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    This is my first post on here, so first off hello. I'm still very new to camming only been at it about 2 or 3 months. I found myself in a sticky situation and I don't know what to do was hoping someone could offer me advice or something.

    Basically what happened was I was working one night things were going well and I had a user pushing me to buy my panties. The first night he didn't offer near enough, so the next night he comes back and offers enough to actually make it worth it. So I do it because prior to even getting on cam I watched girls for months and saw so many doing it. Well then I got and email from SM saying they were giving me a warning and not to do it anymore. So since then I have stopped, it was the only time I did it, but also once I got the warning I decided not to send the panties. Now the guy is emailing me through SMs email it kinda seems like I'm damned if I do or if I don't. If he would report it or something because he also received a warning could I loose my account? I have replied telling him I can't talk about it because it is against SMs code of conduct.

    Loosing my account would be devastating I just bought a house, I'm taking care of my kids from my camming... and right now I'm so terrified to even login. I just feel so stupid, I didn't catch it in the code of conduct. So any advice would be extremely helpful and thank you.

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    Sorry, but for sm to care that much, you must have been reported. Some have too much time on their hands to bait people, watch out. If i would ever do it, i would only risk it with a regular that i know and spent a lot already, otherwise not worth it. It's really not worth it either way, just stay on cam a few hours and you will have that money in no time.

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    Well I know its not worth it now. Actually when I did it I didn't even know it was breaking the rules, I followed every other rule to the letter but somehow I thought I wasn't allowed to just send out my contact info. I just feel stuck and don't know what to do. I don't want to do it again, wouldn't even if it was a reg at this point because the income I'm getting from SM has been enough to take care of my family and I'm a single parent.

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    I would just tell the guy its against the rules, he got you in trouble because of it, so you cant send them after all, you are sorry. and if he's rude block his ass...anyway thats my opinion XD I don't cam that site though
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    Thats what I want to do and just comp him some vids or something. But i'm worried if I do he'll report it and I don't know if SM will count it as a separate incident or the same. I'm afraid to even email them and ask, this whole thing has my stomach turning.

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    I would just think you'd let him know that you can't because he got you in trouble and that you will get his money refunded as soon as possible. Then email/contact SM and let them know that this in reference to the earlier incident and send them a screencap (if necessary) of the message you sent to the guy about it and ask them if they will refund whatever amount he tipped for that specific thing. Maybe apologize for previously breaking the rule? I dunno but that's what I would do. Though...I don't work for sm yet.
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    Thats what I want to do and just comp him some vids or something. But i'm worried if I do he'll report it and I don't know if SM will count it as a separate incident or the same. I'm afraid to even email them and ask, this whole thing has my stomach turning.

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    See thats the dilemma because in the code of conduct there is a rule that says if there is a charge back due to fraud or whatever the account will be banned without question.

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    I would just let you know that I don't think this is considered fraud but I totally understand your concern because hell what if SM *does* consider it fraud. It's a sticky situation girl and only you can decide what route to ultimately take - what i said i would do is just that, but i'd probably cross my fingers and hope and all that fun stuff too. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by babydoll25 View Post
    See thats the dilemma because in the code of conduct there is a rule that says if there is a charge back due to fraud or whatever the account will be banned without question.

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    Yeah thats what has me terrified is if they did consider it just that. I just don't know I've read horror stories about SM support. I just don't know if it would be considered the same issue or a different issue.

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    ^^ I feel you about the horror of their support though. I've been trying to get ahold of their support team for over a week now.

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    I useually get responses in 24 hours or less. I'm just scared to email them and them be like "Ohhh, drama" and ban my account. I mean that would pretty much ruin my life atm. It sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl_Sugar View Post
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    So from that screen I just read I'm kind of breathing a sigh of relief. I got in trouble for the sharing of personal info even though I never gave mine out. But they wont enforce anything on me if I send the panties or I don't?

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    The main jist of the thread is that its a huge-ass gray area. Top models do it ALL THE TIME with no repercussions. But ANYONE who tries to sell panties still risks getting suspended. :/ They play favorites. As long as you don't pursue it further you should be fine. If the customer has already paid you, tell him that you're not allowed to discuss selling panties on SM. If they're smart, they'll google you and find your twitter or something.

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    Thats what i've done so far but this guy isn't smart lol. He keeps messaging through SMs system. I already received a warning about it. Thats why I haven't pursued it any further just hoping he can't complain to support and get me banned.

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    Just respond with a generic "I am not allow to sell panties on this site. It infringes upon the model rule about asking customers for personal information."

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    Right thats what I've been doing I was just worried because he already tipped into a show and sent his personal info that it could come back to bite me in the ass. SMs warning was stern and freaked me out he got one as well I figured he'd let it go but he hasn't.

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    You already said no after receiving a warning. If he keeps asking things that clearly both know it´s against the rules of the site, I think you should report him.

