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    Hey ladies,

    Last night was my first time ever dancing and I am so incredibly proud of myself for gathering up enough courage to do this.

    I walked in, presented my license, and was taken to the dressing room. I got dressed and shortly after met up with the DJ to pick three songs for my set. I was expected to go on stage not even ten minutes after arriving. I was so nervous but I DID IT! I was shaking on stage but I just remembered to move slow, sensually and to also make tons of eye contact. I felt even more comfortable than expected dancing naked.

    The staff are pretty nice. The girls are standoffish which is understandable. I swear I heard one girl say I was weird. Whatever, I'm sure there are at least a few hundred thousand people in Canada that would say the same about her. She can talk all she wants but she isn't a customer. This isn't day camp. I'm not there to make friends or please her. I ended up walking the floor, and sitting by myself a few times.

    My lap dances feel awkward because we have couches so all my work is done in front of the customer. I don't feel that sexy and both my clients of the night seemed less interested than I expected. Should it bother me? As long as I get that $20 per dance, it shouldn't right? I am still VERY new at this, but I am a fast learner. I'm sure I'll get better at being sexy with strangers.

    My questions:
    1) What are the do's and don'ts of working the floor? Keep cellphone use to minimum? How long should I sit along before looking for customers? Is it ok to sit by the bar?
    2) What do you say when asked why you got into this industry? Do you flat out say "money" or...?
    3) What do you say when customers say you look like you don't belong in the industry?
    4) Has anyone not been able to work through the muscle pain? I thought I was dying last night. Thank goodness my boyfriend is a personal trainer...
    5) Should I wait for a new customer to settle in with a drink before swooping in for the kill? At least after he's ordered a drink?
    6) How do I approach two men sitting at the same table? How can I score a dance from the both of them?

    Any other advice for shyness would be appreciated! Thank-you ladies. I made $40 my first night...LULZ.

    Sarah xo

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    1) What are the do's and don'ts of working the floor? Keep cellphone use to minimum? How long should I sit along before looking for customers? Is it ok to sit by the bar?

    Depends on the club-some won't let girls use their phones at all, some don't care and everything in between. I'd say smiling and not looking distracted works better when guys look at you ,than as if you're in another world so yes, if you want to use your phone keep to a minimum.
    2) What do you say when asked why you got into this industry? Do you flat out say "money" or...? You can do. If that's true. Or if It's for any other reason say that -say what you want! I'm sometimes sarcastic and say 'cause I don't like wearing clothes' or 'my pimp forced me into it' (obviously I then giggle and say I'm joking) depends on the customer sometimes!
    3) What do you say when customers say you look like you don't belong in the industry? Again depends on you,and the customer. Some may want to have a chat about that with you and may warm to you if you do that. For others, I've often said 'yeh I don't do I! Take me for a dance, soon as I've got enough £ I can stop!'
    4) Has anyone not been able to work through the muscle pain? I thought I was dying last night. Thank goodness my boyfriend is a personal trainer... Your muscles adapt sooner than expected. Are you wearing proper shoes?
    5) Should I wait for a new customer to settle in with a drink before swooping in for the kill? At least after he's ordered a drink? I prefer to, a lot of men are uncomfy at being jumped on as soon as they walk through the door. If you get to know a guy over a few weeks/months though, it's fine to jump on them before they get a drink. Some clubs have a one drink rule ie leave guys alone until they've been served and settled in a bit.
    6) How do I approach two men sitting at the same table? How can I score a dance from the both of them? Ask them if you can dance for 'em both!Tell them It's your fantasy !

    And no, you're there for you not to please other dancers. Dancers always talk shit about new girls. I've had girls say such things about me and then later on they've ended up being a good friend! Just concentrate on what you're there for, be friendly to other dancers but not overly. Good luck .
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    Congratulations! You have a great attitude to standoffish girls and work in general, so I'm sure you'll do wonderfully. Sitting by yourself can be quite lucrative since customers are more likely to approach you than if you're in a group of girls anyway, so I try to sit by myself and look approachable whenever I'm not doing anything.

