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    Hey new poster here and first wanted to say how I love the smart and honest coversations here.

    Question is do most of y'all see money 24/7 when you're working or have a goal of how much you need/want and/or then give some time for yourself to let loose and have fun? The two aren't exclusive but given a choice would you rather spend an hour hustling for 500 or an hour of fun and excitement but not nearly as much cash.

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    while im at work? cash. i'm not there to have fun, at work im there to make money. i have 4 days off during the week in which to have "fun", i certainly don't seek it out at work. i can, in fact have fun at work but that's when im earning at ton of money

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    We all heard the saying....work hard, play hard. Work is work and the dollars is what's on the mind when working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar View Post
    Hey new poster here and first wanted to say how I love the smart and honest coversations here.

    Question is do most of y'all see money 24/7 when you're working or have a goal of how much you need/want and/or then give some time for yourself to let loose and have fun? The two aren't exclusive but given a choice would you rather spend an hour hustling for 500 or an hour of fun and excitement but not nearly as much cash.
    I don't know any dancers that work "24/7". For that reason when they are at work for their shift they are there to concentrate on earning a living. If any dancer posts here that she would rather spend an hour at work having fun than making $500 I will eat my computer.
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    If any dancer posts here that she would rather spend an hour at work having fun than making $500 I will eat computer.
    LOL!!!!

    There are times when I meet a customer that I vibe with, and have good conversation or chemistry or whatever. But to echo the general sentiment, work is work and when the money dries up I have to move on to the next one no matter how fun the conversation was. Same as any other job really, waiters for example can't waste time bullshitting with their tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar View Post
    Hey new poster here and first wanted to say how I love the smart and honest coversations here.

    Question is do most of y'all see money 24/7 when you're working or have a goal of how much you need/want and/or then give some time for yourself to let loose and have fun? The two aren't exclusive but given a choice would you rather spend an hour hustling for 500 or an hour of fun and excitement but not nearly as much cash.

    Avatar, you are mixing things up. When we are at work we are working... when I'm at work, there is no such thing as "an hour of fun but not nearly as much cash" vs. "$500 per hour". Money talks, honey.

    Please don't think that being a cheapskate is doing a Stripper any favors. Ideally, we want to have fun while making lots of money.

    I enjoy stripping because I like showing people a good time and it is a line of work, that for me, is very rewarding. I like seeing customers smile and enjoy their time with me. I love their compliments but compliments don't pay my bills. Jokes, witty banter, and fabulous conversation aren't the reason I'm half naked in a strip club flirting with guys.

    I provide premium entertainment for a premium price. If I spent nearly $200 per night to work.... and then just B.S. with guys for bargain basement discounts... I'd be selling myself short.

    It's not sensible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    If any dancer posts here that she would rather spend an hour at work having fun than making $500 I will eat computer.
    So......... tempted........ !!!!
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    I usually havea goal, but have fun during. I always keep an eye on making money, but guys can sense when their being hustled they can smell desperate. They would much rather spend time with the girl having fun. and then when the fun girl wants to get away from everyone for private fun, usually that turns in to money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I don't know any dancers that work "24/7". For that reason when they are at work for their shift they are there to concentrate on earning a living. If any dancer posts here that she would rather spend an hour at work having fun than making $500 I will eat computer.
    I should've clarified its not 24/7 its 24/7 while working. I refuse to believe anybody can hustle every minute of every shift, though some better than others but maybe thats me. Nobodys robotic and every person needs/desires some real connection. How much it shows though is debateable and a topic for another discussion.

    And about the 500, I'm not talking about a guarantee but the potential for it. That's the tradeoff, the potential. You seem like an interesting guy, well respected and rightfully so, so I ask the ladies...

    Who here would spend an hour with yoda without payment (as many here on these forums are doing the same) vs using that time to potentially hustle for much more. (How much, is however much you believe you can get)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    I don't know any dancers that work "24/7". For that reason when they are at work for their shift they are there to concentrate on earning a living. If any dancer posts here that she would rather spend an hour at work having fun than making $500 I will eat computer.
    I should've clarified its not 24/7 its 24/7 while working. I refuse to believe anybody can hustle every minute of every shift, though some better than others but maybe thats me. Nobodys robotic and every person needs/desires some real connection. How much it shows though is debateable and a topic for another discussion.

    And about the 500, I'm not talking about a guarantee but the potential for it. That's the tradeoff, the potential. You seem like an interesting guy, well respected and rightfully so, so I ask the ladies...

    Who here would spend an hour with yoda without payment (as many here on these forums are doing the same) vs using that time to potentially hustle for much more. (How much, is however much you believe you can get)?

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    When I'm at work I'm there solely for the purpose of making money to fund my LIFE. I do have fun at work, but it's not a priority of mine whatsoever.
    I have four to five days a week to have fun!

    Honestly, girls who are there to "have fun" don't treat it like a job and probably won't last too long either.