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    Go into your mail and after you open his mail it says block. Then you can block him from contacting you. I think after that you can go into your blacklist and check off the box for ban from shows. If not you'll have to ban him when he comes into the room. Don't forget to save your changes at the bottom of the page.
    I think the sad thing is you can sit in the top models rooms and yes they do sell panties. There is even one brunette top model that just got a zoom camera and a stripper pole and she does the BIG TIME no-no of telling custies to visit her website. When you go to her website she prompts you to unsign up from Streamate and to use a different credit card and re sign up through cammodels so she gets the 70%!!!!!! But apparently that is all ok with streamate because they're still camming. Also the girl that uses power tools in her show. She sells panties. And that's ok?!
    Then there's the models that blatently put taboo in their profiles. It's just aggravating.

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    Yeah, I have seen so many girls doing it months before I even started camming on SM, thats why I thought it was ok. I read the code of conduct and just had a lapse I guess and for some reason thought I wasn't allowed to send contact info which I never did. He just begged and begged till finally one night I was like screw it ok and he tipped into the show. Then I got a warning he said he did to, and I was like i'm not sending these if i could loose my income. SMs been very good to me and I'd hate to loose my account. I didn't really wanna block him because I didn't want to provoke any issues cause man the warning email I got was scary to say the least especially since I just bought a house, and I'm finally giving my kids the life they deserve.

    BTW Thanks for all the help and advice everyone . I'll be around here a lot more often enjoying reading a lot of posts here .

    Quote Originally Posted by Mare View Post
    Go into your mail and after you open his mail it says block. Then you can block him from contacting you. I think after that you can go into your blacklist and check off the box for ban from shows. If not you'll have to ban him when he comes into the room. Don't forget to save your changes at the bottom of the page.
    I think the sad thing is you can sit in the top models rooms and yes they do sell panties. There is even one brunette top model that just got a zoom camera and a stripper pole and she does the BIG TIME no-no of telling custies to visit her website. When you go to her website she prompts you to unsign up from Streamate and to use a different credit card and re sign up through cammodels so she gets the 70%!!!!!! But apparently that is all ok with streamate because they're still camming. Also the girl that uses power tools in her show. She sells panties. And that's ok?!
    Then there's the models that blatently put taboo in their profiles. It's just aggravating.

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    Did he pay you for the panties already? If so send him a vid or something apologize for making the deal and explain that SM has told you you can't do it. After you send him the vid or whatever just block him, because if he already paid you he is going to keep coming around, so you'll have to block to be rid of him.
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    Sometimes I swear I'm going to quit camming and do something else.... then I look up jobs I would qualify for and quickly say FUCK THAT! Ain't nobody got time for that!




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    ^Yep, send him a few videos (through a download link such as cam redeem, etc.) then block his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babydoll25 View Post
    Yeah, I have seen so many girls doing it months before I even started camming on SM, thats why I thought it was ok. I read the code of conduct and just had a lapse I guess and for some reason thought I wasn't allowed to send contact info which I never did. He just begged and begged till finally one night I was like screw it ok and he tipped into the show. Then I got a warning he said he did to, and I was like i'm not sending these if i could loose my income. SMs been very good to me and I'd hate to loose my account. I didn't really wanna block him because I didn't want to provoke any issues cause man the warning email I got was scary to say the least especially since I just bought a house, and I'm finally giving my kids the life they deserve.

    BTW Thanks for all the help and advice everyone . I'll be around here a lot more often enjoying reading a lot of posts here .
    Gosh, now I'm gonna come off like a total jerk. I empathize with you entirely and I understand the anxiety you must have with caring for kids and a new house, etc etc.
    But.....
    The fact is, when you signed up for the site, you signed a contract. There were rules you were supposed to read. Your reasoning is that you saw other girls do it without a prob. True. Doesn't mean it's abiding by the rules, and by breaking that, you have taken that slight chance that you'll be penalized.

    You keep repeating that you're scared of what SM will do. You will continue to feel this until you do something about it instead of just *thinking* about doing something. Also, it's good of you to consider the dudes' position - that's basic human decency. What is NOT cool is that he pressured you. A lot. Enough that you gave in.

    Send him something. Do not be sorry that you're not able to fulfill something you could lose your income over. Then block him and move forward. He will report you if you're nice, he will report you if you're mean, he will report you if the wind is blowing the wrong way & he's feeling like being a dick.

    You said SMs been good to you. That's rad! This dude.......NOT GOOD FOR YOU. You are stressed out now and it's not worth it.

    "Just because everybody's doing it doesn't make it right." Some chick is sticking dildos in her cat and is still around..... there's gonna be the weasels who continue to flagrantly break rules.
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    Yes I did sign a contract and some how the rules got fuzzy in my head like I said it was a misinterpretation of the rules. I already received a warning which was more or less my question if they will deem this the same issue or a different one. I think the dude knew it was against the rules before he even asked. Its not that I was like oh ok this is alright because everyone is doing it. It was the fact I saw other people do it yes but also I read something wrong. There is nothing actually about the exchange of items for currency in the code of conduct. So it was kinda of a grey area.

    Pretty much he pushed and pushed, i gave in, got a warning, elected not to use the personal info he gave me.

    But lesson learned. I just was more or less wondering if SM would again view this as the same issue or a different one.

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