    1) What are the do's and don'ts of working the floor? Keep cellphone use to minimum? How long should I sit along before looking for customers? Is it ok to sit by the bar? This sort of depends on the club. Some clubs don't let you use your cellphone on the floor, but as a general rule, it makes you look less approachable to be super into your phone, so try not to be zoned out on your phone. At my club, most girls sit by the bar when there's nothing going on, but again, depends on the club. Look at what the other girls are doing and follow suit -- like if none of them sit at the bar and it's all customers, probably don't sit around there.
    2) What do you say when asked why you got into this industry? Do you flat out say "money" or…? "I just love to get naughty!" "I thought it would be fun!" "I love getting naked!" ABC - always be closing
    3) What do you say when customers say you look like you don't belong in the industry? They're usually a waste of time, so I deflect and just quickly try to close the sale, then peace out if/when they don't want to spend money.
    4) Has anyone not been able to work through the muscle pain? I thought I was dying last night. Thank goodness my boyfriend is a personal trainer… You'll get used to it. Try not to over-exert yourself on stage/giving dances though! I find it helps to take the shoes off for lap dances.
    5) Should I wait for a new customer to settle in with a drink before swooping in for the kill? At least after he's ordered a drink? Again, depends on the club, but generally, yes. Some clubs are more cutthroat than others though and you need to swoop in asap, so watch what the other girls do. You don't want to be jumping on them as they come in the door though. I do like to sit by the door when nothing is going on so that I can smile when a customer walks in - though I don't start to hustle them or follow them to their table right away. It's just nice to be the first friendly face they see, and it's certainly led to some sales.
    6) How do I approach two men sitting at the same table? How can I score a dance from the both of them? Personally, I avoid tables with more than one customer. I find it much easier to sell to a lone client than to two, because there's a fine balance in distributing your attention to both of them but still priming one/both for a sale. This is a good time to have a hustle buddy so you can both approach and take one client each. But if there's nothing else going on, may as well go up to the duo, sit and chat, and tell them you're ready for a dance. You may only get one of them, but there's nothing wrong with coming back from the dance with the first guy and telling the second it's his turn.

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    Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you ladies.

    I have some more questions...
    How can I give an interesting lap dance without relying on extras? How can I give a great one while he's on a couch? I can't walk around him and have to stand in one place which is in front of him...It feels awkward.

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    Also, the first minute of the conversation is great. If there's an awkward moment of silence can I turn and look at the stage or should I keep looking at my customer? I don't want him thinking I'm uninterested.

    What do you do during an awkward pause?

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    My questions:
    1) What are the do's and don'ts of working the floor? Keep cellphone use to minimum? How long should I sit along before looking for customers? Is it ok to sit by the bar?
    Do NOT go talk to a customer who is already with a girl. DO not use your cell phone while on the floor. I keep mine in the dressing room. Do not sit along if there are customers to hustle. Always be looking for customers. You can sit by the bar but don't look unapproachable, don't be on your phone.

    2) What do you say when asked why you got into this industry? Do you flat out say "money" or...?

    I usually say the money is great and I just LOVE stripping.

    3) What do you say when customers say you look like you don't belong in the industry?

    Thank them and ask them for a dance.



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    5) Should I wait for a new customer to settle in with a drink before swooping in for the kill? At least after he's ordered a drink?

    I usually wait till they at least have a drink.
    6) How do I approach two men sitting at the same table? How can I score a dance from the both of them?

    Go up to them ask them their names and see who seems more into you then sit down, make more small talk, and ask for a dance. Keep trying to sell multiple dances for him and at the end ask if he'd like to buy a friend a dance. If he says no spring up and say "YOUR TURN" to the friend and start dancing.

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    1) I always did keep my phone in my purse, more to keep track of time than anything, or if I had a customer that I was keeping in contact w/. My main reason for having it on me was to set times for VIP, even tho a bouncer would be keeping track, at my last main club the bouncers were spread all over, not just on the floor or in VIP in particular.

    2) 'It is lucrative & flexible.' I started dancing on the side when I began flt school, & dancing gave me the flexibility to make sm $$ around study time & flt blocks that I didn't always have control over.

    3) I would give him a flirty smile & ask him what he meant, then use his answers toward tailoring my dance/VIP pitch. This can be a great opportunity for sm subtle digging to find out what the customer is looking for; his answers can lead to an opening for a VIP pitch or indicate that he might just be a timewaster.

    4) Your body will adjust in time. I know whenever I started back after a break it would usually take me abt a wk to bounce back. Stretch well before & after work, & drink lots of water. Potassium supplements can also be helpful & as Ariel mentioned, Epsom salts. This is also good preventative maintenance, I have worked thru injuries but the older I get of course the slower I am to heal. I noticed esp the last yr I was dancing, a huuuuuuuge difference between when I started at 22 & ended at 27. Take good care of your body, give yourself adequate breaks & take a few days off when you need it.

