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    So, a topic I've heard a lot from the custy's side, but curious about from the other side...buying drinks.

    I'm a guy who likes to get 1 dancer & then spend at least 4-5 dances in VIP unless it's a total disaster, and have been known to go much higher - so I usually start by offering to get a drink (they do a lot more work than I do in there LOL). I've heard from custie boards that it's really only an option, and more a good way to figure out how interested the dancer is - which to me, I don't really get (although if a dancer orders 3 drinks, yeah, I'd be turned off, worst I ever had was someone ordering for her AND another stripper, saying they were a pair - that ended any VIP talk pretty quickly).

    Again, understanding this is a business first, and P4P rules, two questions:

    1. Assuming you get paid for your time (realizing that matters most of all), how much does getting drinks increase/not affect your opinion of the experience?
    2. Do you go for your "favorite" drink, no matter the cost, or go for something more reasonable if it's being paid at the start, so as to not scare off custies from a bigger payout later?
    3. Is there a time most would expect to "refresh" an order if it's been a while? I mean, some of the workouts I've had done are pretty intense.

    When I've offered to buy, I've never begrudged any drink ordered, but I also have to admit that the ones who impressed me the most are the ones who took either a water, or who told me what their favorite drink was if it was super-expensive and said "are you sure?". Again, I'm about to spend a bunch of $ in VIP, but they don't know that, so in the end, I don't really care - it's trivial to the total cost, it's the principle.

    So, what do you say?

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    I nvr asked ouright for a drink, as I believe that is pretty rude, but it always annoyed me to get offstage & go sit w/ sm1 who was all 'Holy shit what a great stage show!' (did lots of pole work) & then would get themselves a drink but not offer me one. Often that was the first indicator not only that the customer was damn inconsiderate, but also cheap.

    Orange juice was always my drink of choice, unless the club sold non-alcoholic commission drinks, as I did not imbibe at work. I might order five or six while sitting w/ the same customer (went thru them pretty quick, I was a thirsty girl lol) but always made sure to show the customer how much I appreciated it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    I nvr asked ouright for a drink, as I believe that is pretty rude, but it always annoyed me to get offstage & go sit w/ sm1 who was all 'Holy shit what a great stage show!' (did lots of pole work) & then would get themselves a drink but not offer me one. Often that was the first indicator not only that the customer was damn inconsiderate, but also cheap.
    I have to agree that's just plain rude in any environment!
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    i have never asked for a drink, nor care if i get one ( i hate alcohol), but yeah a customer not offering when the waitress comes by is a clear sign of rudeness, cheapness. when a guy buys me a drink i assume he's down for getting dances also. and even when i don't want a drink i will order one, as turning down one is very rude imo. even if its a water i will say yes.
    drinks themselves really mean nothing to me, truth be told i'd rather just have the money ( although i would never say so). its the guy offering them that counts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    I nvr asked ouright for a drink, as I believe that is pretty rude, but it always annoyed me to get offstage & go sit w/ sm1 who was all 'Holy shit what a great stage show!' (did lots of pole work) & then would get themselves a drink but not offer me one. Often that was the first indicator not only that the customer was damn inconsiderate, but also cheap.

    Orange juice was always my drink of choice, unless the club sold non-alcoholic commission drinks, as I did not imbibe at work. I might order five or six while sitting w/ the same customer (went thru them pretty quick, I was a thirsty girl lol) but always made sure to show the customer how much I appreciated it.
    Actually, I'd probably be strangely turned on if I saw a stripper start guzzling down multiple non-alcoholic drinks (short of slurping it...well even then)...if they had to down 3-4 alcoholic drinks before going to VIP with me, I'd probably be insulted (do you really need to numb yourself that much to go back there), but with OJ/water, if done with flourish...great pre-sell (even if it's just a tease).

