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    Default Customers that fall in love Part 2

    Sorry about the thread jack yoda.

    I really wasn't sure since I did fall in something, not love obviously, and I did do all but deliver the flowers to the club at one point. I could tell that thread was going in a different direction based on posts after OP but I legitimately wasn't sure.
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    I jacked someone's thread and it was removed, and I'm not savvy enough to find the original message I posted, but it should be fairly similar to the following...

    I'm hoping for a reality check on customers that fall in love (me).

    I recognize it wasn't love, isn't love, not for me anyways, but I definitely wanted to have a relationship with a dancer. Feel free to ask questions, and I'll answer them to the best of my ability as long as it doesn't reveal personal information. I can be long winded, and possibly sound like a smart ass but unless I am explicitly expressing that is my intent, I'm really not trying to be.

    Oct - spent probably 10k on a dancer (vip/dances, not including food/drinks). Nov - dancer was mia due being sick. Dec - week 1 and half was constant communication via phone, then a week of silence. Currently I was advised by a friend of the dancer via text to leave the dancer alone.

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    I would like to recommend changing the title to "Ask a guy who fell in love with a stripper anything"

    Do you send her dick pictures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveJardin View Post
    ^If you had bothered to read through the other threads in this section, you would have gotten one . This thread wasn't about customers who "fall in love", it was someone sharing an ironic and relative piece of street art. If you want real response to an actual problem it's better to start your own thread (but reading through older ones on the same subject will instantly answer your questions).
    I just found this site today, might have jumped the gun, but I did browse through a few other threads, and I'd prefer to have a personalized reality check. I sincerely believed my post could have gone either way as a hijack or a post that was relative.


    I think I know the general trend, trust me, I've heard from plenty people regarding what I am doing. I've heard views from friends of mine who find strip clubs to be an eyesore, a systematic tool to keep women oppressed, a fun time, a whorehouse, or whatever, and have gotten views from other employees at various clubs, both whom I've paid and just chatted up regarding my situation, and now apparently from a friend of the dancer. I've also had talks with the dancer in particular about it.

    I recognize that the bottom line from pretty much everyone is, depending on how you want to look at it, is that I'm an idiot, or that the dancer was good at her job.

    Can we play the game where I say why I think it wasn't utterly stupid on my behalf or that it was all work, and you can shoot me down piece by piece?
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    Quote Originally Posted by safado View Post
    I would like to recommend changing the title to "Ask a guy who fell in love with a stripper anything"

    Do you send her dick pictures?
    No, the only pics I sent her was flowers that I had intended to give to her for her birthday (we had otc plans on the weekend), but that ended up a bust, and another one was a stack of money (probably about 4k in hundreds, and maybe a couple hundred in twenties), with the following text, "Leaving Work, fuck friendship and go back to professional? Is that what you want?"
    Last edited by Blackhawks; 12-17-2013 at 06:58 PM. Reason: Included the quote I'm replying to.

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    What do you think the chances are that she was not really sick in Nov and instead used that 10k that she made to take her boyfriend on a romantic month long European vacation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by safado View Post
    What do you think the chances are that she was not really sick in Nov and instead used that 10k that she made to take her boyfriend on a romantic month long European vacation?
    I don't know if she has a boyfriend other than what she tells me, but her baby's daddy is currently still in jail (Verified via gov site by me). As for being sick, her Facebook verifies that, along with her family and friends, mother included.

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    As a side, hopefully I'm being judged on not only what I say happened, but how I am expressing it. If you can get any flavor of who I am, feel free to call me out on things. Like, why are you prying in to her personal life. I kind of talk about this IRL too much, to too many people, so hopefully I can find someone who won't mind hearing it. I'm sure this sob story is a drop in the bucket to you regular posters and those in the industry. Giving people I know a respite from my stories, so I thought I'd come here.
    Last edited by Blackhawks; 12-17-2013 at 07:05 PM. Reason: A little more info about myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawks View Post
    I don't know if she has a boyfriend other than what she tells me, but her baby's daddy is currently still in jail (Verified via gov site by me). As for being sick, her Facebook verifies that, along with her family and friends, mother included.
    Are the two of you Facebook friends?
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    In a nutshell, she cultivated you as a good regular and has now cut you off. Possibly because you stopped spending, became too demanding or possessive, or because you were pushing for OTC or "other" services ITC/OTC that she was not providing. Or, perhaps she didn't expect you to be "waiting" when she returned from sick leave. Additionally, if this dancer was actually ill, she probably wants to take it easy and may not have the energy to maintain regulars, at this time.

