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    Default Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    Streamate has gold shows I still have no idea what they are or if they will make me money. I got curious seeing a thread of girls trying to make $1,000 a day they say its from doing private shows and gold shows. I've attempted gold shows and failed every time at them. So I started searching for tips on to have a successful gold show and I can't find much about it

    At most I find that if you make a gold show and don't make your goal your not paid and you basically have the option of starting the gold show again or try and get privates. Streamate has changed a lot the traffic is very up and down way more then before.

    Are Gold shows even worth it if your doing them how do you make sure you reach your goal.
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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    I would love having an i7 because I know it is required to even do the GS. I would LOVE to be able to have voyeur camming and that also requires that you are able to gs.

    BUT YES, I have so unclear about it....I def read a billion of the Streamate thread here & constantly hesitate to post something redundant or get the ol' 'USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION' that are occasionally super mean.

    Srsly, whenever i hear "Gold Show," I instantly think Golden Shower! They couldn't call it something different for fucks' sake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellyMay View Post
    I would love having an i7 because I know it is required to even do the GS. I would LOVE to be able to have voyeur camming and that also requires that you are able to gs.

    BUT YES, I have so unclear about it....I def read a billion of the Streamate thread here & constantly hesitate to post something redundant or get the ol' 'USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION' that are occasionally super mean.

    Srsly, whenever i hear "Gold Show," I instantly think Golden Shower! They couldn't call it something different for fucks' sake?
    I am on a old toshiba c650 laptop and I am able to do gold shows and broadcast using the HD encoder. It works ok I wish it was a desktop. I think the reason they call it gold shows because of the fact your not being billed by the minute and you have to buy a ticket to see the show using gold. Even gold they could have used something but it could be that other sites are using chips and tokens.

    So far when I've research it gold shows were put out for the porn stars on the site so they could make money and give away free stuff direct to their own websites and esentially steal way streamate customers. From the point of what it is for regular cammodels on the site it's like giving the guys happy hour. But from what I can tell the whole gold show thing is a bad idea all together and takes away from the whole private show culture.

    Also I've noticed girls who are doing it and if they are regular models they are doing based on the fact they have a high number of fans who made them their favorites.
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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    can you not upgrade the Mac?
    Look for ppl that will basically rebuild

    I have a guy here that rebuilds Macs really cheap. I found him google and searching , it led me to Mac forums etc

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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MellyMay View Post
    WTF WTF WTF THE ENCODER NEVER WORKS FOR ME!!!!!!!! MacBook since.....July 2009, so not toooo old but 5 yrs of technoligical advancements is changing so rapidly.

    Can anyone offer assistance to, i dunno, override it somehow?
    I ran the encoder on a MacBook from 2008 and an iMac from 2009, Gold Shows included. I def had to tweak the settings and YMMV but once I got a formula going it's been pretty good, not many DCs and even got TV gold shows when I used to stream in Party Chat. And it's basically the same settings I use now that I'm on the 2013 MBP.

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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MellyMay View Post
    WTF WTF WTF THE ENCODER NEVER WORKS FOR ME!!!!!!!! MacBook since.....July 2009, so not toooo old but 5 yrs of technoligical advancements is changing so rapidly.

    Can anyone offer assistance to, i dunno, override it somehow?
    How is it not working? Like will it not open at all or open but not stream, etc

    I used the encoder on a 2007 Compaq with only 2 GB of RAM and it worked alright. I forget the exact specs but I have an i3 now (which runs the encoder just fine) and my old computer was waaaaay less powerful. I had to tweak the settings a bit to keep my CPU usage low but it worked.

    Never tried a GS on it but I had them enabled while I was using it, and they work fine with an i3.

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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    If you don't make your goal then you can choose to still take the show anyway if you want. You then get paid your cut of whatever is put in by the end of the show. I usually like to wait until I hit my goal though but I set them to what I think is achievable. I know some prefer to set them higher than they would be happy with and take it as long as it gets to their happy point.

    I find the lower my placement the harder it is to do a successful gold show. However, I tend to adjust my prices so that if I have fewer people in my room I put my buy in UP so that I need fewer people to join to hit my goal. I also adjust my goal DOWN in that situation.

    Sometimes I set my buy in per guy to as high as $15 and then I just need a few guys and do a more 'intimate' show where they can make more requests etc.

    I offer incentives such as high tipper getting name moaned and often gifts (videos) for tippers over a certain amount (say $10 or $15).

    I have been doing gold shows since they came out of beta and have built up a group of regulars who join them frequently. I always remind viewers to add me to their favourites at the end of the show.

