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    Dizzy Why am I sooo upset?!

    When I first started camming about 6 months ago I was amazed that anyone would pay so much to see me naked! And making 35.00 a hour was like a dream come true! It was as much as a Dental Hygienist (which is what I was planning on going to college for). Now my average weekly hourly wage is around 50.00+ ( I only work about 12-20 hours).. but then came this week.. I still averaged 65.00 a hour for the week as a total but that was only because I had a couple LOOONG exclusives (what if I didn't get those!!). The rest of my shifts were soooo slow and I made around less then 30.00 a hour.. if that. It FREAKS me out soo much when I am having a slow day and when it is a couple slow days in a row it is even worse! I mean why am I so afraid? 30.00 a hour is still good.. but I fucking hate making that little... I really have to remind myself that I was making 13.00 a hour at my Vanilla job just 6 months ago and that I shouldn't frown upon 30.00.. ARRG.

    Have I just gotten used to making a high hourly wage and now I don't know a good thing when it hits me?? I mean I feel like I should be jumping for the roof to be making 30.00 a hour..

    Does anyone else feel this way?

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    Yes today was a slow day and I am going crazy lol Cuz yesterday I was making $50 an hour and now I can barely get a damn gold show started! I need to work on appreciating the fact that I get to work when I want and if I want for as long as I want. And the $30 an hour I made today was still really awesome compared to my minimum wage job I had a year ago.

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    It's very mentally and physically demanding and we risk a lot for this job. It's not so easy to stay in free chat for 8 hours, performing and trying to look good all that time. I got really excited at first until I realized how mentally exhausting it really is.



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    Agreed. It is very exhausting and the constantly answering the same questions gets old lol

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    Default Re: Why am I sooo upset?!

    It may also be the feeling of instability that freaks you out. It certainly makes me uneasy... even though I know that I can pay my bills and be fine by working enough hours those great nights can be hard to remember when it feels like I can't get a private to save my life. It makes me feel... unsafe, I guess.

    At most jobs $35/hr is $35/hr. At our job it bounces all over the place and that can be scary.


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    Default Re: Why am I sooo upset?!

    often times january tends to be a slow month. You can still make money but in general around the monh of january it slows down a bit and then picks back up toward the end of the month or the begining of the next month.

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    You're responding normally to this situation. It is HARD to make the transition from a steady paying job where you know exactly what your paycheck will be to something that fluctuates (sometimes seemingly without reason) and budgeting differently. Trust me, I've done both many, many times in different careers. You can/will experience some great highs and great lows. Stay with it, and you may start lowering the pressure on yourself. However, remember that never knowing what your paycheck will be can be difficult (OR if you get the attitude, it can get you really aggressively motivated!)

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    I totally understand where you're coming from. I am about to quit my shitty vanilla job which I HATE, they fucked me over for a promotion I was promised and some other bullshit happened today so Ive decided Im out. The fear of doing camming fulltime and not making money is the thing that holds me back. But I have ordered a Logitech C920 and an HP i7 laptop which are on their way in the mail in the upcoming weeks. Once I have all of the good equipment and Im not using this horrible i3 and Logitech C510 Im quitting my vanilla job and going all in. Still super nervous though!!!

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    I've been camming 13 yrs, trust me when I say.....this is normal, I will not lie and tell you ladies the only real thing that scared me was the poor economy. I use to make 400 to 700 a day doing Indy. I miss those days. So the major changes I've seen are:

    MFC> New way of doing cam.
    Porn Stars> wow, u know they got hit hard to live up on cam.
    economy

    I worked as a make up artist for 15 yrs. Standing, back hurts from doing make up all day long, drive to work in bad weather, for less than 35$ per hr.


    Thank god people like interacting!
    Good luck, u girls got this.
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    Great Thread! Thanks for starting this. What everyone has said, have been my thoughts for sometime now. I think back to how I could always depend on a paycheck with bonus' in my corporate job, and even in the part time sales job I had to take because camming is so unpredictable.
    It is a 'head' trip, for sure, to never know what You will make every time you turn on the cam. Or what You will be faced with when You read what people write in Your chat.
    Bad days are, for me, discouraging for the next day, when I should be excited. I've always hated Saturday afternoons, and Had a rough one yesterday with 8 hrs. on cam to make pay cut-off , and little to show for it.
    hard to get on today, because I'm not feeling it.
    I was a makeup artist also, like Lexxi, many moons ago, and remember my back always hurting, and even though the pay was good, I hated dealing with celebrity, and models attitudes. At least with camming, there is a block button.