    We were not there and cannot safety say that there wasn't anything between you. But, I will say that people in general can get along, enjoy each other's company, have a lot in common and have a genuine "connection" while maintaining a purely business relationship. This sounds like a business relationship for this industry.

    Either way, if her friend is asking you to "leave her alone" it's probably best to take that advice. It would be unfortunate on both parts if you didn't and things got ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by safado View Post
    Are the two of you Facebook friends?
    No, when she showed me her Facebook for the first time, unprompted, to show me pics of her kid, she asked me what mine was to be friends. I told her I didn't use Facebook (which is relatively speaking true, I have an account, but I rarely use it. If I do, it is work related. I've got friend requests from five years ago or longer from friends I still see regularly that I never responded to.) I also told her she probably shouldn't show me her Facebook because I'd find her account if we lost contact to get in contact with her.

    Two things I probably need to say to preempt what I think would be your next statement, although it might still be true anyways...

    First, I said that to her because, at every point, I told her that while I was game for anything, I'd rather keep everything professional. It would work out for me because I've been told I get attached too fast and it would work out well for her (monetarily speaking) because I'd be a regular. This was all prefaced by what I told her, which was, I'd be happy to be a regular, and keep things where there were at (at the time, I had been going M-F every night). I also told her I recognized that she was paying attention to me because we had agreed on the price of her time, and I was OK with that. Caveat being, that if it went anywhere more than professional, and it went south or I thought she just was doing it only for the money but wanted me to believe it was something more, I wouldn't pay for her time, in the club or out.

    Second, during part of the first month, she was losing/breaking/theft of her phone was happening every few days. Again, at this point, I should point out, I take people at face value, pretty much at all times in my life. I do try to vet stories as best I can, but if someone says something happened, until I hear otherwise or I can prove it, I've got no reason to treat them differently, even if I have doubts. Because I was seeing her probably every weeknight for that month, I saw her rolling with a different phone every few days.

    I'm just as awkward IRL as I sound here, and I pretty much lay it out thick. Like...

    Her: Look on my facebook, this is my baby John, isn't he cute?
    Me: Yes
    Her: What is your facebook?
    Me: I don't use it, and I probably shouldn't look at yours. I enjoy my time with you, and if I lost that because your phone was misplaced, broke, or got stolen, and I couldn't find you at the club, I would stalk you on facebook.
    Her: Lol, that's ok. I enjoy my time with you too. If you were stalking me or I thought it was too much, I wouldn't have a problem telling you to stop. Remember that mace and knife I told you I keep on me? I can take care of myself.

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    Do you know her in the biblical sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveJardin View Post
    In a nutshell, she cultivated you as a good regular and has now cut you off. Possibly because you stopped spending, became too demanding or possessive, or because you were pushing for OTC or "other" services ITC/OTC that she was not providing. Or, perhaps she didn't expect you to be "waiting" when she returned from sick leave. Additionally, if this dancer was actually ill, she probably wants to take it easy and may not have the energy to maintain regulars, at this time.

    We were not there and cannot safety say that there wasn't anything between you. But, I will say that people in general can get along, enjoy each other's company, have a lot in common and have a genuine "connection" while maintaining a purely business relationship. This sounds like a business relationship for this industry.

    Either way, if her friend is asking you to "leave her alone" it's probably best to take that advice. It would be unfortunate on both parts if you didn't and things got ugly.
    I appreciate your possible conclusions, I've thought the same things too. So, I tried to test them out.