    But yeah, that would suck to watch a custie order a drink without offering after coming off-stage. I do agree 100 percent that dancers asking for a drink isn't going to win many custies over, but if I'm ordering, and I'm interested enough to talk to you, hell yes I'm asking you for a drink too... if the dancer is approaching me and I'm not interested, best to not order anything then, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    i have never asked for a drink, nor care if i get one ( i hate alcohol), but yeah a customer not offering when the waitress comes by is a clear sign of rudeness, cheapness. When a guy buys me a drink i assume he's down for getting dances also. and even when i don't want a drink i will order one, as turning down one is very rude imo.even if its a water i will say yes.
    drinks themselves really mean nothing to me, truth be told i'd rather just have the money ( although i would never say so). its the guy offering them that counts
    Thx - that's what I was wondering. I'm obviously buying a drink to let them know I'm interested in dances/etc., but I'm just getting warmed up, and frankly, I'd rather they not be dying of thirst going into the VIP (LOL). Since I prefer the experience to either be (or appear to be) mutually enjoyable, it's an easy first way to show a little respect - which goes a long way.

    I'm surprised to hear you'd accept a drink even if you didn't want one - although the water choice does always impress me, since it implied moderation/not getting trying to get completely hammered on the custie's dime.

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    Agree w/ Simone on taking them up on their offer of *smtg* as it is rude to turn it down -- that said, I have had customers get offended & even send me away when I insisted on smtg non-alcoholic (just for me I mean, they could get hammered to their hearts content lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocanucks View Post
    So, a topic I've heard a lot from the custy's side, but curious about from the other side...buying drinks.

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    So, what do you say?
    If I find a dancer attractive, then within a minute of her coming over, I ask her if she would dance for me, or if she would prefer a drink first. Most want to just get to the dancing. But many will want a drink after the dances. A dancer's mood is mostly based on what percentage of her goal for that night she's made so far. It's just common sense to do an convo after the dancing for it to be more fun. Sometimes dancers will just say goodbye and move on, usually because they see the next prospect waiting. But often they'll come back later for a drink while they're waiting for the next prospect. The key to good dancer convo is, get it when she won't be feeling like she's loosing money by spending time talking to you.

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    I love drinking with the girls, so I'm always wondering why in the world wouldn't you buy her a drink? 'course, I'm the opposite problem from a dancer's perspective: I'll ask her to do shots right away, and if she declines, I'll politely extricate myself and move on.

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    I say no ALL THE TIME. If the waitress is there and the customer or waitress asks I order a bottle of water. I tell them I only have a drink in VIP. I do not understand why you would think drinks are important?
    There are some clubs that offer kickbacks on drinks, but they are usually the juice bars and it is not much money- I will just give it to the waitstaff if I am making good money.
    Money is important.

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    I always have at least a bottle of something in the DR so it's not really necessary. If we're going into VIP for a half hour it would be nice if you bought me a drink, common courtesy. But most of the time I would honestly prefer you give me whatever you were gonna spend on the drink in cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    Agree w/ Simone on taking them up on their offer of *smtg* as it is rude to turn it down -- that said, I have had customers get offended & even send me away when I insisted on smtg non-alcoholic (just for me I mean, they could get hammered to their hearts content lol).
    Wow, to me, that seems a bit crazy - I guess they're more there to try and be a PUA, and don't want to spend the $ on VIP. I really offer it as a chance to get warmed up, and also to make sure she's comfortable - most of the times my VIP choices come after I see someone on stage first (I rarely just pick someone out of the crowd, since I come in from out of town on my visits, and even if I've been there before, have no idea who's there that night).