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    I should've clarified its not 24/7 its 24/7 while working. I refuse to believe anybody can hustle every minute of every shift, though some better than others but maybe thats me. Nobodys robotic and every person needs/desires some real connection. How much it shows though is debateable and a topic for another discussion.

    And about the 500, I'm not talking about a guarantee but the potential for it. That's the tradeoff, the potential. You seem like an interesting guy, well respected and rightfully so, so I ask the ladies...

    Who here would spend an hour with yoda without payment (as many here on these forums are doing the same) vs using that time to potentially hustle for much more. (How much, is however much you believe you can get)?
    We're all pretty smart here Avatar. I think we understand what you are asking. You are just another guy who wants to believe that your charm and wit can replace cash in a strip club. It just doesn't work that way. A strip club is a social environment by nature for customers but for the dancers it's a job first and last. The ladies understand that and they know how to have fun with their customers. That being said, the operative word there is customers. A customer is a guy who spends money. I don't know any girls who are happy with themselves if they think they may have left money on the floor during their shift. A gal may give you some conversation time before or after you do dances with her. Some will even chat after you stage tip when the club is slow but but ultimately she is trying to get you to buy a dance. if you think that, while they are chatting with you, they are not always watching the club for incoming regulars or a sudden arrival of new potential business you are wrong.

    If you aren't spending you aren't getting any attention.

    When you are done spending you are done getting any attention.

    If you get a reputation for not spending you will never get any attention.

    Your last question doesn't make any sense. I don't go to clubs to hang out without the intention of spending money. Hell, I date dancers and I still spend on them if I go to see them at their club. I don't know any of the gals on this site as a customer but I can promise you that if I showed up to visit them at their clubs and didn't spend any money the word would get around via back-channel pretty quickly that I was a time-waster.

    Face reality Avatar. You could be the nicest guy in the world, a charmer and stud but inside the club money talks and BS sits alone.
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    If any dancer posts here that she would rather spend an hour at work having fun than making $500 I will eat my computer.
    Mental image of the day. Yoda eating his computer..............."Mnn Tasty it is"

    Everyone has fun at work sometimes, but it rarely has to do with the customers

    If you have a good crew to work with[at any job] it can make the day go by.

    It is hard to say but it feels to me like the dancers years ago had more fun, when the sole contact you would ever get was a quick hug on the floor from girls you knew well. I can imagine the prospect of grinding in the lap of some old man like me can take the Joie de vivre right the frig out of ya.

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    Are there times when a dancer needs to "disengage" from hustling and just sit? Yes. But she will usually do so on a smoke break or in the dressing room - AWAY from all customers. If a dancer is sitting with you for free, telling you that she "just wants to have fun for a little while" - it's because she has already made a pass around the room and knows everyone there is a cheap timewaster. No dancer looks at the floor, thinks there is potentially a lot of money to be made off big-spenders, and then chooses to sit and make nothing with the "fun" dude. It's just not a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Avatar, you are mixing things up. When we are at work we are working... when I'm at work, there is no such thing as "an hour of fun but not nearly as much cash" vs. "$500 per hour". Money talks, honey.

    Please don't think that being a cheapskate is doing a Stripper any favors. Ideally, we want to have fun while making lots of money.

    I enjoy stripping because I like showing people a good time and it is a line of work, that for me, is very rewarding. I like seeing customers smile and enjoy their time with me. I love their compliments but compliments don't pay my bills. Jokes, witty banter, and fabulous conversation aren't the reason I'm half naked in a strip club flirting with guys.

    I provide premium entertainment for a premium price. If I spent nearly $200 per night to work.... and then just B.S. with guys for bargain basement discounts... I'd be selling myself short.

    It's not sensible.
    Haha I admit I'm on the cheap compared to whats here and no I'm not looking to do a stripper any favors at least not the ones I don't know. From a customers(my) perspective my first priority is am I having fun and I'm the type who likes to flirt with all y'all first, then choose whom I want. It sounds crass and not what you want from an ideal customer, and I'm not trying to be one.

    Sure money talks and that's your goal. ITC we'd not get along, OTC you seem cool enough where otherwise we might.

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    Are there times when a dancer needs to "disengage" from hustling and just sit? Yes. But she will usually do so on a smoke break or in the dressing room - AWAY from all customers. If a dancer is sitting with you for free, telling you that she "just wants to have fun for a little while" - it's because she has already made a pass around the room and knows everyone there is a cheap timewaster. No dancer looks at the floor, thinks there is potentially a lot of money to be made off big-spenders, and then chooses to sit and make nothing with the "fun" dude. It's just not a thing.
    So how often do you leave in the middle of a conversation, group, interaction to run over to a potential big spender? Sometimes, always, never?