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    I think its normal for you to feel this way, when you get used to that certain amount of money hourly you get disappointed when its lower than that.
    I never make less than $300 each time i go on cam. But I usually make around 500-1000 each time I go on so when i make 300 i tend to get a little sad and start doubting myself but I try to remind myself that i am very lucky and there is so many people out there that is working hard and not making nearly as much.

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    Honestly, I notice I make more money when I only stay on cam 2 hours at a time. I can give my all and stay happy for that long and it helps a lot. I don't know how some girls can cam all day and still make money. I know my face loses interest after a while and it shows.

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    before you feel too 'guilty' about earning $30+ per hour by camming, keep in mind that ...

    - with a vanilla job you would be building a work history and seniority benefits. With camming, you're creating a big 'blank' in terms of work history you want to tell future vanilla employers about.

    - with a vanilla job you would be building 'references' that could help you regarding future career advancement opportunities. With camming, you're building a 'paper trail' as well as an online 'library' containing any number of 'adult' images of yourself, which could hurt your future vanilla career opportunities.

    - with a vanilla job, you could potentially keep working for 40+ years until retirement age. With camming, after some number of years, you're most likely going to face a situation of being too 'old' to continue to be an effective webcam earner ... but still being 20 years short of being eligible for retirement benefits.

    Bottom line is that dancing and camming 'seem' like great earnings opportunities when you're 20. But they both extract a 'price' ( lost opportunity cost, actually ) when you're 40. To equal that out, it's necessary to put aside a fair amount of your high earnings during those 'productive' years to make up for the 'disadvantages' you will face between the point where you retire from dancing or camming and the point when you are eligible to receive retirement benefits. So from that viewpoint, between additional self-employment taxes and setting money aside to make up for the 'disadvantages' to come later, that $30+ per hour actually winds up being more like a $15 per hour vanilla job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    before you feel too 'guilty' about earning $30+ per hour by camming, keep in mind that ...

    - with a vanilla job you would be building a work history and seniority benefits. With camming, you're creating a big 'blank' in terms of work history you want to tell future vanilla employers about.

    - with a vanilla job you would be building 'references' that could help you regarding future career advancement opportunities. With camming, you're building a 'paper trail' as well as an online 'library' containing any number of 'adult' images of yourself, which could hurt your future vanilla career opportunities.

    - with a vanilla job, you could potentially keep working for 40+ years until retirement age. With camming, after some number of years, you're most likely going to face a situation of being too 'old' to continue to be an effective webcam earner ... but still being 20 years short of being eligible for retirement benefits.

    Bottom line is that dancing and camming 'seem' like great earnings opportunities when you're 20. But they both extract a 'price' ( lost opportunity cost, actually ) when you're 40. To equal that out, it's necessary to put aside a fair amount of your high earnings during those 'productive' years to make up for the 'disadvantages' you will face between the point where you retire from dancing or camming and the point when you are eligible to receive retirement benefits. So from that viewpoint, between additional self-employment taxes and setting money aside to make up for the 'disadvantages' to come later, that $30+ per hour actually winds up being more like a $15 per hour vanilla job.
    Best advice I needed to remember. I had a vanilla job for over 20 years! Zoo's and animal compounds etc. I will collect on all them when I retire. Now I work cam. I remember when I was in my 20's and doing cam on dial up part time. It was mad money! Now, I am not even in my 40's but above. I noticed that I still make what I need, can run with the best of the young ones, but at a higher price.... doing more in a show. I can no longer sit there and look pretty and hit tons of privates, I have to work now. More makeup, better hair takes longer if I really want to hang at the top. Hard work. Lots of energy. Doable, but tough.
    Also as I have seen the cam world change, I have no fear. I cater to a ton of Cougar, MILFS, GILFS and mommy roles just fine in a private. These guys used to be rare as it seemed far to taboo back then. Now it's a huge selling point in the cam world. Thank Goodness.

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    In my experience, the J months suck. January, everyone is recover from the holidays and starting their taxes. June and July, It's getting nice out and people are spending more time with friends and family. Make sure you aren't having connection or streaming issues (I've seen so many ladies realize this was their problem). If your feed is fine, keep your smile on and work it. Tweak your routine if you think you should. Aiming for $50 + an hour is a good thing. I don't think you should be happy making less, even if it is $35 an hour, but accept that you can't 100% control your income. Some money is better than no money. Just remember, that even front page girls are going to have a bad day or two once in a while. Here's some proof:

    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...ow-quot-Thread!
    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...ow-quot-Thread

    Both are always on the first page, and have new posts almost daily. Our incomes aren't guaranteed. So it's important to save on the days you do well, so that the days you do bad don't hurt as much. If it's a really bad day, take a moment to think about the pros and cons. I bet the list of pros makes you smile and outweighs the cons!