    Money - I don't think it's money, unless she no longer found the previous monies to her liking, she was seeing no less than $500 going to her in the VIP every time I saw her in the club, and I was seeing her every night M-F. The only change from that arrangement was, probably after the first week, I declined pretty much anything physical, other than sitting in my lap or next to me, some kissing, hand holding (yea, I'm lame) and talking, which was a stark contrast to what happened before, money was still the same.

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    Possessive - We laid out some basic ground rules, again, if I'm being hustled somewhere in here, feel free to let me know. Part of that included her letting me know that her child and her work comes first. The only time where there might have been an issue was the following, typically when I was there, I would get drinks and chat it up a bit before we went up, during that time, I would constantly let her know that she didn't have to hang out with me before we went up. I understood she was using her time, and I wouldn't be bothered if she went to the back with someone else prior to me. In fact, we would point out customers and talk about them, sometimes she would approach them, or her them. She would go back with customers, and for some reason, one customer in particular that she went up got me bothered. I let her know, and said that I was just letting her know why I was being awkward in particular that night, and that it was an issue that I had to work out, because it was something contrary to what we had previously discussed. The simple solution to that was I would just not scan the club anymore, and keep my nose down so monkey doesn't see monkey doesn't care. It was only one customer in particular, and I still don't know why. I met her at work, it would be irrational for me to be possessive.

    Demanding - This holds some weight. In the beginning - I usually arrived early, maybe 7 or 8 pm, then I started coming in with probably 20 minutes until close. I would stay there maybe an hour or an hour and a half after close, just hanging out with the employees and regulars. I don't know if I made it clear, but she was the one who pressed for hanging out in person and over phone outside of the club. I told her I would rather be professional. I let her know that if she really felt that way, she didn't really call me or text me that often. She reminded me that she broke/lost/stolen phone often, that she was bad with her phone in general, has a baby to take care of, and basically works the opposite shift as me. I said good points, I'm being insensitive. She said, I'll make an effort to get at you more often, which she did, and I let her know I appreciated it. I'm the ass who sends messages saying good night and good morning. So yea, I guess I wanted more of that.

    Pushing for services - I typically got dances when I go to clubs, no extras. I don't always decline though if they offer it, but I don't ask for it. I wasn't pushing for anything "extra" that she offered. I actually began to decline extras for the most part from her, once I had made a mental and verbal decision to see if this could be anything more than a business relationship. I don't know why I did it, and she asked me later on why I did, because she noticed it too. I didn't have a good answer, other than...

    Her: When we first met, we were doing....stuff, and now we don't?
    Me: ? Sexual?
    Her: Yea...
    Me: Yea, I don't know why I stopped, other than that I made the decision to after I wanted to try out seeing if we could be more than business, and I found out I liked you.
    Her: It wasn't anything else?
    Me: No, I don't know, why? I haven't been paying you any less (Realized after saying that, that it might be a shitty thing to say, but yea, this whole experience was unnatural for me too. As a realist, this is still about money for her most likely, at the same time, she is a person and it might have made her rethink how I thought of her.)
    Her: Just wondering.



    Waiting - We were still texting/talking on phone while she was sick. She knew I would wait. I offered to pay for her bills, which she declined.

    Being too sick to resume - I met up with her about a week or two after she started back up. She said she was fine? I'm not sure how much more demanding I would be as opposed to someone else, the most I wanted at that point was hand holding and conversation.

    Friend - Her friend sent me a text saying, her baby's daddy got of prison, that I was ruining Jane's life, and that I should stop whatever it was I was doing to make her miserable. What I was doing, in all honesty, was blowing her up with texts. I'm not blowing her up with stuff like, I hate you and you better fucking respond. I'm saying what I normally do, which was basically a good morning/good night, some bullshit about what was happening in the news/life, letting her know I miss her and hoping she was alright and she had a good night at work. I've done that in the past, let her know that if she didn't like it to let me know, because I've been told that its crazy. Jane has told me that she had lost her phone, and it was ok because once she got her new phone, she didn't have her contacts, so we would get back in touch that way. She also said that if it was too much, she would let me know, and to stop worrying about how I was behaving, because she liked the attention.