    5) I often put off approaching guys b/c I am shy as hell. But after going to clubs as a customer (scouting the club as a potential workplace) I can understand when even veteran customers want a bit to grab a drink & settle in. Also giving them a few min before approaching, esp when you are the new girl at a club, can give you time to see whether or not they are a regular of another girl, who may or may not believe you really didn't know any better & were not trying to steal her customer.

    6) The same way you would approach a singleton, esp if they both appeared to fancy you onstage. Also, once you get a bit more established, you may develop at least a professional relationship w/ other dancers & can start double-hustling twosomes.

    7) Are you in a no-contact club? Use what's around you. On the floor this might mean a chair to pose creatively in/over -- can also double as a great balance workout if the chair has wheels. In a smaller booth, use a chair if it is available (I worked in a no-contact club once where a chair was provided for the dancer specifically for this purpose) or lean against the wall for sm slow sexy poses. Eye contact & body language are key when doing a no-touch dance. found this Googling 'science of seduction'.

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    Lol how do you give a good lapdance without relying on extras...hmm lemme guess, you started dancing in Toronto and as usual all the pimped out girls and their men are on your ass to start sucking dick?

    I will be pretty straight with you, there are two methods of "clean" dancing that work for making money. One is you make the customer think he's maybe just maybe gonna get lucky up in that vip area. No promises, vagueness, and more aggressive hustling required. You take them for as many dances as you can get out of them until they finally come out and ask if you're going to do "x" and you just act all confused and play dumb. Two is you realise your product has a niche market in this city. You realise that 7/10 guys are going to be completely useless to you walking in those doors, and you spend allllll your time practicing and learning how to best pick out the 3/10 guys that you might actually stand a chance of selling a clean dance to that night. Tourists. Conservative Guys. Socially Awkward Joe. Your friendly neighbourhood lonely alcoholic. When someone spends money on you, you GET THEIR NUMBER and try and turn them into a regular. It is a tough tough TO out there for us non crackheads and non dick suckers lol
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    Odette has some great advice if you're dancing in Toronto! If you're not in Toronto/a high contact city -- it's important to realize that while YOU may not find the dance interesting, the customer probably does. You're just going through the motions since you're likely doing the same thing over and over again, but the guy is just happy to have a sexy naked lady dancing in front of them. If you're not in Toronto, tell us your contact rules and maybe we can suggest some other moves/things to do during your dances.

    As for awkward conversations… I mean, definitely don't be staring the customer down uncomfortably. It's good to look away sometimes, and looking at the stage can create some conversation since you can mention how sexy the girl up there is and keep him thinking about dances. If I've expended all my small talk and the customer just isn't engaging, I use that awkward silence to simply make my pitch. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but I never understood the girls who just sit with a customer in silence because they've run out of things to say but don't want to ask for a dance. Time is money!

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    THANK-YOU.

    My club is full contact so that I assume gives me some more room to work and be creative. Suggestions please!

    And yes, I work in Toronto. I knew before I bought my license that it would be difficult to work here but I need the money. I don't have a car so traveling out of Toronto is no option...

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    Whatever lvl of contact your club permits, read up on Hustle Hut like your life depends on it, b/c your earnings certainly might!

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    One other piece of advice, particularly about feeling sexy while dancing...

    Men are visual. If he got a dance for you, he likes how you look. Even in a full contact club, backing up for a moment, swinging your hips, arching your back, looking sexy (dancing or posing), will get him more excited about having you up close.

    I also think floor dances in front of other customers are great advertisement. If I'm not making eye contact with the person I'm dancing for, I might scan the room and see what guys are watching, and give them a little sexy smile, and then return my attention completely to my customer.

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    To be honest, and I know I shouldn't feel this way, but I felt like a failure walking out with $40. I felt happy I got SOMETHING but then you think about the debt you have and Christmas, lawyer and school expenses coming up...I get a rush of anxiety thinking about it.

    I got my period today but I'm hoping to return on Thursday/Friday. I'm going to keep this all in mind and hustle hard!!!

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    1) What are the do's and don'ts of working the floor? Keep cellphone use to minimum? How long should I sit along before looking for customers? Is it ok to sit by the bar?
    Always look happy. Yeah keep cell phone use to a minimum unless it's dead. Up to you. At least let them get a drink and sit down first.
    2) What do you say when asked why you got into this industry? Do you flat out say "money" or...?
    "Because I like having people give me money and kissing my ass" is what I say.
    3) What do you say when customers say you look like you don't belong in the industry?
    "And you know this how?"
    4) Has anyone not been able to work through the muscle pain? I thought I was dying last night. Thank goodness my boyfriend is a personal trainer...
    It gets better
    5) Should I wait for a new customer to settle in with a drink before swooping in for the kill? At least after he's ordered a drink?
    Yeah
    6) How do I approach two men sitting at the same table? How can I score a dance from the both of them?

