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    Default NEWBIE in Ottawa - Pimp Problems

    Hey ladies. So I have been interested in stripping for a little while. HOWEVERI had a conversation with a friend, who says that pimping of girls is still a huge problem. That I would have to pay for protection (70/30 split) I want to hear from some of you ladies. Have you been solicited by pimps? Do you currently have a pimp? I didn't think it was neccessary to have a pimp, when you have club secruity? This is the only thing holding me back, as I don't want to start dancing, naked, shaking my ass for someone to be like "well for just 100/ night you can be safe." Im trying to make some money.Any advice from my Canadian Ladies would be super helpful. OTTAWA / GTA /MTL especially!

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    If those scumbags solicit you then tell security and if the security doesn't do anything then just leave the club it's not worth it and no sweet heart you do not need a pimp whatsoever.

    I worked at some sleezy clubs before and all types of pimps have came up to me but i just ignored them and kept my game face on and kept hustling because no way in this galaxy would i ever give my hard earned money to anybody unless i owed them.

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    Default Re: NEWBIE in Ottawa - Pimp Problems

    Lol I'm almost not sure to take this post seriously, but on the off chance it's really a young 19 year old girl looking to dance...
    Are there pimps in Ottawa? Yes.
    Do you need one? NO.
    Should you have one? FUCK NO.

    Protection? From what? Money? (The nice clubs don't like or tolerate pimps or their girls for very long usually, it's a very clean city to work in too.) The guys in this city are so polite they appologize for getting a boner :p

    Your friend sounds really shady the fact that she's telling you you need a pimp makes me think she's on a team or something and like half-assed trying to pre-recruit you. Does your friend actually dance? If she does I would not work with her if you want to dance, sounds like she might get you into some shady deals. That or she's just a paranoid civie with no clue as to what's actually going on, in which case, just go in and do it. By yourself.
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    Default Re: NEWBIE in Ottawa - Pimp Problems

    The girls who get 'taken in' by pimps tend to be impressionable, down on themselves(insecure), little or no personal boundaries.

    ITC the dancer's best security is herself, IMO. Even in clubs I have worked at that had really good bouncers, they cannot be there all the time, sm times they will miss things or be otherwise occupied when you need them. Bouncers are human too.

    A big part of protecting yourself as a dancer just comes from using your common sense, & not going against that little loud voice in your head that tells you the customer you have just sat down w/ is Trouble. Keep your head on straight & for the most part you will be fine. This 'protection' bullshit is just that, bullshit. Often a pimp will fk you up a lot worse than the average customer, whether you did anything or not.

    Ignore them if they solicit you, don't even try to be smart w/ them. They are there w/ one purpose in mind & the only way to tell them off is to walk away. As the other poster stated, tell security, & if they do nothing, find a different club.

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    Your friend sounds either shady as hell or just plain ignorant. We're dancers, not prostitutes...and even escorts don't need a pimp! Pimps are predators who take advantage of vulnerable women. They are just one of the many things to watch out for in the strip club. You should NEVER give away any money to a stranger for ANY reason. Why would you even consider doing that??

    YOU are responsible for your "security". You'll have a manager or bouncer walk you to and from your car every night, and you're not giving out your phone number, address or any personal info so I'm failing to see what extra danger you're going to be in as a stripper that you need a pimp to protect you from. The only added risk with stripping is that a customer can molest you while you're naked on his lap. And what the hell is a pimp going to do in that situation that a bouncer can't do? Or better yet, that YOU can do?

    I'm not trying to rude but I am being blunt on purpose...you're going to have to have strong boundaries if you choose to try dancing. You can't believe everything you hear, and you're going to have to develop a bullshit radar real fast. I just don't want you to be taken advantage of. You should have heard a warning bell and called bullshit when your friend told you that you'll coerced into handing over your hard earned money to a stranger.

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    Drop your friend. I'm willing to be she's just trying to recruit you. I currently dance in Ottawa; if you really want to try dancing in the city and could use some moral support, PM me and I'll help you out. I will not take a cut of your money or recommend getting a pimp because that is fucked up. Unless you are working at Taboo, Tease, Silver Dollar, or maybe even Playmate, you won't even run into a pimp. Management is on top of keeping that shit out of the club.

