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    When the "Our America" Episode came out with Lisa Ling on the subject of porn, they featured a couple and a solo woman who make their living from camming. I thought there might be too much competition. Apparently she was disgusted and they cast camming in a bad light since the solo woman came out to her daughter about it and she was shunned and it "tore their relationship apart" for some reason. However, this new HBO series is supposedly covering camming, the realtouch, and pro-am porn in a less biased way. You may recognize some of the performers in the video (congrats for those who were featured!)

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    Is it a good thing? Is it a bad thing? Will oversaturation of the market get closer because of it?

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    Default Re: Documentaries covering camming: Good or bad?

    Honestly, I think it's a bad thing.

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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: I hate hate hate any publicity for camming. I don't want the average person to know that it's a thing.

    Three reasons:

    1) Increased competition--No one needs (more) 18-year-olds signing up on camsites, knowing nothing about it and getting scammed/giving it all away for free, and then quitting a month or two later and having that follow them around for the rest of their lives. It's common enough as it is.

    2) Less stealth--A lot of people aren't really aware that camming exists, or know of it only in a passing, theoretical sense. "Pretty girl who works at home" doesn't necessarily set off alarm bells for them so they don't ask too many questions. I've noticed that a lot of men 18-50 that I tell about my (fake) job have been making camgirl/sex work jokes... I really do not need that awareness to spread to the rest of the population, especially my family or potential future employers.

    3) Increased awareness = decreased taboo. This has been discussed on these forums a bit but not enough IMO. We make money off of what we do because it's naughty, because it's not socially acceptable. If it was the norm to cam more girls would do it and guys wouldn't be willing to pay as much (see what's happening with dancing.) I want camming (and sex work in general) to be as shocking and unacceptable (within reason of course) as possible so the industry doesn't die out. Obviously men are always going to pay for women to actually fuck them but I do worry about what will happen to women (like myself) who don't want to go that far and depend on things like camming, dancing, etc to pay their bills.


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    To me it's a double-edged sword. On one hand, I'm all for advocating for sex workers and making it more accepted in society. But on the other hand, part of what makes this such a lucrative business is the fact that it's so "taboo" and most people don't want to do it. We fill a niche and we reap the benefits, but at the same time, because it's so looked down upon and misunderstood, we face losing our vanilla jobs and our families among other things if we're outed or come out.

    As much as I really wish more people knew about and understood camming and the adult industry and that it wasn't stigmatized so much, I really feel that if it was more accepted, more people would do it and our incomes would go down dramatically.

    It's both good and bad, but probably more bad than good.

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    If not for the taboo, I have no doubt that the typical hourly wage for a U.S.-based cam girl would fall below the minimum wage. Unskilled work is a buyer's market. The taboo is the only thing limiting the supply of performers sufficiently to allow many of us (and even now it's probably not the majority) to make a comfortable living.

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    I agree with Tsani but I would love to see an episode with these guys.
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    I was approached by VH1 to be a few episodes of a new documentary series and I turned it down. I like my privacy and I had no interest in it. I don't think these show will hurt camming..it won't make girls think it's more acceptable, either they want to try it or they think it's wrong. Come on, it's SO over saturated as it is anyway.

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    did anyone catch the episode last night?

    I had a reg tell me about it but I missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabihah View Post
    Unskilled work is a buyer's market.
    My view on this kind of links in with the things others have said about competition. Our work is already flooded with new girls pouring in all the time. But for however many new girls there are, they come and go. Some stay. Some stay for years, only to stop. Some start back up again, and some don't.

    I *always* see familiar faces on the front page of Streamate. Many of these women have been working for years and worked their way up to that. The new girls come and go all the time, but those top girls are technically my competition. I share the front page with them. The girls on the back pages I don't consider a threat, but there will always be back pages of girls who are coming and going.

    This is a job that can pay over minimum wage for little skill, work and investment, but those who don't put much work in are not a threat to my work in my eyes.

