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    So last night I had an outcall bodyrub call...I walk in, and literally right after greetings were exchanged, he asks me whether I'd be taking off all my clothes, including my panties, and then asks what "services" I'd give him. The tone in which he said that sounded very...rehearsed.

    I didn't answer the questions, I just excused myself to the restroom, and I noticed that despite claiming to have been in town for a few days, the bathroom was absolutely spotless, as was the sleeping area. I don't mean just clean and tidy (that could've just been recent maid service).... I mean that there were absolutely none of his personal care products, toothbrush, luggage, etc....anywhere.

    The only evidence of human activity was the presence of LOTS of takeout containers and beverages - some full, including a bunch of empty containers/bottles in the garbage. Oh, and he had a small briefcase. Certainly not enough to pack luggage.

    Perhaps he eats/drinks a LOT of takeout, and they've accumulated over the few days he claimed to be in town. But then if maids came in and made everything else spotless, why didn't they get the garbage?

    Final straw was when I was in the bathroom and overheard him talking quietly on the phone, and I thought I heard him say "she's here". That could've been my imagination, but I wasn't going to take any chances...

    I quickly grabbed my coat and apologetically told him I had to leave due to an emergency that just came up.

    He even *looked* and talked like a cop...lol. I know that's not a valid point, but it didn't help ease my suspicions.

    Are these red flags of LE, or did I jump the gun? I've done bodyrub for a while, and never have all these red flags shown up. This is the first time I ever got spooked like that...

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    Default Re: Could he have been LE? Or am I just paranoid?

    I'm just a cam girl but from the sound of that he might have been. It's always best to go with your gut feeling. If it sounds/feels wrong - it probably is!

    Good thing you left.
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    Default Re: Could he have been LE? Or am I just paranoid?

    I've only stripped but it sounds to me like he was a cop, particularly because he asked for clarification on the transaction right when you got there. Better safe than sorry! Good for you for leaving.

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    Default Re: Could he have been LE? Or am I just paranoid?

    No,you are not paranoid. Most people get in trouble because they don't listen to their inner voice. In life my motto is "When in doubt- don't". I also believe "Better safe than sorry." Whatever that man was up to was really suspect. I'm proud of you for making haste out of there.

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    Default Re: Could he have been LE? Or am I just paranoid?

    Im a body rubber and yup he sounds really strange. I agree with Redwine - follow your intuition.

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    Default Re: Could he have been LE? Or am I just paranoid?

    He does sound suspicious, but if he were a cop, I believe you would have been arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikkidarling View Post
    He does sound suspicious, but if he were a cop, I believe you would have been arrested.
    Oh wow...that's scary. I mean for all he knew, I could have just been there to give him a shoulder rub.

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    ^^Right. Aren't bodyrubs illegal without a massage license in the first place? If he were a cop he would have tried to get you to agree to sexual services to bump up the charge, but probably could have arrested you either way.

    If he wasn't a cop it was probably even better for you to have gotten out of there once you felt a bad vibe though. Something far worse than being arrested could have happened.

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    This is something I always wondered---so if a guy ends up being a cop, and before you do anything, can you just like...RUN? Or no matter WHAT, are you getting arrested? Like, if he was a cop, would they have ran after her?

    Also, anytime I had a guy that talked about money and services, I just have always looked at them and never answered. I always felt uneasy when guys did that from the start...only a few guys have ever been that stupid.....but weirdly enough, those are the ones that have shorted me. I have not been shorted much, but the only times I have, is when they ask those questions. I said to myself that from now on, when a guy does that, I am going to refuse him. But maybe I was being paranoid. I remember last time I did that, he was just like, a foreign exchange student guy...but he kept on asking questions about what I would do and I kind of yelled at him and turned the call down, then realized I was being too paranoid afterwards.
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    When I used to do body rubs I was told that if you feel/think know he is a cop then give him a shitty massage (no ending of course) there is no where especially in writing that says an ending is going to take place. If they are asking for extra's then yes the are more than likely LE, but there are some guys that have no idea what is going on. If we are on the phone I would play dumb or just hang up. I have never been in a situation like that either. I used to write my ads so only more upscale, experienced men would call. I did incall only. I was also told that if it is a cop if he wants to arrest you he will plain and simple so I'm glad that you did leave/were able to leave. On the contrary a police officer does not have to inform you that he is a cop no matter what people tell you. He will get that hand job/fuck you in a minute and have those handcuffs out quicker than you can pee on yourself!