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    Thanks ladies! I totally agree with all the comments posted. I needed to ask you ladies what really to expect because I thought it was a little far fetched, giving someone my money for doing nothing.

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Size:  171.2 KBA girl who thinks she needs a pimp or other girls need one deserves what she gets IMO! So many guys come in and think they know how we can make more money!

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    Tasha, I want to add I work with shanna IRL, we've been friends for years and started together so you can trust her im out of town atm or I would offer support too, but pm shanna if you have any questions about getting started in the area she'll point you in the right direction and answer any questions you might have.

    Another thing: this board is a great resource for you, and provides reliable info, but like the other girls have said, do not trust what anyone says in general at work. From dancers or customers. People can smell new girls and some characters will try and take you for a ride...In general the dancers on this board are of good character, many irl are much more fitting of the typical stereotypes, though Ottawa's pretty tame city and girls are generally nice. But yeah, if you need help, get it through here and not shady people like your friend.
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    Default Re: NEWBIE in Ottawa - Pimp Problems

    A pimp is like a middleman. No one really NEEDS one but like someone mentioned above, a woman who is lonely, uneducated, naive, or poor economic background are more likely get involved with shady deals involving pimps.

    The stereotypical pimp is greedy, flashy, and ends up being abusive mentally and physically. Avoid men like this like the plague.

    Dancing is tough mentally and physically but it can be a positive experience with the right support.

    I personally think it's okay to pay for support, mentoring, etc. but make sure the person has experience, non judge mental, and you can trust them. This doesn't have to be a pimp.

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    A girl needs a pimp like the ocean needs more water in it. It's sad when anyone thinks they need a "manager" or "pimp" or whatever!

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    I've had quite a few close calls to be honest. I had a friend who offered me a gig at a private party. I asked how she found her gigs and what not and she said some guy arranged them for her and the other girls she worked with. They didnt a group name or company they went by. There was no way for me to google or research about their private party group, it was all through "word of mouth/(so-and-so's name)" as she put it. What really made me not do it was that I wasnt even going to meet her boss before I went to the party. and the split was 60/40...and I wouldn't be taking the bigger cut either, I wouldn't keep my tips either. (WTF right?)

    The moment I told her no she flipped out on me, started cussing me out and what not. Now, 2 months after she still tries offering me some stripping/private party jobs on the side cause she knows Im looking for work, but she keeps referring to her boss. I honestly think that not only is she trying to recruit me but she's probably going to make some huge bonus off of me as well. Now she calls me at random times and leaves me messages about a party coming up or how they 'tour' at clubs, I may have to delete her number cause its getting ridiculous.

    Stormi Weather said best it though. Develop that BS radar, and trust your gut instinct and rely on yourself. Cause there really are some shady characters in this business.

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    its probably her BF and theyre setting parties up which isnt that hard to do (craigslist) yet these types are always needing more girls than they can deliver.

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    ^^Yeah Pimping is basically the hood verison of a ponzi scheme. The girls that get in first rank higher and typically either get a bonus or more commonly, a cut of all future earnings of a new team member. The pimps don't often do the recruiting themselves, they depend on their other girls for that. Which is why you stay the FUCK away from the over-the-top nicey-nicey smiley-smiley girls at work.
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    In all the years I've been dancing I've never run into a pimp! Thank god, I guess my club does a good job keeping them out or I've been lucky.

    As everyone has said you do not need a pimp at all... the bouncers will watch over you. For me the hardest part about stripping is the emotional support. It's incredibly emotionally draining and it can become isolating, especially if you are working a lot (sleeping during the day, not available on the nights your friends are) or are trying to hide the fact that you're dancing (it's difficult to feel close to people when you lie about what you do all week!). I think that's one of the reasons dancers can be easy prey for pimps or end up in unhealthy relationships (I can speak
    for the later). If you feel you need emotional support it's best to look for
    it OTC... every stripper should have a therapist, IMHO...

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    I have met pimps, I have befriended girls who have pimps, and most of them leave their pimps after they realize they dont need a pimp.. Most of the time they start earning more money after leaving him/her. I don't understand why girls fall into this emotional trap.. If your friend is telling you that you need protection she is probably working for/recruiting & I would tell her she sounds like a mind controlled barbie doll..

    Sheeshh..

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