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    Everyone on the DP forum will have just received a message saying that SM accounts can now be transferred into DP without name change/new account etc. DP has also said that SM accounts can be transferred out of DP also.

    Looks like the process is a lot more streamlined now and more similar to the DP AW setup.

    Seemed worth posting here, especially as some might find it useful during the holiday season.
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    Not gonna lie...

    This tempts me.




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    so does DP pay out every day ? how fast does the account transfer take ? i cant take a day off right now but getting that money asap would AMAZING

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    I transferred out of DP at the beginning of November and it took a few days, basically just as long as it took SM support to get to my request. I did have to undergo account "verification" after transfer, but that happened immediately after I emailed Liz about it, otherwise you risk waiting 10 days or however long support feels like taking to get to it. DP does pay daily, as long as you make 20+ dollars for that day, before UK time cutoff (midnight). I loved DP until I realized how much money I was losing not only with the percent cut (which is now lower after the fiasco in November), but also with the daily load fees.

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    yeah i just realized that your paying that initial 5% plus 5% per load so your losing 10% of your income to get it sooner. thats a pretty steep price.

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    Actually, if its 30% for DP you're losing 15% or so + 5 percent of the remaining.

    You get 81.4% of your normal cut, losing 18.6%.

    [1.00 - ((30/35) * 0.95)] * 100 = 18.6%

    Under the DP model, that amount is every day whether you need it or not.

    Its why we decided to eat the load fee. If you're already getting 15.9%, then charging models that extra few points to put it on their cards is just rude. I'm running very few models, and they still use it often enough that I make a profit without charging everyone full time and without charging the load fees.

    Consider that Payoneer takes out a certain percent 2 or 3 more times when you actually use the money, it gets even worse.

    Put into perspective though, (the studio that shall not be named) takes a whopping 43% of your money for being listed on their white labels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelfaced View Post
    so does DP pay out every day ? how fast does the account transfer take ? i cant take a day off right now but getting that money asap would AMAZING
    I transferred in to DP when the whole fiasco stated. I figured, hell he already had my info on AW so what does it matter now, damage done, I might as well get the daily pay I NEED during my life transition. My account was transferred in a matter of minutes. I kept most everything on my account in tact (faves, ratings, tags, blocked, all of it).

    Upon switching a few things occurred you might want to be aware of

    1. My payment history was no longer visible to me. DOWNLOAD yours first. Anything prior to the switch will be gone from your view. Good luck asking support to give you that info once it is gone.

    2. You will have to ask support to put back your break button, the ability to raise your rates and ability for GS once you have your new account.

    3. My placement bounced a lot. It was like the system was confused about my profile. Be ready to put in time to stabilize your placement again. Doesn't take long, but you might have to be ready for it. I bounced from 3rd row to page 7 for 2 days. I had to stop paying attention to it.

    4. Try to time the pay period. if I had to do it over, I would wait until I saw the payment from SM issued then ask for it to be transferred before SM owes you any money. If something goes wrong and you are now under DP, SM support will not answer any questions, just forward your question to DP and confuse everything.

    5. Ask DP what percentage of SM earnings are, just ask. Seriously, ask DP.

    6. I live in Central time zone. I am usually loaded between 9-11 am.

    Hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackAlexander View Post

    5. Ask DP what percentage of SM earnings are, just ask. Seriously, ask DP.
    Did they change it from 30% gross pay? The old rates were 30% paid daily or 34% paid weekly. I know there was a holiday special, but is it now permanent?

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    I'm not judging, and I'm certainly an outsider here because I've never been on DP though I've been tempted to join before all the craziness started... But I'm just amazed that people are still wanting to join DP after all that's happened. KatyBolelyn seems to have an awesome daily pay option that's better than DP AND she's not a crazy guy who doesn't give a crap about model safety and privacy (at least from what I can tell).

    Just my outsider observation... Y'all can do what you want, I just want to make sure everyone has all the information so that they can make an informed decision. Not sure what sort of advertisements Colin is running to get more models after so many left.

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    Is DP still run by the insane person who pretended to be a camgirl and threatened to release personal information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmberAustin View Post
    Is DP still run by the insane person who pretended to be a camgirl and threatened to release personal information?
    Yes, it is. Which is why I posted my above comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsani View Post
    I'm not judging, and I'm certainly an outsider here because I've never been on DP though I've been tempted to join before all the craziness started... But I'm just amazed that people are still wanting to join DP after all that's happened. KatyBolelyn seems to have an awesome daily pay option that's better than DP AND she's not a crazy guy who doesn't give a crap about model safety and privacy (at least from what I can tell).
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    Agree. If I wasn't already signed up in the DP studio for my AW for over a year, I might have hesitated to switch my SM account as well. KatyBoleyn does seem to have a good thing going. I like that you can get instant pay option, and only take what you need.