    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    Streamate has gold shows I still have no idea what they are or if they will make me money. I got curious seeing a thread of girls trying to make $1,000 a day they say its from doing private shows and gold shows. I've attempted gold shows and failed every time at them. So I started searching for tips on to have a successful gold show and I can't find much about it

    At most I find that if you make a gold show and don't make your goal your not paid and you basically have the option of starting the gold show again or try and get privates. Streamate has changed a lot the traffic is very up and down way more then before.

    Are Gold shows even worth it if your doing them how do you make sure you reach your goal.
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    Somebody call the WAHHHHmbulance.

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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MellyMay View Post
    I would love having an i7 because I know it is required to even do the GS.
    That's not true.
    You don't need an i7 to get Goldshows.
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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    ..... Well, thx ladies, and apologies that I am so gifted in the art of thread derailment!
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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    I had a beast of a time getting the encoder to work. It is very temperamental. It took me like 6 months of just trying different shit.

    I know nothing about Macs though so sorry I can't help you there!
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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    The SM website has info on Gold Shows. Whether it's worth it for you is a matter of experimentation.

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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    The subject of gold shows, and how to make them work for you is so finicky. It really depends on how many regs you have, and how often you broadcast. Nowadays, I'm doing shiiiiiit with gold shows, but I believe that is down to how long I spent away from Streamate. I need to build up my fanbase all over again, pretty much, and get my placement back to like, the first 1 - 4 rows.

    It's very hard for me to reach $100 shows these days, though I can sometimes manage $50 - $60 or so. I like to keep them at around 4 - 5 mins, with buy-ins varying from $1 - $5. I do want to experiment more with that though.



    Quote Originally Posted by MellyMay View Post
    WTF WTF WTF THE ENCODER NEVER WORKS FOR ME!!!!!!!! MacBook since.....July 2009, so not toooo old but 5 yrs of technoligical advancements is changing so rapidly.

    Can anyone offer assistance to, i dunno, override it somehow?
    I managed to get by using the encoder on my old ancient Toshiba laptop using the Hotspot Shield, and using the encoder on the lowest setting. Hotspot Shield IS a program that uses a proxy, though I did ask SM support if I was allowed to use it and they told me it was fine. I told them I could only run the encoder using that, and once I started using it the encoder ran fine.




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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    Yea this thread was suppose to be about gold shows, and what works for some and what doesn't work for some people I don't know how MellyMay started to high jack this thread with her computer problems and not one of your post was about gold shows at all. You turned this thread into a damn circus.

    It's true I am slowly camming again and when I log on I am getting guys trying to tell me how you make more money doing gold shows but I have only done one gold show where I did not make my goal but I had about $60 in buy-in bids so I gave it a try and I spent the show just talking to my guys in the room. They probably wanted more but I wasn't up for a full on cum show like I do in my privates.

    I personally really hate it when guys who are patrons of the site try and tell me how to run business.

    I probably have to work regularly 20 to 40 hours a week to make gold shows an option. I got about 1500 favorites but not many regulars right now I am trying to log on and be present and have guys interested in me too many damn idiots are coming in my room leaving or say one word and dash.
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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    Seriously?

    ETA: There are loads of GS threads: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/se...earchid=802741
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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    It's true I am slowly camming again and when I log on I am getting guys trying to tell me how you make more money doing gold shows but I have only done one gold show where I did not make my goal but I had about $60 in buy-in bids so I gave it a try and I spent the show just talking to my guys in the room. They probably wanted more but I wasn't up for a full on cum show like I do in my privates.
    I'd probably (just personally) try to avoid spending gold shows talking if the goal isn't met because then those dudes aren't getting what they chipped in for, ya know? It might even put them off tipping for any more of your gold shows because it's riskier for them if they end up paying for something they end up not getting. I'd probably try to stick to either going ahead with the original show and starting when you feel you've raked in enough tips; restart the countdown; or end that countdown and redo the topic to state what the show is gonna be.. or even just put in the topic something like "If goal isn't reached, I will start but just talk" so at least they know what they're gonna get.

    That's just my take on it though.

    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    I probably have to work regularly 20 to 40 hours a week to make gold shows an option. I got about 1500 favorites but not many regulars right now I am trying to log on and be present and have guys interested in me too many damn idiots are coming in my room leaving or say one word and dash.
    I don't think you need to work that many hours per week to make gold shows an option for you. It isn't really so much to do with how many guys have faved you, but how busy your room is and how many repeat custies you get. A lot of my regs are serial gold show tippers at this point. I rarely make my $100 goal these days, but even just logging on for like 2 hours a night can work a treat with getting there ime.