    Now, after she dropped off most recently, I did send her some texts saying that my past texts/calls and visits to the club on her schedule proved unfruitful. I texted her that if I did something wrong, she wanted to end it, she should let me know, because until I hear that, I'm going to assume that things are status quo between us and there is something wrong in your life that you may need help with. I told her I would try to reach her through her family/friends. I'm not trying to be super creep, I know where she lives, but I wasn't going to roll up. I'd rather just see if she was ok through her friends/family w/o revealing what she does, most believe she is a shot girl. Again, I said in case she was just avoiding me, she should probably let me know via text or something to leave her alone, before I did this. I contacted her cousin on Facebook, we talked for a little, and then a few hours later, Jane's friend texts me, saying she got my number out of Jane's phone and was doing this independent of Jane.

    All of this is confusing to me because Jane and I had already talked about John (baby daddy).

    Me: So what is this, where can it go?
    Her: I don't know, I like you.
    Me: What about John (baby daddy in prison)?
    Her: No, I was done with him before he went to prison.
    Me: It's ok, you guys have a kid together, I can't understand the bond since I don't have kids, but I would imagine that it is pretty powerful. I wouldn't be opposed to a short term relationship, or knowing that it could end when John gets released.
    Her: John will always have a place if he wants it in John Jr's life, but as a physically abusive boyfriend (part of the reason for prison), a cheater, liar, and all around deadbeat, I'm done with him. (Her Facebook says the same things from her, with support from her family and friends stretching back from before John went to prison.) John Jr needs his dad, but John Jr doesn't need his dad and mom to be unhappy raising him.


    Also, John is still in prison. So I don't know what Jane's friend is going on about. I might double check my source on that though, gov site is only as reliable as the frequency of the prison's reporting.
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    There is really nothing to be scratching your head about here. Stop giving her money in stacks of hundreds and you will never hear from her again other than a few texts from her asking when you are coming in to her club again to give her more money...

    You are asking total strangers on the internet where you stand with a woman that none of us knows. If you can't talk about this with the lady herself then it is obvious that she is using you as an ATM for as long as she can get away with it. How long that goes on is up to you.
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    There is really nothing to be scratching your head about here. Stop giving her money in stacks of hundreds and you will never hear from her again other than a few texts from her asking when you are coming in to her club again to give her more money...

    You are asking total strangers on the internet where you stand with a woman that none of us knows. If you can't talk about this with the lady herself then it is obvious that she is using you as an ATM for as long as she can get away with it. How long that goes on is up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    There is really nothing to be scratching your head about here.
    ^This! Seeing as the events were in the past and you no longer see her, I think that it should just be a lesson learned. Enjoy your time at the club, but take it for what it is. It's entertainment. Of course "feelings" happen, especially in such an unnatural environment, but they are rarely mutual-this girl's behaviour has shown you this. Move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    There is really nothing to be scratching your head about here. Stop giving her money in stacks of hundreds and you will never hear from her again other than a few texts from her asking when you are coming in to her club again to give her more money...

    You are asking total strangers on the internet where you stand with a woman that none of us knows. If you can't talk about this with the lady herself then it is obvious that she is using you as an ATM for as long as she can get away with it. How long that goes on is up to you.
    Starting to think you dislike me.

    First the the hijack, where I pretty much prefaced that I wasn't sure if it was a hijack. In fairness, it's up to you, you are the mod. But your response of "If you want to start a new thread that's just fine. Your post had nothing to do with this thread." When, I'm posting in a thread about customers who fall in love, about me, a customer, basically falling in love. Maybe I don't know what hijack means, I thought it was off the original topic, so maybe the original topic was only meant for in general, not specific experiences.

    Now your double post, possibly for emphasis, of basically telling me not to use a forum to ask strangers questions. I would guess most people here are strangers to each other, and that they ask each other for opinions and advice. Isn't that a large part of any online forum? A collaboration of strangers with similar interests/experiences looking to build on each other?

    In either case, I had responded in an earlier post, that she could still use me as an atm and she hasn't, so I'm not sure why its "obvious" that she is going to use me as an atm for as long as she could get away with it.

