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    I'm back at dancing again. new club. Great crowd good money for everyone but me. I don't think every girl does extras but there is a handful out of the 30+ here a night. For fine reason I seem to get customers who either spend nothing or spend a few dollars and then ask for my number and to take me home. I try to play into it without actually agreeing sometimes I actually pretend say stuff like like ""when we get in vip we can have all the fun you want" i figure once he pays i've got what i need and he will get a lap dance and be angry but o well. yes I've become desperate. I even told a guy I'd meet him after just to get 100$ out of him i asked if he was a cop because he didn't seem convinced that i was going to actually go through with it. I don't know if should play along or just approach a new customer when i hear" your not just gonna dance around are you?" or " i wanna take you out after this" I even tell them i only make friendly with ballers in attempt to get him to spend something. then some guys stay off ok and flip after one dance i just have extras here!! on my forehead. I'm staying to feel like my hustle must be all wrong
    approach, intro, how are your enjoying your night, come here often?, flirt, chat him up act interested, sample booty shake, you like that? It gets better in VIP or would you like a real dance ...then comes maybe later or can i put my finger in it in there..ughhhhh!!!! what should i do from there? if they say later i tell them ok honey I'll be back later I'm gonna go party and make some money. I read a lot of hustle hut and it didn't seem to help with this specific problem..please help!!!
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    That sounds like an extras club, and probably a lot more of the girls than you think are doing it. Your location says NYC. If it's a Manhattan club it's even more likely that it's an extras club. Your hustle sounds fine but at the end of the day if a guy came to get his dick sucked and he knows you're not gonna do it, he won't spend on you.

    There was a thread about making money in extras clubs somewhere. I never did read it, but my own opinion, which is probably less educated, is just to not work in extras clubs. Too high-maintenance for too small a reward.

    And don't mislead a customer into thinking you're down with anything in the VIP. The only reason I say this is that if they are expecting sex, and they don't get it, they will usually become angry and aggressive. It can get very, very ugly.

    Work at a better club!!!

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    I agree strongly w/ Starlily. Not only do you risk a customer getting dangerous towards you once you guys get back there & he realises he won't be getting what he wants after all -- if you indicate to the wrong person that you are down w/ that sort of thing, you may be risking solicitation charges.

    The thread Starlily mentioned was posted by Laurisa, you should find it in HH. It has sm very good advice for making the most of your current club until you are able to find a better one.

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    That sucks and I know what you mean first hand.

    I HATE when men ask me for my number or to go home with them. Especially after meeting me 5 min ago or being cheap. wtf? Time is money and with these guys waste your time.

    These men obviously are out for themselves and most likely looking to get cheap 'sexual services'.

    You can probably get a little money from them for dancing or time but it's usually a big headache. And never promise them something you know you're not going to deliver.

    Better to move on to customers who will pay for your dances and time without hounding you for OTC activity.

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    When I find guys who are looking for sexual services in the club, I either advise them to look on Eros.com or to keep looking around elsewhere because I do not provide extras. That being said, I am one of the only dancers in my club that doesn't offer them, so I have to hustle pretty hard to make money and find good customers. It does help when they ask right off the bat so I don't waste my time with a customer who wants something I'm not selling. The less time I spend with guys scouting for full service, the more time I spend seeking out a good spender. I generally don't ever take these guys to the back either, because soon it becomes a game of "don't touch my vjj".
    Generally, when they ask about things in the VIP I'm pretty honest about my answers, but rely heavily on the "you can't touch me but I can touch you and I would love to" lines. It's usually good for at least one dance and I'm not outright lying either.
    If they keep pressing the issue of extras, I move on. Better to get a rejection than to risk being assaulted or fired for not following through with expectations (my manager tends to lean on the extras friendly side as well).

    PS I was curious and looked up the thread, here's the link: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...your-club-area

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwannastripp View Post
    yes I've become desperate.
    Your answer is in your post. The johns can smell a desperate girl a mile away.

    This is going to sound counter intuitive, but try going into work without focusing on money. Pretend you are hanging out at a bar for social reasons, instead. Only talk to customers who you like, even if they aren't spending anything. Focus on the music, your outfits, on having fun and ignore the money.

    This will help you perfect your hustle. It will help you find the quality customers and it will help you shake the aura of desperation that spending customers hate. You have to honestly go in without any expectations, though. You have to seriously be able to go in and just have fun even if you don't make shit.

    You will suddenly be more attractive to the spending customers if you take your focus off the money. So long as you are focused on money and your desperation to make money, it will not happen for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tourdefranzia View Post
    Your answer is in your post. The johns can smell a desperate girl a mile away.

    This is going to sound counter intuitive, but try going into work without focusing on money. Pretend you are hanging out at a bar for social reasons, instead. Only talk to customers who you like, even if they aren't spending anything. Focus on the music, your outfits, on having fun and ignore the money.

    This will help you perfect your hustle. It will help you find the quality customers and it will help you shake the aura of desperation that spending customers hate. You have to honestly go in without any expectations, though. You have to seriously be able to go in and just have fun even if you don't make shit.

    You will suddenly be more attractive to the spending customers if you take your focus off the money. So long as you are focused on money and your desperation to make money, it will not happen for you.
    Are you new? It's fine if girls wanna do things that relaxed, but there's no way in hell they'd make nearly as much money as if they'd been trying really hard. I also started out easygoing, happy to go home from the dive with one or two hundred on Saturday, but when I started to desperately chase that money it was more like five to nine hundred. Most girls trying super hard to make money won't SEEM like they're trying super hard to make money, they'll just look like they're working more actively.

    It sounds like iwannastrip is fine at doing all that smiley flirty stuff and it's most likely not that she has a desperate aura or anything, it's just that there's a large percentage of loser customers where she is.

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    ^^^^ this was very well put.

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    Starlily is right, I've noticed more guys would ask for more in certain clubs, but if I switched to another one it would happen less often depending. Iwannastripp, if you're working in the outer boroughs some of those clubs suck and have a reputation for extras, but not all of them. Lol if I work in a place that is known for extras in the boroughs and go to another outer borough club that is also known for extras, I will sometimes see the same fucking guys going to both of them and I never saw them in the cleaner clubs. I go on TUSCL. net to read reviews about a club if I'm suspicious about it, sometimes their reviews will tell you if they got extras and sometimes they even describe the physical features or say the dancer's name lol. Is there any way you can commute further away from the city to work?
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