    I went through a lot of stress with SM before I went to DP, which is why I went to DP. SM held my account earnings for a month because of a mis-communication between myself and SM support (go figure). Liz was finally able to straighten it out, bless her soul. SM offered me the chance to switch to DP without harming my performer account and I ran.

    Now I am just frightened to touch my SM account. So in the DP studio I shall stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsani View Post
    I'm not judging, and I'm certainly an outsider here because I've never been on DP though I've been tempted to join before all the craziness started... But I'm just amazed that people are still wanting to join DP after all that's happened. KatyBolelyn seems to have an awesome daily pay option that's better than DP AND she's not a crazy guy who doesn't give a crap about model safety and privacy (at least from what I can tell).

    Just my outsider observation... Y'all can do what you want, I just want to make sure everyone has all the information so that they can make an informed decision. Not sure what sort of advertisements Colin is running to get more models after so many left.
    Well, I said it tempted me, but I didn't jump ship.

    If I could join KatyBolelyn's pay system without having to close my account, re-build my fan base, re-build my placement, etc, etc, I would go with her. For me, closing my account and opening a new one would be extremely bothersome, especially at this time of year.

    However, I'm not going to be shifting my account, partly because of the issues with that dude, partly because of what JackAlexander said, partly because I don't want to interfere with my account, partly because I have dyscaclulia and don't know wtf all these percentages are! XD I should probably stay put at least for the time being.




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    Well, I said it tempted ... partly because I have dyscaclulia and don't know wtf all these percentages are! XD I should probably stay put at least for the time being.
    You're not alone at all in this, where I worked before we had MBA's that couldn't do basic percentage math when figuring interest and commissions. This, however, is how IM and other studios operate ("20% vs 35%, that's not much is it?"). I'd say better than half this industry relies on the fact people (customers, affiliates, and camgirls) can't or won't do consumer math. They even tripped me up once or twice when someone won't be clear about exactly which "percentage" they're talking about. This is why, since starting this project, I've had absolutely absurd conversations with other models regarding the fact that IM "pays up to 90%!" (*facepalm*) or how I can't make any money if I don't charge a percent on regular pay, therefore I'm scamming (*double facepalm*), or how if I only charge when you take an early payment, then that you are "carrying" the other models (*triple facepalm*).

    This is also the reason for the lack of enthusiasm about my little project. People don't want hard facts and numbers and logic to compare anything. They want big flashy promises and vaguely worded excitement. My Asperger's prevents me from doing this, so I have to work around it for competitive edge. My program is every bit better than even signing up directly with SM, but it means nothing to show the numbers.

    I started writing a basic guide on this whole percent math thing, but without someone actually sitting down and being dedicated to learning from it, it won't do much good for those that actually need it.

    As for the account thing, I have no answer yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsani View Post
    I'm just amazed that people are still wanting to join DP after all that's happened.
    Same here. Was going to say the same thing but I decided to keep my mouth shut because I didn't want to possibly derail the thread.

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    Yeah, didn't mean to derail the thread, but I wasn't sure if some of the newer ladies here didn't know. And I wasn't faulting anyone who was tempted, it is tempting, especially when they throw in the "don't have to get a new account" thing. Like I said, I just want everyone to be informed.

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    Ive considered DP before. I decided not to because of all the sketchiness and the fact that I would have to close and restart my SM account. BUT since I am having a very difficult holiday season, (and since I am now able to keep my profile on SM) Im taking a chance. I signed up. I was signed up through DailyPay in literally less than a day and my direct deposit to Payoneer was approved in minutes. I can also leave at any time. All the questions Ive had have been answered promptly. All the models who I see posting on the DP forum with problems seem to have their problems resolved quite quickly. So since being signed up through DP, everything has stayed the same on my SM profile. So far, so good. If anything crazy happens, Ill be sure to let yall know And thanks BritishBecky for the thread, really helped me out in a hard time right before Christmas I woulnt have known about it otherwise.

    Oh yeah... and my placement is the same
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    I'm scared shitless, but I'd like to make the switch, preferably before January 1st... can someone please tell me what I have to do?!?! The DP link online seems broken... old link, perhaps...?!?! Thank you!!!!

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