    The reason I can't "talk" to the lady, I'm not totally sure on that. She hasn't responded to my texts/calls, but that has happened before, and she is absent at the club. One of the last things she had told me before she fell off was that she quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawks View Post
    She hasn't responded to my texts/calls, but that has happened before, and she is absent at the club. One of the last things she had told me before she fell off was that she quit.
    ^If she has quit, then of course she doesn't want to stay in contact with a customer/regular. She isn't a dancer anymore and has no need or desire to continue the relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveJardin View Post
    ^If she has quit, then of course she doesn't want to stay in contact with a customer/regular. She isn't a dancer anymore and has no need or desire to continue the relationship.
    I can understand why at a default, everyone is assuming/believes this is a customer/regular relationship. Obviously if I believed that, I wouldn't be here asking these questions. I would be in agreement with you if I believed it was a customer/regular relationship. For my peanut sized brain, can you work backwards for me?


    For example

    This is a customer/regular relationship because...

    you (blackhawks) haven't shown this to be anything but that.
    all the reasons you think its more, are bad reasons because.


    I do appreciate your responses.

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    ^^^^ What exactly do you want us to tell you? You did ask us to you down piece by piece as you continue to find reasons to our responses to the information you provide. You're kinda like the Geico Pig-in-a-Blanket commercial -- you kinda walked right into this one.

    Olive has provided sm very good insight here, esp given the fact that any of us can only tell you so much given that none of us were present during the interactions w/ your dancer friend. I think you would esp do well to heed her advice regarding that one warning to leave the girl alone.

    Lastly, the double-posting is a glitch, so GTFO of Yoda's kool-aid.

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    ^ For the most part, I haven't been shot down piece by piece. More with buck shot.

    You are customer/atm/regular. Get over it. That is the general response.

    I might have come to the wrong place. I didn't realize I would be contending with forum politics. I'm not trying to start a flame war. Pretty sure the rules said to squash flaming, so I'm done talking about kool-aid. I've already said what I thought I needed to say, and did so in what I thought was a flame free manner. I apologize if offense was taken to any party.

    As for your comment about Olive, I said I appreciated the responses, especially olives, and I took the time to respond fairly specifically.

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    "Your reasons are bad reasons" because your "story", while it probably seems unique to you, is typical (if you had bothered to read the other threads in this section you would already have realized this, you would have seen a pattern). And like all OP's in the other threads, you are getting defensive because your experience was "different".

    Whether it is, or was "different", "real" or not is irrelevant. It makes NO difference whether the girl in question is an exotic dancer or primary school teacher, if she is not returning your calls/texts etc-then she doesn't want contact with you and you should respect that. It's really THAT simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawks View Post
    Starting to think you dislike me.

    First the the hijack, where I pretty much prefaced that I wasn't sure if it was a hijack. In fairness, it's up to you, you are the mod. But your response of "If you want to start a new thread that's just fine. Your post had nothing to do with this thread." When, I'm posting in a thread about customers who fall in love, about me, a customer, basically falling in love. Maybe I don't know what hijack means, I thought it was off the original topic, so maybe the original topic was only meant for in general, not specific experiences.
    Simple, if you want to tell your own story you do it by starting your own thread. That's good board etiquette on every board I've ever been on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawks View Post
    Now your double post, possibly for emphasis, of basically telling me not to use a forum to ask strangers questions. I would guess most people here are strangers to each other, and that they ask each other for opinions and advice. Isn't that a large part of any online forum? A collaboration of strangers with similar interests/experiences looking to build on each other?
    Dude, the double post is a glitch in the software here. It happens sometimes. I don't need to post something twice for emphasis. I did not "tell" you not to use the forum to ask strangers questions. Trust me, if you were breaking a rule you would already have been pointed and the post deleted. I posted an opinion on your situation and, yes, it is my opinion that the answers you seek will be found in one-on-one conversation with the lady in question. To be blunt, if she is not interested in having that conversation you already have your answer. In any event, you are welcome to keep wringing your hands here on the forum but responses here tend to be on the blunt side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawks View Post
    In either case, I had responded in an earlier post, that she could still use me as an atm and she hasn't, so I'm not sure why its "obvious" that she is going to use me as an atm for as long as she could get away with it.
    You're right, if she isn't responding to your texts and not dancing at the club she can not use you as an ATM. To me this says that she is not interested in you or your money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawks View Post
    The reason I can't "talk" to the lady, I'm not totally sure on that. She hasn't responded to my texts/calls, but that has happened before, and she is absent at the club. One of the last things she had told me before she fell off was that she quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawks View Post
    The reason I can't "talk" to the lady, I'm not totally sure on that. She hasn't responded to my texts/calls, but that has happened before, and she is absent at the club. One of the last things she had told me before she fell off was that she quit.