    My tits usually approach before I do. j/k I usually ask "Who's going first?"
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    Thank-you for your input. You are as beautiful in your display picture as I'm sure you are in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahM91 View Post
    Thank-you for your input. You are as beautiful in your display picture as I'm sure you are in person.
    Aw thanks hon The aches will get better and they happen to even us veterans. When I took a break from dancing for a few months my body got all out of shape. I remember my first day back I was sore as hell. Do some stretching before work.

    Also what kind of shoes do you have. "Church shoes" will kill your feet.
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    No problem! I stretched today and it helped a lot actually. I've been taking today slowly. I'll remember to stretch before each shift.

    I have high heels from Forever 21. They look like stripper shoes with less of a "wedge"... My feet surprisingly didn't hurt that bad because I had a lot of time to sit. My thighs were KILLING me. The worst!

    New Question: When you approach a potential customer, do you sit on his lap? Sit next to him? Stand until he invites you to sit?

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    I quite often plonk myself on their laps lol. Or sit next to them if they look the type who might not want that ..It all depends on the customer.
    I never stretch, I'm an idiot as I do a lot of pole work. Just launch myself straight up there lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahM91 View Post

    My questions:
    1) What are the do's and don'ts of working the floor? Keep cellphone use to minimum? How long should I sit along before looking for customers? Is it ok to sit by the bar?
    2) What do you say when asked why you got into this industry? Do you flat out say "money" or...?
    3) What do you say when customers say you look like you don't belong in the industry?
    4) Has anyone not been able to work through the muscle pain? I thought I was dying last night. Thank goodness my boyfriend is a personal trainer...
    5) Should I wait for a new customer to settle in with a drink before swooping in for the kill? At least after he's ordered a drink?
    6) How do I approach two men sitting at the same table? How can I score a dance from the both of them?
    1. Girls usuing phones on the floor is my pet hate . IMO, phones are NEVER "ok" to use in front of customers, even if they aren't spending yet or are just drinking by the bar. If a customer walks in and sees a dancer looking bored and texting etc it looks unprofessional and rude. If a customer walks in to a club and sees a girl standing/sitting by herself who smiles and greets him as he walks by, then he feels welcomed, special and more comfortable...not like she's annoyed by his presence because now she has to get off her phone and work . First impressions are important . It's ok to sit anywhere by yourself if the club is empty, otherwise try to look busy. Work the floor and if you don't have any luck-go and touch up your make up, take a bathroom break or lunch break for a few minutes and then go back out onto the floor.

    2. Everyone has their own "spiel" to deal with these questions. Pick something that is credible and that you are comfortable saying. Some girls have a sexy come back, others have more practical ones. You can imply "money", but never flat out say "money"...it will make the customer realize that you aren't there to have fun with him-which is what he should be thinking .

    3. They will soon change their minds when you're on their lap. This "line" can be harmless (they don't realise it's an insult or backhanded compliment) or it can mean that they want you to prove to them that you wouldn't be a "waste of money". Either way, if you look like "the girl next door" then you need to "sexualize" your hustle with some customers . You can be more physical (arms or shoulder etc) and flirt more when you ask for a dance i.e. "Lets go get me naked etc". Delivery is important-eye contact and a cheeky smile go a long way!

    5. It depends on the club-some have "etiquette" rules and others have a first in, best dressed approach. What are the other girls doing? If they directly approach customers at the bar, then you can too. I prefer to let the customer at least order a drink before I approach them...but at some clubs this isn't an option (you will loose the opportunity to speak to them in this amount for time).

    6. If you are approaching a group of two customers, usually one will seem more interested than the other. Focus on this customer first, but don't ignore the friend. There is a thread in hustle hut about approaching groups-check it out. You can always say things like, "why don't we all go and have some fun together" or (if one is interested but doesn't want to leave his friend, "that's ok, we wouldn't want to leave you all by yourself-why don't you come and have a party with us...", When you get to know some of the other girls, you can get a friend for his friend and go for a double .
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    Q: Do you stand or sit in his lap or wait for him to invite you to sit down?

    I always ask a guy if he minds if I join him before doing anything else. Sometimes I will get a straight forward 'no thanks', which is a great time-saver and lets me move on to someone more likely to buy dances. But this also depends on how busy the club is. If you don't have a lot of customers to choose from, you might have to change your approach.

