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    Most clubbers are perfectly aware of the exorbitant ATM fees and most are not happy to pay them.

    Reasons I’ve used a club ATM:

    + I used to walk into SCs w/ just $200 (just for getting LDs; I’m not into extras) – I figured the more I walked in w/ the more I would spend – but every now and then I found myself having a good time and $200 was not enough (now I usually will walk in with at least $300 and sometimes $400 in I’m feeling extra horny)

    + I don’t like carrying a couple of hundred on me at any one time – I’m a bit absent minded and would hate to accidentally lose a couple of hundred (or have it stolen from me at the club w/o me noticing – it happens)

    + if I’m heading to the club from someplace else other than home; I may not know of my bank’s branch nearby or it my not be convenient to get there (may be out of the way)

    + if it’s late at night; I don’t really want to be going up to an ATM w/ no one around except some dude looking to hold somebody up

    EVERYTHING is expensive in SCs – cover; parking; drinks; dances; VIP; etc. – thus an expensive ATM fee is part and parcel of the game – a custy whom is going to sweat the ATM fee will probably sweat all the other SC costs and not be a serious SC customer and will probably not be visiting SCs often

    Hasn’t a dancer ever used an ATM other than their bank’s and get charged a fee; e.g. at a bar, restaurant; mall, amusement park, etc? Pretty much the same thing applies w.r.t. a custy at the SC – he wants to keep on partying and thus does not mind getting extra $$$

    When you see a custy being led by the dancer to the ATM; that is not the worse thing that can happen – it often means the dancer did a good job and the custy was enjoying himself beyond what he was expecting to spend – both parties got what they wanted. And it’s def in a dancer’s interest custies do this “in the heat of the moment” – if he takes the 15 min drive to the ATM OTC; he may change his mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi_Chulo View Post
    EVERYTHING is expensive in SCs – cover; parking; drinks; dances; VIP; etc. – thus an expensive ATM fee is part and parcel of the game – a custy whom is going to sweat the ATM fee will probably sweat all the other SC costs and not be a serious SC customer and will probably not be visiting SCs often
    I can't really agree with this at all. I spend plenty of money in the clubs, I'm a fairly frequent visitor and I have been for about half of my life. I simply refuse to burn an extra $10 or more every time I want $200 of my own money out of a an overpriced ATM machine when it's very easy to just walk in with what I plan to spend in the first place. I buy dances, I buy drinks and I tip at the stage. Those are all endeavors that bring me pleasure. I don't buy flowers, shots or back rubs though I have been known to tip a few rub girls that I have gotten to know well. I don't buy club funny money or use club ATM's. I rarely go to clubs that don't have free parking and I don't tip toilet trolls if I can possibly avoid them. I spend my money where it does me and the dancers the most good.
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    They would charge you for straws in your drink and make them mandatory if they thought they could get away with it...
    Yup! Some club owner reading this right now is calling the board of health to make that an ordinance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I can't really agree with this at all. I spend plenty of money in the clubs, I'm a fairly frequent visitor and I have been for about half of my life. I simply refuse to burn an extra $10 or more every time I want $200 of my own money out of a an overpriced ATM machine when it's very easy to just walk in with what I plan to spend in the first place. I buy dances, I buy drinks and I tip at the stage. Those are all endeavors that bring me pleasure. I don't buy flowers, shots or back rubs though I have been known to tip a few rub girls that I have gotten to know well. I don't buy club funny money or use club ATM's. I rarely go to clubs that don't have free parking and I don't tip toilet trolls if I can possibly avoid them. I spend my money where it does me and the dancers the most good.
    Well are you spending a LOT of money at the club? I'm just curious because even the regulars that I have right now that have been coming to my club for years and years and know about the ridiculous ATM/credit card fees still continue to use their ATM/credit card. Honestly it's pretty rare that I have a customer who doesn't go the ATM, but it is also pretty rare that I have a customer who spends less than $160. Sometimes I will have someone have half in cash and have to go the ATM for the rest, but the only guys who really come in with enough cash to pay for all their dances are foreigners. Of course there are the odd customers (I had one tonight) who come in with a stack of hundreds, but I just feel credit card/ATM has become the norm at this point. If I was to go through all my customers that I danced with on Saturday I would say about 80% either used the ATM or put it on their credit card.