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    WARNINGS: 1) LONG. 2) PLEASE PLEASE recognize that these are just MY perspectives, tips and ideas. I'm not trying to speak for anyone else, knock anyone else's way of doing things, or suggest that anyone is doing their Gold Shows better or worse than I am. 3) Grain of salt - I don't do many GS because exclusive is usually my bread & butter. 4) I'm not trying to give out top secret info, engage in spoon feeding, or cause the downfall of the camming world here, but if that's what I've done, kindly let me know, and I'll delete this. Just trying to be helpful and share some thoughts that have been running around in my head for a awhile...

    Technical stuff - I think a lot of this info is in the GS tutorial on SM, so you may already know it. Apologies if I'm totally stating the obvious:
    ~ At any time during the countdown, you can choose to start the show or cancel the show, regardless of whether you met your goal. In fact, you can start the show without any bids at all (useful for voyeur).
    ~ If you haven't made the goal, you will get a popup 90 seconds (I think) before the end of the countdown, asking whether you want to cancel or start. Many girls start the show even if they didn't make the goal because a) they set a fairly high goal & didn't intend to collect the full amount, b) they believe a few more people will buy in once the show starts, or c) they feel the amount they collected is better than nothing.
    ~ If you make your goal before the countdown ends, you have another 30 seconds or so before the show starts to allow guys to buy in if they were waiting to the last second.
    ~ If you cancel the show and restart the countdown, none of the pledges on the previous countdown apply - they have to pledge again if they want to join the show, but they weren't charged for the first countdown.
    ~ If you cancel the show at any point or if you get disconnected or if anything else happens that prevents the show from being completed in full, no one pays anything and you get nothing.
    ~ If someone pledges to your show, but you block him before the show is over, you will not get his money.
    ~ Guys can still buy in to the show after it's started. If they enter your free chat while you are doing a GS, they will see your show topic, the price, and how many minutes are left in the show, and they can choose to join.
    ~ Once you finish the show, it takes a while for the $$ to show up on your report. There is a separate earnings line for every custie that attended the show, and they don't all appear at the same time. Sometimes it takes a half hour to see all the $$ posted.

    Tips - these are my personal thoughts on the matter, other ladies have different ideas:
    ~ When you are thinking about your goal amount, it's sort of a balancing act. A lot of guys won't bother pledging if the goal is too high b/c they think there's no way the show will happen. On the other hand, if you have a low goal that gets met before the countdown is done, your show will start early, and you might miss the opportunity to "entice" a few more guys into the show.
    ~ When setting your goal, bear in mind what your hourly average is. Add up the number of minutes for your countdown and your show, and figure out how much you would normally make in that number of minutes. Figure out how much they need to pay in order for you to make that amount (your cut), and that should probably be your bare minimum goal. You don't want to make less on your GS than you normally make doing privates. If you restart your countdown, do the calculation again, and this time count the minutes for the 1st countdown, the 2nd countdown, and the show length to get your new minimum goal. If you aren't reaching even your bare minimum goal, you might want to consider doing privates and trying the GS again later.
    ~ If you are trying for a pretty high goal, you probably need to do a long countdown. You will need time to accumulate enough people in your room to make your goal.
    ~ Keep in mind that a high goal / long countdown can pay off well, but it works best for the top girls that have lots of viewers anyway. It's riskier than a short countdown / smaller goal b/c if you never make your goal, you lose more time that could have been spent in private. The same idea applies to restarting the countdown. You may come to a point where you have to decide to cut your losses and do the show for significantly less than you wanted vs make $0 for all the time you spent in countdown(s).
    ~ Pricing is a matter of much debate. I don't know the best way to sort it out, and it really depends on your style, your custie base, etc.
    ~ When you start a countdown, you will get a huge flood of custies that will push you to give them everything and the kitchen sink for $1 or less. What you do with that is up to you, but try to brace yourself beforehand. In that vein of thought, whatever you train your custies to expect is what they will expect. If other ladies have trained them badly, stick to your guns, because you CAN retrain them. It sounds bad, but read up on positive dog training - it works on people too.