    I think this sums it up.
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    Starting to think you dislike me.
    Well he just offered you the best advice the most worthy of friends could ever offer a guy like you in this situation. I.E. to stop throwing all that money away on a woman who doesn't really care about you at all. If you were really smart, you'd thank him profusely, take that advice, & move on with your life.
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    I think this sums it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveJardin View Post
    "Your reasons are bad reasons" because your "story", while it probably seems unique to you, is typical (if you had bothered to read the other threads in this section you would already have realized this, you would have seen a pattern). And like all OP's in the other threads, you are getting defensive because your experience was "different".

    Whether it is, or was "different", "real" or not is irrelevant. It makes NO difference whether the girl in question is an exotic dancer or primary school teacher, if she is not returning your calls/texts etc-then she doesn't want contact with you and you should respect that. It's really THAT simple.
    Your last point of her being an exotic dancer or a primary school teacher is kind of why I came here. Although the answers I am getting from the thread and you is kind of a reverse reasoning, but same conclusion as the ones as I get from friends who have had no contact with the industry, or are pretty green. Ultimately, the answer is its a business transaction that has ended. I actually don't care what her profession is, and I am treating her how I would treat anyone I'm dating (outside of seeing her in the club, that is work since I'm using her time).

    Yes, I think my situation is unique, I'm not saying I'm the only person it has ever happened to, there aren't many things that are unique, it's your word, but its basically a hyperbole. I haven't run across many stories where a customer and the dancer hang out outside of the club with her family, where the dancer refuses money, where the dancer gives out her number, her address, and invites me over to her place, and where we go out together with her kid. I'm sure this has happened, but I haven't seen much of it.

    If a primary school teacher I was dating was flaky with her phone, told me she wanted something more, we hung out frequently (outside the club) with her family and kid, said she had an abusive ex, then drops off, without saying anything about her desire to stop whatever is going on, yea, I would try to reach her. If I get a random text, from a random number, from a person saying they stole my number from her phone to text me something that sounds fishy, and I've already discussed, then yea, I wouldn't really pay it attention.

    I don't have any issues with people being blunt, I get the feeling though that things are being glossed over. I thought I would come here and discuss it with people who might not have the stereotypes about dancers that are aplenty. I think I'm getting unfairly a reverse treatment from those in the industry, as being a customer who just sees women as objects, or as a fantasy love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawks View Post
    Yes, I think my situation is unique, I'm not saying I'm the only person it has ever happened to, there aren't many things that are unique, it's your word, but its basically a hyperbole. I haven't run across many stories where a customer and the dancer hang out outside of the club with her family, where the dancer refuses money, where the dancer gives out her number, her address, and invites me over to her place, and where we go out together with her kid. I'm sure this has happened, but I haven't seen much of it.
    Dude, your situation is not remotely unique. This stuff happens all the time, particularly when the guys in question are dumping large sums of money on the dancer. Sad as it may seem, it is not uncommon for dancers' hustles to cross personal lines when the money is right and friends and family of these girls are often happy to participate when they have big fish on the hook.

    You are having trouble wrapping your arms around this because it all seemed too real and too personal to just be a hustle, but it was. Your inability to process this is a function of your inexperience with these types of hustles, not because you are truly any different than any other mark. When "friends" start texting you to leave the dancer alone, the game has played out. Consider what you spent on her to be tuition and move on.

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