    Honestly the ATM/credit card fees hurt the dancers as well though, it's just so goddamn STUPID. I had a customer come in on Saturday who spend about $260 and he had a great time and said he wanted to give me a tip, but when he came back from the ATM machine he was red in face, pissed that he had been charged a $26 fee and gave me $24 and snapped that he was going to tip me $50 but now that he had been charged a fee he wasn't going to. And then when it comes to a customer using a credit card... the club that I first worked at (no longer there thank Christ) used to charge the dancers a 10% fee on funny money (which meant you had to get them to tip you just to not lose money on the transaction) and they wouldn't always cash them out for you that night. But, would I ever want to work at a club that didn't have an ATM machine or take credit cards? Fuck no! I can almost always get paid this way and it's much easier for me to get someone to do a $2000+ transaction when they can just put it on a credit card (or get a $500+ tip).

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    It's not really about how much I spend it's how I choose to spend it. I work hard for my money and while I don't mind spending it to entertain myself with the company of a beautiful woman I refuse to simply open a window and throw cash out of that window. As far as I'm concerned that's what using any ATM with a high fee is doing-throwing money away-because there is simply no reason for it. I walk into a club with between $500 and $600 in my wallet. It costs me nothing to withdraw that money form my bank's ATM machine or any other bank's ATM since my bank refunds the fee that other banks charge. If I walk into the club with no cash and hit the club ATM a few times (since most club ATM's ave a $200 limit in my area) I could end up spending $20 or $30 in fees. Why would I do that again?

    I fully understand why clubs have ATM's and, quite frankly, I think it's crazy NOT to have them. I just won't use them.
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    I guess some are more willing to pay for convenience than others.

    Someone mentioned before the idea of paying fees pretty much many places besides strip club ATM.

    I think we all have paid for convenience at some point. Is it wise financially? Probably not but if if didn't help in some way then there wouldn't be people out there using sc ATMs or paying fees elsewhere. And if you're in the moment those impulse purchases more likely take place without too much though to one time fees.

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    ^Well I guess it also depends how often you go to a strip club! If you only go once every couple months, or once every six months, then the ATM fee probably isn't that big a deal.

    Really though strip club fees are just insane! I had a customer do 3 VIPS last night so he spent $1800 and the credit card fee was $180.... that's just CRAZY!

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    Have seen guys to to an ATM after a VIP and come back to me and want to buy my panties a few times!! not admitting anything though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    ^Well I guess it also depends how often you go to a strip club! If you only go once every couple months, or once every six months, then the ATM fee probably isn't that big a deal.

    Really though strip club fees are just insane! I had a customer do 3 VIPS last night so he spent $1800 and the credit card fee was $180.... that's just CRAZY!
    Would have been $360 at Dreams (in Melbourne), and they wonder why their patronage has steadily declined and dissipated to nothing.
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    ^$360? So they charge 20%? Christ...

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    AudreyK, + 15% out of the dancers cut if they pay on CC. Also included is a $50 cash fee for every 30min VIP booking on top of all the previous charges......

    and they kept on telling us guys didn't care about the charges if we, the dancers, made them not care. um how?!

    There is such a thing as too far and they lost all of their corporate clientele because of excessive charges, then they lost their best dancers, then they hired average dancers, who further drove down the market... you see where I'm heading?
    We were told to stop telling them about the ATM upstairs at 7/11 but I felt it was worth it for the goodwill and usually extra $.

    (sorry this is basically my previous post again).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabletalker View Post
    I've never used a club's ATM and I don't intend to. For me it's a self-control thing: I budget for a certain spend and don't go beyond it.

    Same here. Been clubbing for more than 2 decades. Go frequently, 2-4 times per month. Have never used a club's ATM. I bring what I think I'm going to spend, with some contingency. Typically bring about $300 on the visits I know a fave will be there and I'll be doing a VIP or similar. If I know 2 will be there, it could be $400 or so. Sometimes (more often then I'd like) I'll max it out, sometimes I'll go home having not spent nearly the whole amount.