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    After all that being paranoid also and even followed by a customer once I no longer offer body rubs. I miss the money but just not all the headache. I now just offer massage and do a damn good job. With an hour I do a foot spa treatment (to kill the germs, funk and kill time while chatting him up) then do the massage. I let them take off everything but their undies. For those who think they are smarter than me and quickly remove those undies I place a towel over their lap. Ha! Once on the table I cover his ass when he's on his face and steer clear of the balls. Once I flip him over same thing. Can't pull the wool over my eyes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPinkCupcake View Post
    This is something I always wondered---so if a guy ends up being a cop, and before you do anything, can you just like...RUN? Or no matter WHAT, are you getting arrested? Like, if he was a cop, would they have ran after her?
    LE doesn't conduct these stings alone, so you wouldn't get very far. They may even add "evading arrest" to the charges if you try to flee. Better to stay put and keep your mouth shut. If you walk into a sting, even if you don't do anything or agree to do anything verbally, you will get arrested. Now whether the charges will stick is another story. That's why it's imperative to screen beforehand.

    Quote Originally Posted by MissIesha View Post
    When I used to do body rubs I was told that if you feel/think know he is a cop then give him a shitty massage (no ending of course) there is no where especially in writing that says an ending is going to take place.
    Not necessarily bad advice, but you'd get arrested anyway. As stated by lol1337a, massage without a license is very much illegal. It doesn't matter if you were there to rub his shoulders or feet, you don't have a license to do so. Even if you're licensed to massage, you can still get arrested for massaging the genitals in a sexual manner. In some states the charge is "masturbation for hire."

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    Default Re: Could he have been LE? Or am I just paranoid?

    Nikkidarling I totally agree with you. If the cops are there to bust you that's your ass. But what I meant was yes definitely give them a shitty massage draped or course but stay away from the privates far away, don't even breath on them lol.

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    He could've been LE.But more than likely he was a newbie idiot who didn't know how the lingo goes When you're nervous or adrenaline is rushing you hear all kinds of things sometimes Not saying he didn't say that but ya know when adrenaline is in it your mind's telling you to bend one lol. You did the right thing by leaving because you weren't sure. I'm a fellow bodyrub gal & get quite a few guys that don't know the lingo but I still don't book with them just in case

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    Default Re: Could he have been LE? Or am I just paranoid?

    I'm not an escort, but part of me wonders what would happen if escorting was legal in the U.S.? Like would hotels just start rejecting girls who check in alone? Because I would imagine that the higher end hotels would always be saturated with high end escorts and clients coming in and out.

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    I think you made the right call. When I was a wee thing, I had a bit of a shoplifting problem. Once I didn't listen to my gut. That was the day I got busted. Continue to trust yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    I'm not an escort, but part of me wonders what would happen if escorting was legal in the U.S.? Like would hotels just start rejecting girls who check in alone? Because I would imagine that the higher end hotels would always be saturated with high end escorts and clients coming in and out.
    I really don't think that making it legal would bring in an influx of women. Some would enter but then some would leave. The dynamics would change and the money would change. The traffic of men would not be noticeable enough to cause a problem. High end workers and client thrive on discretion. Beautiful classy women are always welcome places in life. Years ago when I needed money, I would work the hotels once a month every now and then. I would get all my bill money in one evening and enjoy or save my vanilla money the rest of the month. I did not have my own room. I used to think the hotels just thought I was a thirsty, horny business woman, now I think they knew better.

    I will say that I was encouraged to hang out there. There was one very high end place where management would comp my food, meals and parking. I was there for happy hour *wink wink*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsession91 View Post
    He could've been LE.But more than likely he was a newbie idiot who didn't know how the lingo goes When you're nervous or adrenaline is rushing you hear all kinds of things sometimes Not saying he didn't say that but ya know when adrenaline is in it your mind's telling you to bend one lol. You did the right thing by leaving because you weren't sure. I'm a fellow bodyrub gal & get quite a few guys that don't know the lingo but I still don't book with them just in case
    I didn't feel like reliving this when I fist saw this thread but, I had two close calls. I said I was there to dance not body rub. Both times the guys asked direct questions about services. It wasn't about lingo, cause I didn't know lingo either. LOL! When I didn't answer them, they became upset with me. I kept saying " I'm just here to dance". They wouldn't touch me. Both times I was eventually told that I could go and I was paid full price for haggling with them. I never undressed. The calls were a long time apart and I am sure they were unrelated.

