assume it is for the reasons I listed above.
    • You can do half of the work for the same profit.
    • It's a better paradigm. You're in a room with a friend, you automatically feel safer, you can work a different hustle, and you can improvise with one another...
    • They guys that like doubles, LOVE doubles... it makes for a nicer atmosphere... everyone is comfortable and happy.


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    This often happens when things are slow and my friend and I don't have customers of (respectively) our own. As I've mentioned before, it's often easier to tag team a guy and play to his multi-dancer desires... especially when pickings are slim we have little to lose.
    I swear, my hustle-buddies and I should have an improv show... we have amazing chemistry and play off of one another impeccably. Sonny and Cher beware! We do tandem dances, we take turns, we tease, we joke, we encourage one another... We overwhelm the customer with sexiness. We collaborate and give our lovely customer a unique evening. Dancer rapport is incredibly important... because when it comes to double dances, from a customers perspective, the right pair of gals makes a mockery of math... if you're lucky...

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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    Sophia and Ariel are dead on. Private rooms are safer when there are more dancers than customers, and it's much easier to keep things exciting AND clean for hours than it is one on one. Out of the dozens of times I've done rooms with a hustle buddy I can only remember one time where the customer didn't extend. This only goes for the times I've deliberately hustled with another dancer, though. I've had almost universally awful experiences in rooms where I just happened to wind up in there with random dancers.

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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    There is a girl at the club I work who only works in a double team. she is about a 5 on looks, excellent hustler but always teamed up with young, novice, hot dancers. I guess she does this to help her in what she lack on physical appearance. Somehow this works for her and I rarely see her work alone.

    and like sophia_starina says, "Some guys are easy to convince when two or more women gang up on them (it's a sexy form of peer pressure)."

    I like double dances because it's easier to entertain with 2 women instead of just 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warped View Post
    I do doubles often and rarely get turned down. I think it is because I'm really really into women and most customers can tell how much I enjoy double dances and VIP. However, I only work with girls who are okay with splitting up if the customer is not interested in both. I try not to be overly pushy with it. I also dance with my sister sometimes (we look like twins but are 2 years apart) and for some reason guys love doubles with us.
    Yes i like that

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    Default Re: Dancer Double team-Who does this and why?

    Whenever I see it, it's a veteran trying to get a shy newbie to talk to people.

    I've been in on one attempt, which was just an older girl who had approached everyone already, and was using the double dance approach as a last hurrah before she left. It failed... as it was obvious I wasn't interested and that she was rattling off her standard pitch.

    I will partake in it if there's a group of guys and the ratio is 3:2 or greater - I don't like doing it 2 on 2 because inevitably one or both of the guys are unhappy with their given dancer.
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