    Quote Originally Posted by ytqclys View Post
    If I find a dancer attractive, then within a minute of her coming over, I ask her if she would dance for me, or if she would prefer a drink first. Most want to just get to the dancing. But many will want a drink after the dances. A dancer's mood is mostly based on what percentage of her goal for that night she's made so far. It's just common sense to do an convo after the dancing for it to be more fun. Sometimes dancers will just say goodbye and move on, usually because they see the next prospect waiting. But often they'll come back later for a drink while they're waiting for the next prospect. The key to good dancer convo is, get it when she won't be feeling like she's loosing money by spending time talking to you.
    I realize the way I choose who I'd like to go to VIP (usually after stage tipping and asking them to come over & see me after) - they always seemed happy. But yeah, them thinking you might be wasting their time isn't a smart move either - so I like your approach. Once they realize they're not going to have their time wasted, then it's all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    I always have at least a bottle of something in the DR so it's not really necessary. If we're going into VIP for a half hour it would be nice if you bought me a drink, common courtesy. But most of the time I would honestly prefer you give me whatever you were gonna spend on the drink in cash.
    I guess it's more timing with me, since it's usually after stage. But I'll start offering before/after first, and man up about lack of warm-up.

    How often do custies actually JUST offer a drink and no dance? Kinda surprised anyone actually does that (short of being a regular with some sort of "relationship" - mostly in their minds, I'm guessing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocanucks View Post
    How often do custies actually JUST offer a drink and no dance? Kinda surprised anyone actually does that (short of being a regular with some sort of "relationship" - mostly in their minds, I'm guessing).
    Heck, I do that all the time. If the dancer likes to drink I just open a tab and tell her to freely order. There are a lot of dancers that like to drink and get very appreciative of an "all you can drink" customer. Total cost to me is like $50 for the night and very rarely not worth it. I want her relaxed and enjoying herself not trying to maximize nightly income. In places where dancer drinks are like $30 with the women making $10-20 each its part of their job to hustle drinks. Then the drinks are how they tip for time. So letting them order say $150 worth of drinks over a few hour stretch ends and then me tipping for time on top even if it is less makes them very appreciative.

    I don't see much reason not to be generous with alcohol. What's the downside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightwish View Post
    Heck, I do that all the time. If the dancer likes to drink I just open a tab and tell her to freely order. There are a lot of dancers that like to drink and get very appreciative of an "all you can drink" customer. Total cost to me is like $50 for the night and very rarely not worth it. I want her relaxed and enjoying herself not trying to maximize nightly income. In places where dancer drinks are like $30 with the women making $10-20 each its part of their job to hustle drinks. Then the drinks are how they tip for time. So letting them order say $150 worth of drinks over a few hour stretch ends and then me tipping for time on top even if it is less makes them very appreciative.

    I don't see much reason not to be generous with alcohol. What's the downside?
    I'm not a regular, I only go to the same club in 1 city maybe 2x (odd year 3x) a year. I get being liberal with alcohol if someone is coming by who knows you - but is that all the time, or just slow hours?

    I've been to clubs that charge $20-30 for a drink - they are also charging 20-30 a dance. At 150 for a few hours, and a 50 tip (just saying) - that's $200 - but only 50 in their pockets. Now, if they're just there for a quick 5 mins while they talk and scan the room, and then don't come back until they're done and re-scanning, I get how that would work. Otherwise, 200 for 2-3 hours - even at 20/dance, and the club taking 15 percent, that's 45 minutes of time. I couldn't see how any dancer would spend even an hour with only 50 but liquored up, unless it was really slow.

    I'm not a regular custie, so I appreciate the different perspective. I don't know how many dancers without some sort of familiarity and understanding that they could jet on a moment's notice would see that as plan A/B. I'm all for buying drinks but really if I only wanted drinks and convo I would go to a bar. I love the convo to add to the experience but I'm not there just for the convo - and for me it's just a lead-in to the main experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gocanucks View Post
    I'm not a regular, I only go to the same club in 1 city maybe 2x (odd year 3x) a year. I get being liberal with alcohol if someone is coming by who knows you - but is that all the time, or just slow hours?
    I generally avoid busy clubs. But for a busy club alcohol is more important if anything. The dancer I'd be going for is one who isn't in the mood to hustle anymore. She's hit her quota. She's physically exhausted. She's had it with obnoxious customers that don't know the strip club game. There isn't much point in giving alcohol to a busy dancer who wants to hustle that's just you putting her in a position where she constantly has to be deciding if you are or or not a worthwhile prospect and you making it confusing. So if you get the dancer and she drinks, alcohol is going to help her take the edge off.

