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    Dizzy Club ATM - Your Thoughts...

    With high fees, why do customers use the club ATM vs. bringing set amount of cash for drinks, tips, dance money, etc.?

    Also, I always see girls leading customers to the club ATM after their dance. This seems crazy to me! Not only does it seem insane for customers to pay a ridiculously high fee to access your money (when you could have just brought it in with you for free in the first place) but it also seems insane for dancers to spend time and energy dancing without knowing beforehand if the customer will pay or not. I mean what if they have no money in their bank account or no credit cards?

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    Can't say for sure, cheaper to exit the club and go somewhere else unless the place charges you to get back in. Suckers is the best phrase that comes to mind.

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    Default Re: Club ATM - Your Thoughts...

    Some customers probably do bring a set of money, but if they're drunk and need more money from the ATM they're not going to worry too much about the high fees.

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    99% of the customers do not notice, or care. They are in the moment and paying an extra $15 for example when they are withdrawing large amounts doesn't seem that insane at the time. It's the one's who only withdraw $50 here and there who notice, this adds up. I prefer it if the club has an ATM, regardless of the fees, it's just convenient (for us and them). I find only taking x amount and being on a budget insane personally. The fees are unfair, I'm not sure exactly why they are that high (I know that everything is in a SC lol)-does any one know?
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    The only thing dumber than using the club ATM machine is buying club funny money at a surcharge. As far as the girls leading guys to the club ATM after their dances I'd have to say they they are taking a pretty big chance. I've often wondered how often they get stiffed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveJardin View Post
    The fees are unfair, I'm not sure exactly why they are that high (I know that everything is in a SC lol)-does any one know?
    Because they can be! The companies who place ATM's inside of strip clubs know exactly where they are putting them and they know that, as you said, most guys are in the moment when they are standing in front of that machine and will pay the fee.
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    I second everybody else.

    I think they come in with the mindset of only spending what they brought, but as they get drunker and get a dancer with good sales skills or that really tickles their fancy, that goes out the window.

    None of the clubs I've worked in will allow them to leave and come back, and it's also a hassle to get in the car and drive to an ATM. Fuck, if it was me and I wanted the money for a VIP or something, I wouldn't hassle with that, I'd factor the $12 charge in as a cost of the evening.
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    That's the strip club customer equivalent of the "walk of shame", and I've taken the walk of shame to the ATM a few times myself. Yes, it's dopey to pay so much, but agree with Olive that once you're in the moment, paying $10 (the most I"ve ever seen) on a $300+ withdrawal isn't something I think much about. It's always been because I waited until just before my trip to hit my local ATM, which turned out to be out of order. Now I usually grab all my SC cash earlier in the week, and haven't had to make the walk of shame in a couple of years.

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    Using a club ATM is a mistake most club goers have made... ONCE. (or more )

    Besides the heat of the moment aspect mentioned by most posters, I'd add unfamiliararity with area combined with time constraints for out of towners. Then some of the more "enlightened" club ATM fees weren't that much worse than what regular bank ATMs charged for out of network transactions.

    Still, it is much better to be prepared, as the Boy Scout motto says.
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    I've never used a club's ATM and I don't intend to. For me it's a self-control thing: I budget for a certain spend and don't go beyond it.

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    Who are we to judge?

    It's a customer's money and they can spend it as they see fit. If they are okay with fees, why not utilize the ATM and have a good time?

    As a dancer... my perspective is that an ATM is better than the hassle of funny money. The surcharges for the customers are usually similar but the club doesn't apply a surcharge on the strippers (as it would if we were to trade in funny money).

    The way I see it, mo' money... mo' money. And that's a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    As a dancer... my perspective is that an ATM is better than the hassle of funny money. The surcharges for the customers are usually similar but the club doesn't apply a surcharge on the strippers (as it would if we were to trade in funny money).
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    Yes, every dancer I know says club funny money=bad! In addition to the double surcharge some clubs also make it a bit if a pain for the lady to cash in the funny money. One club I frequent only allows the girls to cash in their funny money on Fridays early in the day.

    While I have been known to use a CC to pay for room fees or drinks in a club I always pay the lady in cash.
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    The ATMs at the clubs I go to only charge 6 dollars. Of course, that's still over twice the normal ATM rate. Why such huge fees at these other clubs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FasaCorp View Post
    The ATMs at the clubs I go to only charge 6 dollars. Of course, that's still over twice the normal ATM rate. Why such huge fees at these other clubs?
    Well, again, it's strictly because they can. I don't know if some states regulate ATM fees and maybe others don't. I've been in clubs in Mass where the fee was $10 and the limit per transaction was $200.

    Sophia's post reminded me that sometimes libido over rules common sense. The last time I did use an in-club ATM was at a small club in Oxnard, CA a few years ago. The lady who had piqued my interest was a true beauty and, to be honest, I probably would have paid just about anything to get the $300 I needed from the club ATM for a VIP room. She was worth every penny...
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    Something no one has mentioned is a lot of banks have perks!! If you keep $150 in your checking, 6 transactions a month - refunded ATM fees up to six times!! Also, USAA (military & children of ex military too) will always refund the charge no matter how many times.

    Cheers for banks! And cheers to people that don't care!

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    I have not used a strip club ATM for years now and I was annoyed the last time I did just as a matter of principle. I just go in with enough cash to cover whatever I want. On any given night in any club, I could spend anywhere from $0 to $600 (or so), depending upon any number of things. So I know that if I go in with at least $700, I am ready for whatever comes up. And when the night is over and I count what I have left, then what I spent is the difference between that and the 700 I started with. Simple.