    On the second call, I hung outside the door and listened. I could hear him talking on the radio or the phone. I knew by what he said that he was LE.

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    I think that if escorting was legal, prices would go sooo down that there would be no escorting in nicer hotels. /threadjack

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedWine View Post
    I really don't think that making it legal would bring in an influx of women. Some would enter but then some would leave. The dynamics would change and the money would change. The traffic of men would not be noticeable enough to cause a problem. High end workers and client thrive on discretion. Beautiful classy women are always welcome places in life. Years ago when I needed money, I would work the hotels once a month every now and then. I would get all my bill money in one evening and enjoy or save my vanilla money the rest of the month. I did not have my own room. I used to think the hotels just thought I was a thirsty, horny business woman, now I think they knew better.

    I will say that I was encouraged to hang out there. There was one very high end place where management would comp my food, meals and parking. I was there for happy hour *wink wink*
    Honestly though, I feel like there are SO MANY single moms who would totally do it if they knew it was legal and wouldn't risk them being put in jail unable to care for their child. I know a lot of women say they would ~*never*~ do sexwork, but I feel like it is out of jealousy they say that and a lot would do it secretly if they could 100% get away with it, which they could if it was legal.

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    You did the right thing. When in any doubt just walk out.

    Cops often use that set-up : Get a cheap motel room , no luggage , no toiletries in the bathroom , eating take out food etc. The gals come in on out-calls, they are caught on tape agreeing to have sex for money and they are arrested. According to your story , he had nothing on you - zip , zero, nada and the case would have been very easy to beat albeit expensive. Who was he talking to on the phone ? His mom ? Definitely looks like you had a close call. Try to learn from it.

    Screen your clients ladies and then screen them some more.
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    I'm not experienced in body rubs, but I would just like to say that if you are ever confronted by confirmed law enforcement and they threaten you, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. Ask if you are being detained, and if so, what specifically are you being charged with? As long as you have been smart and not admitted to illicit services, depending where you live, you may still be able to avoid arrest. Cops often like to bully/deceive you into admitting wrongdoing, and will nearly always take advantage of those who don't know their rights.

    I should also point out that massage requirements vary from state to state. Check yours. In my state, the official state guidelines won't take effect for nearly a year, and as far as I am aware through my personal research, offering massage without a license/certification is not illegal unless you call yourself a "professional" or "certified" in your marketing (again, for my state in particular). Be sure to check your city ordinances too.
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    You are right Joe. I went to college and have an associates degree in Criminal Justice. I used to ask my professor all the time about police being quick to stop you and "want to question you". My professor who was a cop told me to ask the officer "Am I free to leave?" If he says "yes" get the fuck outta there don't be nosy just go. When they call you on the phone about something and say "can you come down to the station regarding such and such?" you need to ask them if they have a warrant for that, if they do not never volunteer yourself even if you think you are helping because ultimately "everything you say or do can and will be used against you" (in the miranda rights) and can get you into more trouble than you imagined. But yes also it is good to know the law. In my ad for massage I do not call myself a professional or certified or licensed practitioner. And I keep my massages clean and the men are required to keep their underwear on and I stay far away from the stick and berries. The police can be very scary and so we definitely need to know and protect ourselves from them. If they are there to bust you they will but who knows by knowing the law, maybe it will impress upon them that hey you are an intelligent individual and they may just go elsewhere.

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    This reminds me of an incident I had though it was for private dancing. I used to go dance for men on a private basis and would bring a bouncer. I never touched them or they touched me but I'm sure they could consider it prostitution if they wanted to bust someone. I show up and this guy was in a robe. He started asking me questions about what the dance entailed and how much touching and all of that. I said nothing but he kept insisting there was more. He then mentioned paying by check and that gave me bad vibes because I only took cash then and would only take checks from long time regulars. I then told him I had to check on something in my car and left. It could have been a weirdo but something told me he was LE by his asking and the fact the hotel room looked clean.

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    Rule Number One is : " Keep your mouth shut ". The OP did in her situation and was able to leave with no muss or fuss.
    If you are questioned say nothing without a lawyer. See the advice supra about asking if you are free to go.
    If you do get arrested , say NOTHING except: " I want a lawyer".
    Never trust the police. They are NOT your friends. Very often your silence will upset or annoy the police. They usually try the old " if you don't have anything to hide why not tell me ? ". They have a big bag of deceptive tricks. They lie like rugs. Stay silent and demand an attorney. Period.

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