    So going back to what I quoted from you, I see this job as being very much "unskilled work" for those who don't make as much as top girls. The "unskilled" performers can log on with the webcam built into their laptops, on the same internet line they had before they found camming, with the same laptop they used before camming, make some money, and go. For those top girls, and those who have made this their FT career, this is a job which requires much skill, investment, time and hard work, being as it is what you make of it. But certainly not all potential camgirls go on to become that. To become that, then I believe that requires more skill.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms.Lacey View Post
    did anyone catch the episode last night?

    I had a reg tell me about it but I missed it.
    Are you talking about the one on HBO? If you are, I watched it. It was pretty informative. The couple that was featured on there had some serious humping skills lol

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    lol yea that one. I can't wait to see what its about because I read a Q&A and it was complete BS lol

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    Is this show online anywhere. I would love to watch it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    Is this show online anywhere. I would love to watch it .
    They have it on HBO on demand and I'm pretty sure HBO GO . It's sooo short I wish it was longer 30 minutes wasn't enough time. It didn't show camming in a negative light at all.

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    I saw it. It was short and not super in depth, but it was non-judgmental and let the models tell their stories. The editing was a little rough but it wasn't bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitandpretty View Post
    They have it on HBO on demand and I'm pretty sure HBO GO . It's sooo short I wish it was longer 30 minutes wasn't enough time. It didn't show camming in a negative light at all.
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    It was a bit boring to me and seemed more like a promo for some models and RealTouch lol. I saw some reviews from men and they thought it was typical and boring as well. Honestly, there might be a little over-saturation from it, but there also might be an influx of customers too. I wish it were a bit more in depth, and showed cammodels of all shapes, sizes, and ethnicities and got more into other stories besides the couple, but what can you do? For once, I'd like to see people speak of the not-so glamorous side of camming, like percentage, etc. To me, all these documentaries are good for curious customers, and over-saturated models.




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    Where can I watch this online? Free or paid doesn't matter. I totally forgot about it.

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    I'm about to eat these White Castle cheeseburgers, so I'll come back to this thread in a little bit. But the points that Procrasturbator made in her post (she hit the nail on the head for me) are reasons that I'm also not thrilled about camming documentaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Where can I watch this online? Free or paid doesn't matter. I totally forgot about it.
    It's on HBOGo.com under documentaries if you have HBO as one of your regular cable provider channels.




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    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    It's on HBOGo.com under documentaries if you have HBO as one of your regular cable provider channels.
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    People talk about how camming is oversaturated. True, I do see a lot of girls online on SM or MFC. But a big percentage of them don't speak English well (not trying to bash here, but most spenders on SM are looking to communicate in English/are from Western countries), don't have great cams, and aren't that interactive. The number of camgirls doing really well (if placement is indicative of earnings) is actually pretty small IMO.

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    Hey I was the RealTouch performer. No one ever asked us to talk about camming. It would be nice to be able to have time to honestly discuss the industry. We are not bimbo's, we work our asses off and we do respect ourselves. Camming is hard and they only show the glamourous side. They need to film it from our side, to see all the real bullshit and abuse we take.


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    It was a bit boring to me and seemed more like a promo for some models and RealTouch lol. I saw some reviews from men and they thought it was typical and boring as well. Honestly, there might be a little over-saturation from it, but there also might be an influx of customers too. I wish it were a bit more in depth, and showed cammodels of all shapes, sizes, and ethnicities and got more into other stories besides the couple, but what can you do? For once, I'd like to see people speak of the not-so glamorous side of camming, like percentage, etc. To me, all these documentaries are good for curious customers, and over-saturated models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Hey I was the RealTouch performer. No one ever asked us to talk about camming. It would be nice to be able to have time to honestly discuss the industry. We are not bimbo's, we work our asses off and we do respect ourselves. Camming is hard and they only show the glamourous side. They need to film it from our side, to see all the real bullshit and abuse we take.
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    Thank you so much
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