    As someone mentioned because I go so often, I don't get caught up in the moment. There's always the next time. If the girl is not there next time then it's fate and I'll find another one.

    Some of us are planners. Some of us are spur of the moment, let's see what happens. We're all different.

    Never purchased funny money either. That's typically even worse of a deal, for both parties.

    Only scenario I would see for me to do the club ATM is if I completely forgot to "restock" my wallet. Or couldn't find a working ATM. Knowing me I'd be persistent to find one and, unfortunately, cut back on the length of my club visit as a result.

    The only other I can think of is if I ran into a long lost fave. And she tells me she's just here for the night and I'll never see her again. Even if it was BS I'm a trusting type, people are innocent until proven guilty etc. So in that case, for old times sakes, I MIGHT hit up the ATM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickdreams View Post
    AudreyK, + 15% out of the dancers cut if they pay on CC. Also included is a $50 cash fee for every 30min VIP booking on top of all the previous charges......

    and they kept on telling us guys didn't care about the charges if we, the dancers, made them not care. um how?!

    There is such a thing as too far and they lost all of their corporate clientele because of excessive charges, then they lost their best dancers, then they hired average dancers, who further drove down the market... you see where I'm heading?
    We were told to stop telling them about the ATM upstairs at 7/11 but I felt it was worth it for the goodwill and usually extra $.

    (sorry this is basically my previous post again).
    Yeah, we have an ATM pretty close by us but I get nervous sending guys there. I've sent a few there and they never came back, lol.

    Honestly it's just silly to have these excessive charges. The first club I ever worked at really pushed us to sell drinks. There were $40 drinks there, and mind you this was a nude CA club, so no alcohol. $40 for a water. At that point it's just insulting to the customer because the fact that you're ripping them off is just too blatant!

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    I recently had a pretty bad experience with a club ATM. The fee was 7 dollars per use, but the limit of withdrawal was only 100! After doing it twice, there was a customer behind me who was like "Dude, really?!" I decided to let him withdraw (he withdrew about 60 bucks...go figure). After he was done, I did my third withdrawal and firmly decided from that point on that I would never use a club ATM ever again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sansonnet View Post
    Some customers probably do bring a set of money, but if they're drunk and need more money from the ATM they're not going to worry too much about the high fees.
    Exactly. If an atm fee is a worry of his then he shouldn't be in there. It's like going into a LV store. If you have to ask for the price, then you shouldn't be in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FasaCorp View Post
    I recently had a pretty bad experience with a club ATM. The fee was 7 dollars per use, but the limit of withdrawal was only 100! After doing it twice, there was a customer behind me who was like "Dude, really?!" I decided to let him withdraw (he withdrew about 60 bucks...go figure). After he was done, I did my third withdrawal and firmly decided from that point on that I would never use a club ATM ever again.
    TBH, that's the big minus on ATM's - it's not just the fees, it's the capped maxes you see. I can go to a real ATM and get $600, $800 - whatever. $100-200 goes NOWHERE in a SC - wait, it goes somewhere, it just doesn't last that long (wait...nah, too much too soon). Honestly, if I'm going to the ATM, it's not for $100. That pisses me off no end.

    (And yes, bring the $, and spend to your limit....but there is the odd bucket-list dancer experience we've all had 1x in our lives).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    Exactly. If an atm fee is a worry of his then he shouldn't be in there. It's like going into a LV store. If you have to ask for the price, then you shouldn't be in there.
    I wouldn't say an ATM fee is a worry, I just consider myself to be a responsible spender. Of course, sometimes you walk into a club and meet that special woman who can get you to act in a very irresponsible manner....
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    ATM fees are ridiculous. Better to bring more than enough cash next time!
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    The only time I use ATMs at strip clubs is when girls just really know how to hustle and get me to spend a lot more than what I was planning. Some girls just know how to do that

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    Add me to the list with Yoda, 59, etc - I bring what I'm going to spend, and to a certain extent, even pre-plan "other" tips and costs (drinks, bartenders and waitresses, toilet trolls, etc) and separate that money from my "stripper money". There have been times when I've made the DECISION to go to the ATM - but I always tell the dancer that the $200 (ATM limit) that I'm pulling out is all the extra she's gonna get because I'm not paying that asinine fee more than once.