    Now having said this, I am fairly disciplined in who and what I spend on and often leave a club with money still in my pocket. Some guys might find this harder to do and, hence, rely upon strict cash limitations to maintain self control. I just can't stand the thought of being limited in a club by thin pockets, though when I do spend at the outer limit, there is generally a very good reason for it.

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    I don't use ATMs at clubs due to skimming fears and don't want the location on my bank statement. I do the same thing rickdugan does, but for a different reason.

    Still, I'm dropping $600 at the club, more if I VIP/champagne. Which I thought was a lot before reading some of the stripper stories here. Usually had several expensive drinks first. In Manhattan, a decent drink in a club is $20. The evening might be a grand before hotel. I won't even notice a $6 surcharge.

    I mean, the question is, why take a surcharge when you're dropping big money on an ephemeral luxury?

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    We went to a club while I was on vacation in New Orleans right on Burb Street. One of the guys in our group got really into a gal and dumped all his money on her, then wanted more. He want to the ATM to make a withdrawal and it was a $10 charge with a $100 cap on max amount. He took out the $100, did 5 more dances with the gal, and didn't tip her extra for it, she got a little bitchy and he said blame the ATM, not him. I'm on his side. The club was handing out free entry passes to people walking by. They stamped our hands with an orange mark and said if he left and wanted to come back in he would have to pay the cover.

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    If a guy is at a sc ATM then the dancer is doing a great job or he has no self control. I've been there done that lol. Most guys know how much they plan on spending and take care of getting it before going in.

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    Well, if they're being led to the ATM they just danced with a really good stripper

    If guys tell me they don't have any more money left in their wallet, my automatic response is for them to use their credit card or ATM (I much prefer ATM). Most of the time I'm pretty damn convincing, it's pretty unusual for someone to tell me that they won't go to the ATM or use their credit card, I can only think of one British guy who was vacationing in LA who wouldn't go in the last couple weeks and it was because he said he was getting charged something like a $20 international fee or some bullshit . Dances at my club are expensive so bringing a $100 budget, or even $200 budget is not going to get you many dances, especially if you're tipping the dancers, tipping on stage, etc. Some guys don't know this when they come in and really enjoy themselves so they have to go to the ATM. But regular customers will often come with $600-1,000 in cash. Honestly though if you're gonna spend that much money I wouldn't think the ATM would really be THAT big a deal. I would be more concerned about having all that cash.

    As for not getting paid, it's a customer by customer thing and entirely depends on how much money we're talking about. If a customer is doing a VIP he's paying beforehand unless he's a regular who the bouncers know. If it's just dance by dance I try to judge the customer but it's hard. You have to decide whether or not you want to possibly ruin the mood by having them go to the ATM-- there's a very good chance once they step out of the booth and go across the room that they're going to change their mind, either because they're insulted you don't trust them or once their horny mood dims a little how much money they're spending hits them--or if the customer is sketchy and you might end up dancing for free (or worse, the club is gonna charge you for the dancers anyway so now you're paying to dance for that customer). It's honestly the hardest thing to judge at my work and it's very frustrating. Same thing goes with the, do I tell you after each song you want a new one? Obviously everyone wants to get paid, but sometimes we're talking about the difference between making $40 and $400. And sometimes I'm dealing with this issue with multiple customers in one night.

    I've actually never had a customer who went to the ATM and couldn't get money out. They usually object on some kind of fucked up moral basis that they've created in their mind, like me and the bouncers are conspiring against them and overcharging them or I didn't give them a "real" lap dance (i.e. they had some kind of extra in mind and it didn't happen). Perhaps they're just trying to save face, but I will say that I rarely ask for money up front and only once have I ever been fucked out of a large amount of cash ($280). Ironically it's usually small amounts that they refuse to pay.

    As far as letting guys go out of the club to visit the cheaper ATM and then come back and pay? I've only done that once and the bouncer walked the guy there... he said it was a long, awkward walk.

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    Exorbitant ATM fees in the SC environment never made sense to me. In a cash business, it would seem wise to provide customers with easy, convenient, and inexpensive access to cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcdon View Post
    Exorbitant ATM fees in the SC environment never made sense to me. In a cash business, it would seem wise to provide customers with easy, convenient, and inexpensive access to cash.
    That sort of logic really has nothing to do with the strip club business model. It's all about making money-as much money as possible. In any way possible. They would charge you for straws in your drink and make them mandatory if they thought they could get away with it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    That sort of logic really has nothing to do with the strip club business model. It's all about making money-as much money as possible. In any way possible. They would charge you for straws in your drink and make them mandatory if they thought they could get away with it...
    That pretty much sums up the industry. In IL the laws are restrictive around Chicago. The nude clubs within city limits can't serve hard liquor. There was a place called Dancers off Rt. 12 we went to for a bachelor party, they said it was Vegas style and the groom to be wanted to try it out. Two drink minimum!! 8 bucks per glass. I watched the server grab 4 8oz Rocks glasses filled with crushed ice, open a can of Coke, and pour the one can into the 4 glasses. For the next round we said No Ice and were told that wasn't allowed.

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    I'm a fan of the ATMs and I really don't care what they get charged either. Long as I get my money. I'm not there to feel bad for them.

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    My last club charged $20 PER $100 over the bar EFT.
    Funny money was charged at 20% to the customer and then once dancer cashed in, another 15%. And they wonder why they lost their highspend/business clientele.

    Dancers were told to stop letting customers know about the ATM in 7/11 upstairs, the goodwill from the customers was worth it though, even if we all lost dances occasionally or had to wait for awhile.
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