    Luck and $$ sweetie!

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    Don't ever feel BAD for making a lot of money. I used to let myself think..."Oh, boohoo, I cannot believe I get sad about making ____ a day when I was working two jobs and barely getting by, and had no freedom......."

    DON'T think like that. Just work and work and don't go back to that shitty lifestyle of living paycheck to paycheck. That is the worst way to live...don't even put it in your realm anymore. I will not get back to that point ever because I refuse to...... I don't even think like that anymore. Just focus on taking what this industry has to offer NOW.

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    @ SweetPinkCupcake: awesome advice. I really think the sex industry is about moving up, not maintaining a status quo like many people feel coerced into doing. I also refuse to allow fear to rule my life, ie play by the rules or allow doubt to govern my thoughts to the point of considering "eventually" returning to crap jobs again.

    This industry is largely ruled by magic (seduction, dance, power of belief), metaphysics, the laws of nature, and human behavior and since these subjects aren't really acknowledged in mainstream society, things can get chaotic!

    I think that when we have the courage to continue through rough times, it makes a huge impact on our character in ways that pay off in many aspects of life and prosperity is sure to follow, albeit not always instantly or expectedly!

    We left vanilla work BECAUSE of the predictability, so why wish for it back? We are all better than wage slavery.
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    I feel the same way. I usually make $100 a day, and if I make less, I get upset. Sometimes if I just make $100 I get upset! The days I made $150+ make me think I can do that every day. But the thing about it is that it all depends.
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    Well ladies I just quit my vanilla job today. Got a i7 computer and a Logitech c920 on it's way from eBay.
    Using an i3 and the Logitech c510 right now. It's not the worst and I usually average $25 a hour which is more than my vanilla job.. Still pretty nervous about my earnings since it's not guaranteed but here goes nothing
    Don't mean to thread jack( I didn't want to create my own thread just for this) but figured this was appropriate here as we are talking about earnings compared to vanilla jobs. The job I just quit was $11.30 an hour so I'm really hoping I can keep myself in the mindset where as long as it's over $11.30/hr I'm making camming I'm happy...

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    It happens. I rage quit the other day because it was slow. Then looked back and smacked myself in the head because I was making on average about 39 an hour. My thinking at the time was there was one big spender and he was basically spent-- but looking back- I should have stuck it out for another hour and maybe gotten more spenders etc.

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    I agree that we have a hard job. I have been doing cam shows here and there for fun while working, on and off for the last 5 years. Since October, I've been strictly just going to school and camming for Imlive. It honestly isn't always easy work. I have days where I'm lucky to make 20 bucks in 5 hours on a dead night. Which lets be honest, is ALWAYS heartbreaking. It's not so bad when you're in that mood, to flirt, to smile, to play along like you don't have a care in the world. But it's really hard when you've had a long day, and you just have to keep on smiling. Then you have those days when you make BANK with minimal effort and you get pumped up to work, then it's a downer when you don't make half of what you made yesterday.

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    I never break it down to an hourly wage. I set a daily goal & work until I make it. It all fluctuates.

    Yes, there are benefits to a so-called regular job but NOT these days with down sizing & companies going under there are NO MORE job security in today's world. I disagree with Melanie on this subject.

    The old thinking of getting a job, saving up a retirement, buying a home. Landed many bankrupt, out of work & upside down on their homes. There is no such thing as job security & retiring after putting in your time at a company these days. This is a falsehood sold to us all for many years & it does NOT exist anymore.

    Life is a risk.

    Negativity leads to bad days at work. I used to work in a corporate world & make $400 to $600 a week as a salary, now I pull that in daily for a few hours of work. I will NEVER complain about this job.

    Instead of bitching, up your hustle.

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    I certainly understand ur pain ut camming is not a predictable job.......good days, bad days, holidays, football games.....u name it.
    Camming is hard work, unbelievable hustle and always a sexy smile. I admit, I can't cam full time as my patience wears thin w the "freeloaders" and the related BS. My goal is to work smarter not harder......this works for me!

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    You're upset because you're struggling between deciding if this is worth the investment and sacrifice. It's a grueling job.

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    I too don't calculate my hourly. I choose a monthly, weekly, and daily goal and make sure I stay on long enough to make it. It makes things more simple for me because some days are $50+ hourly, and some days are $25. That would drive me nutters and make me feel inadequate so as long as I make my chosen goals, I'm a happy gal. Matter of fact, my goal is around $35k in 157 days, working 10 hours a day. If I did that, my hourly average would be $22. That makes me cry right there but $22 an hour is better than the $7.25 that is the current minimum wage for a lot of states in the US. In order to raise it, I will probably advertise so I can make the most of my money.
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