    Also, if guys are in a group and one says no, don't be afraid to approach his friend! You will never know if you don't ask, and I've earned hundreds in group situations after one of the guys initially said 'no' to me.

    When you get the 'yes' to join, it's up to you where to sit. Lots of girls get good results sitting in the customer's lap, and I've even seen girls straddle guys to get a dance out of them! If the guy is standing up at the bar, you can always stand really close and put your arm around him.

    DON'T feel like a failure for your $40!! Dancing for the first time can be terrifying. I remember my first night..........I couldn't even get the guts to approach anyone, I was so freaked out

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    Thank-you all so much for your help. You all seem so genuine and kind. I wish the girls I worked with gave off this vibe! Haha, oh well. Thanks again. xo

    Another question: What do you guys do with customers that may stop your dancing to talk about your career choice? Do you just smile and try not to feel offended?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahM91 View Post
    To be honest, and I know I shouldn't feel this way, but I felt like a failure walking out with $40. I felt happy I got SOMETHING but then you think about the debt you have and Christmas, lawyer and school expenses coming up...I get a rush of anxiety thinking about it.

    I got my period today but I'm hoping to return on Thursday/Friday. I'm going to keep this all in mind and hustle hard!!!
    Babe, it's your first night! Don't beat yourself up. I have definitely worked nights where I literally made like $2 or $5 or something... no one danced w/ me, just some lame stage tips. Be proud of yourself for even waling in the door, that's hard your first time!

    1) What are the do's and don'ts of working the floor? Keep cellphone use to minimum? How long should I sit along before looking for customers? Is it ok to sit by the bar?
    Follow the rules of the club, but in general try and keep cellphone use to a minimum. You always want to be scanning the room, totally aware of who and what's doing on-- if someone is eyeing you, you want to know so you can go talk to them. If a group of customers or a single customer comes in, you want to know. You can't do that if you are glued to your cellphone. I generally find that it's better not to pounce on a customer when he first enters, because most want to feel out the club and see what their options are as far as getting a dance. But if you are working in a club where the girls are aggressive, you will have to be aggressive as well, because you don't want to be the fifth person asking for a dance and he's totally into you but he already spent his money on three of the other girls. I think sitting at the bar is fine... really depends on how your club is laid out.

    2) What do you say when asked why you got into this industry? Do you flat out say "money" or...? I just say I really like it, I get to talk to cool people, dance, make my own schedule, sleep in... I try not to bring up money. I don't know if it's necessarily bad, but I get a better response from guys when they think I just enjoy being there.

    3) What do you say when customers say you look like you don't belong in the industry? Just laugh it off and make a joke off it, then return to your hustle. This is like the 'well is that your real name?' It's them being stupid and annoying and trying to suck you into conversation for free. Time is money, never forget that.

    4) Has anyone not been able to work through the muscle pain? I thought I was dying last night. Thank goodness my boyfriend is a personal trainer... It will get better, I promise. I worked my first shift in three years last night so I feel ya there.

    6) How do I approach two men sitting at the same table? How can I score a dance from the both of them? If they're together, you can just talk to them both and see who you're getting a better vibe from, who's more interested. You can try hustling them at the same time, but that just doesn't wor that well for me-- not saying it can't be done, just haven't had much luck with it myself. Sometimes guys will buy their friend a dance, or they'll pass you off to a friend... sometimes it's their way of getting rid of you, but that doesn't mean you can't work their friend (I got passed off but managed to score a dance with the friend last night). Sometimes guys are weird and don't like the idea of dancing w/ a girl their friend danced with, sometimes they don't give a shit and sometimes they will ask their friend and if he says you were good they will want to dance with your because of that. You just never know! Every situation is different. I will say though I always find it easy to get a dance from a guy when his friend has just walked into the lap dance booth. I don't know why, but the phrase "well it looks like your friend is going to go have some fun... don't you want to have some fun too?" is gold for me.

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    Great ideas! I can't wait to go back to work! My goal is $160 - eight dances. I hope I can do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahM91 View Post
    Another question: What do you guys do with customers that may stop your dancing to talk about your career choice? Do you just smile and try not to feel offended?...
    Do you mean, they tell you to stop dancing and then start lecturing you about being a dancer? Or it just comes up in conversation? In either case, this is why you need a cover story. If you've told them lies about your real life, you won't get personally offended by what they say about you. Just say you're studying, interning, whatever else, and dancing is your naughty fun time. Then change the subject. Don't let them lead the conversation to judgment areas.

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