    Interesting side note - in my REALLY "regular" days when I was at the club almost every day, a few of my regular girls would extend me "credit" for a couple of dances if I didn't have much on me that night, because they knew I'd be back. They got tipped more than the equivalent ATM fee, too, lol.

    I really think club owners have gone too far with the fees, and not just on ATM's. I think if a lot of clubs halved their fees they'd actually get more revenue because guys wouldn't be so inclined to watch their cash so hard. If club ATM fees were $5 or the "usual" $1.50-$2.50, I would use them far more frequently. I would also be inclined to use credit cards and avail myself of other services a lot more without the crazy fees attached (as it is, the words "never once" comes to mind).

    As for the club in CA charging $40 for water - yeah. Two different clubs in CA I've walked in, been told the various rip-offs, and walked right back out, eating the door charge and all. In both cases I told them exactly how much money I had intended to spend on dances and drinks that they would not be getting from me. One of those two clubs immediately offered me 2 free drinks and a dance voucher to come back in. One did not. One got the rest of my money, the other did not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFMNH44 View Post
    I once left the BodyShop in Hollywood to visit an ATM, the bouncer wouldn't let me back in without paying a huge sum, his 'back-up' some dude in a trench coat was approaching from the shadows, so I booked it.
    They do this to prevent customers from getting their drink on in the car. I've never worked at the club mentioned, but this was the reason for the high priced re-entry fee at other clubs I've worked for.

    I have a square account and will help customers avoid the 'walk of shame' to the atm. I also charge a service fee to cover my own expenses, but it is cheaper than buying the club's funny money. I use an anonymous name with my account (like World Wide Consulting) so that a quick glance at the statement doesn't make it obvious what has been purchased.

    For other dancers, get your club's ok before just assuming it is ok to use a square account to charge lap dances. My club would like to phase out the funny money entirely (problems of not enough cash on hand to pay the dancers at the end of a shift) and welcomes my method. Not every club is going to feel the same way.

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    ^ In fact, some clubs will fire you for doing that! So yeah, absolutely get their ok before using it.

    I wish I could use one. Ugh. I bet you I'd make so much more money without having to drag customers through the hassle of ATM/funny money.

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    I thought the fees for Colorado strip clubs were high, but from what I've read on this thread, they are a bargain. At the club I visit, there is a $5.50 charge for withdrawing up to $200, and I don't mind paying it. I go the club, I have a range of money I expect to spend. For me it works best to bring the money I need to get started. When my favorite is working her magic, I'm going to spend whatever I brought . If we are having a super hot time, and she does not have a lot of other regulars waiting, I use the ATM to refresh my wallet. The fees are just part of the package.

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    What about the people who aren't wasted on booze who still get trapped into an ATM situation?
    I think there's a 2nd kind of intoxication at play here.
    Some people can't handle their liquor, and some can't handle their lapdances without being reduced into a moronic state where they're really helpless instead of just turned on, and they can't keep a lid on the spending anymore because they're past the point of no return (they no longer have that shutdown ability that lets the rest of us snap back to reality when we've reached our spending limit).
    Or people aren't as aware of the fact that they're in a crotch fight for their wallet, so it takes them a while to catch on to how they're being taken for more of a ride than they intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boob View Post
    Some people can't handle their liquor, and some can't handle their lapdances without being reduced into a moronic state where they're really helpless instead of just turned on, and they can't keep a lid on the spending anymore because they're past the point of no return (they no longer have that shutdown ability that lets the rest of us snap back to reality when we've reached our spending limit).
    Or people aren't as aware of the fact that they're in a crotch fight for their wallet, so it takes them a while to catch on to how they're being taken for more of a ride than they intended.
    I'm a nice person, and I really hate to see someone getting ripped off in the club but seriously? This is just a girl who is good at her job.
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