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    When you're doing multiple dances do you tell them a new song is starting?

    The DJ at my club says "new song back there on the couches!" everytime, but my first week I would always ask, do you want to keep going? One of the girls told me to stop doing that because it breaks the mood, so I did-- and the amount of dances I was doing like, tripled. I've gone from doing 1-2 dances with people to averaging about 5-7 (which is a chunk of change at $40 a dance).

    However, tonight I danced with this guy-- he came in with this girl who was super awesome and wanted to buy him a dance because his wife had just left him. I did one dance with him and asked if he wanted to keep going and he said yes. We did two songs more and he said he wanted to stop so I told him it was 80 for the two songs. He got really angry and said he wouldn't pay for the other song. I kept trying to explain it to him-/ that the DJ had stated a new one was starting and that I would get charged for it-- but he was not having it, and the girl overheard and asked me what happened. I explained what happened and was getting upset and she told me to sit down and asked if I had really done the song or if I just wanted the tip, and I said I had done the song, that I did not lie (because I honestly don't lie about that kind of stuff-- I know girls who do and I'm not one of them). She gave me a hug, paid for his third song and gave me a $60 tip and said next time to just be more clear.

    Everything turned out fine but it made me worried-- cause I don't want that to happen again when we're talking about a lot more than 40$ and there isn't a nice girl to swoop in and save me... I just also don't want to go back to averaging 1-2 songs a customer.

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    Default Re: do you tell them a new song is starting?

    I always something along the lines of, "you don't want to stop now, do you" or "that was just a warm up". I honestly don't want there to be any confusion or guys thinking I'm giving them a free song. Yeah I may not get as many by just assuming, but it's worth not having to deal with that hassle.

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    Default Re: do you tell them a new song is starting?

    that happened to me once;I got jipped out of £20 for an extra dance when I asked if he wanted me to keep dancing and he decided to be an asshole and contest the payment of the extra song at the end. now, when the dance is done, I stand over them with my tits with my in their face and ask if they want another. if they say yes, I smile and giggle and say, 'that'll £20 then please, babe!' and bounce my tits a bit and it works a treat. most guys are happy to hand over the money so I pop it in my purse (and give them a nice little ass wiggly as I do it) and keep going. it may feel weird breaking up the dances with money exchanging, but it guarantees that you get paid and you don't waste your time. xx

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    Default Re: do you tell them a new song is starting?

    For the most part, no, but it depends on the customer. You don't need a blanket policy of telling them all or telling none of them.

    If they are drunk, foreign, shady, or otherwise give me a feeling like they ought to be warned between songs, I will make it crystal clear that we are starting another song/dance. I know that 'give me a feeling' is a terribly vague prerequisite, but you really start to get a feel for people once you've been dancing for a while and should always trust your gut instincts about them. In all of the above cases, I also make sure to tell them the price per song before we even start dancing.

    This is also a matter of knowing your club and clientele well. Some clubs are just more conducive to guys trying to get away with everything they can than others, and in those I would collect upfront and say something between songs. There's also often a difference between early in the day/night and end of the night when many customers are drunk.

    There will always be customers who will try to take advantage of you not making it clear -- and even sometimes when you do -- and there's not a whole lot you can do about it. You're lucky to have the DJ announcing it, so I'm sure security/management would be on your side if the customer insisted on escalating it to management. I find that offering to escalate it to management is the swiftest way to get them to pay up since they know they are in the wrong.

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    Default Re: do you tell them a new song is starting?

    Personally, I make it a point to say "did you wanna keep going" right when the song ends and I'm real close to their ear/face. I do this for two reasons: the first being that I am fucking shitty at confrontation, so I wanna make it clear what he's paying me at the end. I don't wanna be arguing for what's really mine, since I know I will lose out. Secondly, my whole stripper persona is that I am super sweet, honest, submissive and blah blah blah so I kind of make it fit into that. They will always continue but I agree it does break the mood. I have a lot of girlfriends that disagree with this practice and that totally works for them. Asking works for me but powering through works for them, to each their own.

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    Default Re: do you tell them a new song is starting?

    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    For the most part, no, but it depends on the customer. You don't need a blanket policy of telling them all or telling none of them.

    If they are drunk, foreign, shady, or otherwise give me a feeling like they ought to be warned between songs, I will make it crystal clear that we are starting another song/dance. I know that 'give me a feeling' is a terribly vague prerequisite, but you really start to get a feel for people once you've been dancing for a while and should always trust your gut instincts about them. In all of the above cases, I also make sure to tell them the price per song before we even start dancing.

    This is also a matter of knowing your club and clientele well. Some clubs are just more conducive to guys trying to get away with everything they can than others, and in those I would collect upfront and say something between songs. There's also often a difference between early in the day/night and end of the night when many customers are drunk.

    There will always be customers who will try to take advantage of you not making it clear -- and even sometimes when you do -- and there's not a whole lot you can do about it. You're lucky to have the DJ announcing it, so I'm sure security/management would be on your side if the customer insisted on escalating it to management. I find that offering to escalate it to management is the swiftest way to get them to pay up since they know they are in the wrong.
    That's a good point--- I just started back up again, so I think my radar needs some tuning, as far as telling who's going to be OK with the prices and who's not. I danced with a couple guys this past weekend who did like 8+ songs (so $320+) and were fine with paying and tipped me well, and then I had a guy do $280 worth of songs and refuse to pay... but when I look back, they were very different customers, the ones who paid were regulars, more sober and older, whereas this guy was young and drunk. And unfortunately my management doesn't back me up... I mean they will speak to them but they don't do a whole lot more than say "you need to pay her."

    Thanks for the advice babe!

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    Default Re: do you tell them a new song is starting?

    I agree that asking every song, or otherwise indicating that another song is starting & they have to pony up if they want to keep going, can break the mood -- but I would rather break the mood & get the one or two or five or however many he got, paid for. I have stacked dances & gotten gypped before, & NVR have any of the staff or mgrs at any of the clubs I worked backed me up. So F that noise hard & w/ no lube. I would collect every other song, unless it was sm1 I had danced for b4 & knew that they were good for paying for a couple more.

    If they act all butthurt that 'OMG don't you trust me?! I would NVR dream of stiffing you, gorgeous!' just tell them in your sweet way or your no-bs way that you have in fact been stiffed b4. IME this is def one of those areas where if they put up a fuss it kinda tells you everything abt them you need to know.

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    Default Re: do you tell them a new song is starting?

    I totally agree aniela

    The club I work does not back you up especially if you don't collect upfront.

    I have had a couple past experiences of guys stiffing me of earned money so even though It seems I make less, it's worthy the peace of mind knowing this guy is clear and the time we have together goes smoothly.

    So yes to me it's better safe than sorry. You'd probably have to test this out on your own and see what works best for you.

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