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    So how often do you leave in the middle of a conversation, group, interaction to run over to a potential big spender? Sometimes, always, never?
    I'm not sure how that has anything to do with the observation that I posted? If I'm already engaged in conversation with someone, and I still honestly believe that that person could spend money, obviously I'll stay with them. You can't "smell" big-spenders from across the room... it's not like the second they walk in, we're like "HOLY FUCK, A WHALE!" and leap up from whatever interaction we were already a part of. But if you're not spending money for more than 10-15 minutes, depending on the club and dancer, and a girl still isn't getting up to try to make money elsewhere, it's either cuz she's new and still thinks she'll get money out of you easier than starting on someone new, or no one new has walked in during that time period. My point was, girls who know how to hustle, are not going to sit there longer than the requisite amount of time to figure out you won't spend much or much more before they leave to try out other options, unless they've saved you for last and it's a slow night with no new people filtering in.

    Your question seemed more asking if a girl would purposely sit with someone she knows isn't gonna spend much, solely because he's "fun," even if there are tons of other guys on the floor that she doesn't know anything about in terms of money potential - not, will a girl randomly run after "certain looking guys" at the expense of "abandoning" you because they "look" like big spenders.
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    I'm not sure how that has anything to do with the observation that I posted? If I'm already engaged in conversation with someone, and I still honestly believe that that person could spend money, obviously I'll stay with them. You can't "smell" big-spenders from across the room... it's not like the second they walk in, we're like "HOLY FUCK, A WHALE!" and leap up from whatever interaction we were already a part of. But if you're not spending money for more than 10-15 minutes, depending on the club and dancer, and a girl still isn't getting up to try to make money elsewhere, it's either cuz she's new and still thinks she'll get money out of you easier than starting on someone new, or no one new has walked in during that time period. My point was, girls who know how to hustle, are not going to sit there longer than the requisite amount of time to figure out you won't spend much or much more before they leave to try out other options, unless they've saved you for last and it's a slow night with no new people filtering in.

    Your question seemed more asking if a girl would purposely sit with someone she knows isn't gonna spend much, solely because he's "fun," even if there are tons of other guys on the floor that she doesn't know anything about in terms of money potential - not, will a girl randomly run after "certain looking guys" at the expense of "abandoning" you because they "look" like big spenders.
    Fair enough.

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    In deference to thinking that I may have misunderstood the question, there's actually been plenty of times where I've sat with people longer than necessary simply because it was slow so why not? And I never had a problem ending that conversation to go continue hustling new people once it got busier. I'm not going to feel bad for ending a profitless conversation to go do work while I'm.... at work... I usually just finish up whatever sentence I was on, maybe scarf down my drink, and then stand up and say "Well, it's been nice chatting, but I really have to get back to work." Still, my basic answer remains - no one passes up potential money for "more fun" and if they are still sitting there without money, it's because they don't see anyone worth hustling at the moment.

    Ultimately, it's really not all that hard to end a conversation with a someone who's not spending once more potential is within eyesight. You can do it perfectly gracefully - it doesn't have to be some abrupt, awkward interruption with them "running" to the other customer lol Sorry, I can't get over that visual.
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    Haha now you got that visual stuck in mine.

    You're dangerous. Where do you work so I know exactly what place to AVOID. Can't have somebody like you breaking my first rule. ;p

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    If I told you, that would take all the FUN out of it.
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    For real though, I rarely even work in the clubs anymore, so I think it's highly unlikely you'd wander into my little city on a night I happen to be working lol
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    Awww. I bet you miss fun asses like me
    And on that note I gotta say "well, its been nice chatting, but I really have to get back to work."
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    Hey new poster here and first wanted to say how I love the smart and honest coversations here.

    Question is do most of y'all see money 24/7 when you're working or have a goal of how much you need/want and/or then give some time for yourself to let loose and have fun? The two aren't exclusive but given a choice would you rather spend an hour hustling for 500 or an hour of fun and excitement but not nearly as much cash.


    $$$$ or fun ... fun or $$$$ ... & apparently I can have either the $$$$, or fun+$$, but not fun+$$$$ ....

    I am just going to be blunt here. *dons 5" heels & climbs up on Stripper * Guess what babycakes, I am not just here for my health. I have bills to pay & a future to save up for. *climbs down from *

    As you said, these two scenarios are not mutually exclusive. If I have a pretty solid idea that a little extra effort will get me that $$$$, then that is where I will be more inclined to focus my energy. Besides, IME the customers that fancy themselves the 'fun&excitement' types typically run on the much cheaper end of things, more like $ instead of $$.

    My idea of letting loose & having fun at work was getting more pole time, esp when one of my girlfriends was there to do doubles w/. There were certainly times when I greatly enjoyed the company of a particular customer, but I was there to entertain, not to be entertained.

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    Haha I admit I'm on the cheap compared to whats here and no I'm not looking to do a stripper any favors at least not the ones I don't know. From a customers(my) perspective my first priority is am I having fun and I'm the type who likes to flirt with all y'all first, then choose whom I want. It sounds crass and not what you want from an ideal customer, and I'm not trying to be one.

    Sure money talks and that's your goal. ITC we'd not get along, OTC you seem cool enough where otherwise we might.
    LOLOLOL! Sophia, I hope you saw this and are flattered! You're cool enough for him to *maybe* give you the time of day OTC!

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