    Ideas for ways to run a GS - this is going to be very incomplete, because there are tons of ways to do GS, and tons of ways to both rock them and fail at them. It is a very personal concept, and your methods will revolve around your personal brand, your "product line," and your customer base. These are some ideas based on MY "product line," which is very private/exclusive focused:
    ~ GS as a sale: If you do a lot of privates and exclusives, a GS can be a way to snag $$ from the guys that can't afford your regular rates. If this is your method, it's probably a good idea to only do GS periodically (think about how often retailers have huge sales, and how excited people get when their favorite stores have a sale). You may also want to keep your GS material "light" - don't do everything you normally do in private. You want to give your private custies incentive to keep spending $$ in private. Your GS custies are the guys that wouldn't normally go private with you anyway, or guys that can't buy ANOTHER private this month at regular prices. You might consider basing your pricing on xx% off your normal rates - and maybe put this in your topic line. There is a very psychological reflex that occurs when you see a "XX% Off Sale" sign, and it makes people's math skills go haywire (possibly allowing you to compete with the $1 GS, while charging way more than $1).
    ~ GS as a sneak preview: This is a GS to snag guys that are on the fence about going private or exclusive with you. The same ideas apply as the "Sale GS," but this might be even "lighter" and shorter. This is a teaser, and if they want to see more, they are going to have to go private afterward.
    ~ Voyeur GS: I think there is quite a bit of material on SW about how to run these, but this is to snag $$ from the voyeurs (obviously, lol), and to snag $$ during minutes that you weren't going to be camming anyway. Be cautious with these: they will raise your % of time in private, but they can also destroy your $/hour average.
    ~ GS to show off a hidden talent: If you have a fetish or talent that gets requested very rarely, why not do a GS to show it off? It's a good way to gain notoriety for your talent without hijacking someone's private ("Doggy style, you said? Well, I'm great at SPH, so that's what you're getting today, bwahaha!") In this instance I would keep the buy-in pretty high, because guys that like fetish or something unusual WILL pay for it. I would also do a longish countdown for this sort of show because you will need time to accumulate your fetishists.
    ~ GS to train the custies: This specific tactic only works if you do a limited number of GS. You have to be prepared to take a hit on this one, and you may need to put on your thick skin and Goddess attitude. Do not plan to spend much time on either the countdown or the show, b/c you might very well be losing money on this. Forget about what other girls are doing and imagine your ideal GS setup. How much would you charge per custie per minute? How much would your goal be? How much/little would you do in the show? Whatever you envision is EXACTLY how you should set up your show. During the countdown, act like they are amazingly lucky to get ANY kind of GS from you, and you couldn't give a crap whether or not the show succeeds. If no one pledges, cancel the show with a big fat smile - your room is full of people, and your attitude probably got you an exclusive. If ANYONE buys in to the show, do the show. You have just trained a roomful of guys that if they don't play by your rules and your prices, they can expect nothing from you. You have also rewarded the guy(s) who did what they were supposed to do (that is, pledge the amount you dictated). Puppy training in action!

    And for now, that's all I have to say about that. Happy camming and good luck with whatever strategies you try!


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    ^^^ your absolute fucking awesome

    I would quote but ya know.. kinda long

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    ^^^ Lol! I think you should get a cookie just for making it through my whole post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    Yea this thread was suppose to be about gold shows, and what works for some and what doesn't work for some people I don't know how MellyMay started to high jack this thread with her computer problems and not one of your post was about gold shows at all. You turned this thread into a damn circus.
    Thanks for the shout out! You must have missed the part where I APOLOGIZED for going off topic and said we should get back to the subject with the exact words of "anyway, back to the topic at hand." I'm sorry people were trying to help me succeed at something? but here's to hoping that someone will also offer something by way of help/experiences/etc. I find that generally the average person is willing to help when you're nice. I don't necessarily think that saying I started a circus is, i dunno....gonna be worthwhile for any one. Plus, stay away from circuses because of the animal abuse.
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    Default Re: Gold Shows - looking for a thread on it.

    And because now I've been made to feel shitty, don't worry bb, i'll erase every single post. It actually DID stem from my question about gold shows requiring i7, so, yes, it was relevent to the topic.
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    Exactly. You didn't do anything wrong, MM. Your info was relevant and valuable.

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    Really, a simple "Let's keep this thread on topic guys!" would have sufficed, and / or splitting MellyMay's posts off into a new thread so she can get better help for her encoder ishes. Sorry, but mods ranting at posters turns the place into a circus, if anything, because it's just not necessary - you have mod powers, Minnie, to help maintain things here and well... moderate! I know it's stressful, as are the issues you're speaking about in this thread. But I hope everyone manages to get their own ishes sorted out. GOLD shows can be a difficult hustle to nail, and encoder ishes are.. well, fuck! I think many of us have been through hell and back with issues with that thing!




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    I've said this many damn times I do not have mod power in the camming connection section. they only gave me access to other work. I hate it when people make the assumption because I am a mod I have power - I don't have jack shit.
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    Well, some of us did directly respond on the gold show question - perhaps you didn't read those yet because no response and no thanks button pressed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    I've said this many damn times I do not have mod power in the camming connection section. they only gave me access to other work. I hate it when people make the assumption because I am a mod I have power - I don't have jack shit.
    Sorry? God... No need to bite my head off.

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