    Quote Originally Posted by gocanucks View Post
    I've been to clubs that charge $20-30 for a drink - they are also charging 20-30 a dance. At 150 for a few hours, and a 50 tip (just saying) - that's $200 - but only 50 in their pockets.
    If the drinks are $20-30 the dancer is usually making a commission on drinks. So for example if the same drink for you would be $8 that extra $22 has to go somewhere and it generally isn't 100% to the club. If on the other hand the club just charges $25 / drink (say New York of Vegas) that's just a pricey club. Same logic likely applies about an open bar bill but everything is just more expensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by gocanucks View Post
    Now, if they're just there for a quick 5 mins while they talk and scan the room, and then don't come back until they're done and re-scanning, I get how that would work. Otherwise, 200 for 2-3 hours - even at 20/dance, and the club taking 15 percent, that's 45 minutes of time. I couldn't see how any dancer would spend even an hour with only 50 but liquored up, unless it was really slow.
    If the club is busy enough with quality patrons that the dancer can be pulling down $200 in 45 minutes selling dances reliably then likely you can't do anything. There is no play for attention other than outspending the horde. Go to a different club. If you are going to stay, switch gears drink and enjoy the environment. Spend very little, keep your powder dry.

    So don't picture that type of situation. Picture 2 customers per dancer. Many of those have $50-200 in their pocket to last several hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by gocanucks View Post
    I don't know how many dancers without some sort of familiarity and understanding that they could jet on a moment's notice would see that as plan A/B.
    OK so a dancer jets and you are out for say 2 drinks at say $10 / ea. So what? You probably bought a dance or two, maybe tipped for time. The 2 drinks cost you 10% or so more and extended her stay. What's the downside?

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    This is the most over-thought thread I've seen in a while...and that's really saying something!

    A couple of observations from the table in the back...

    Be a gentleman, if you let a lady sit with you offer her a drink. It's not rocket science.

    Trying to use drinks to leverage time with a dancer is a joke that's totally on you. It will last until her feet don't hurt anymore or until she sees another opportunity to sell a dance.
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    I keep the two separate. I buy drinks for girls whom I wouldn't buy dances and dances from girls whom I wouldn't buy drinks. I enjoy my dancers sober and awkward paying cash for just talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocanucks View Post

    How often do custies actually JUST offer a drink and no dance? Kinda surprised anyone actually does that (short of being a regular with some sort of "relationship" - mostly in their minds, I'm guessing).
    A lot.

    That or they say "why should I tip you I just bought you a drink?"

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    I find it offensive that a woman would have to buy her own drinks

    Within reason I will buy a drink for anyone who asks, and most who don't. I do not make a show of it but if I know her, she is unattended and dry, I will buy a drink.

    If you are that freakin broke find alternate entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocanucks View Post
    How often do custies actually JUST offer a drink and no dance? Kinda surprised anyone actually does that (short of being a regular with some sort of "relationship" - mostly in their minds, I'm guessing).
    It seems like a total waste of time to me as well though, clearly, there are guys who go to strip clubs strictly with this in mind. My regs have no use for guys like this but some gals put less value on their hustle time than others do. It's really on the girls to not waste their time with a guy who isn't spending on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldster View Post
    I find it offensive that a woman would have to buy her own drinks

    Within reason I will buy a drink for anyone who asks, and most who don't. I do not make a show of it but if I know her, she is unattended and dry, I will buy a drink.

    If you are that freakin broke find alternate entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightwish View Post
    Heck, I do that all the time. If the dancer likes to drink I just open a tab and tell her to freely order. There are a lot of dancers that like to drink and get very appreciative of an "all you can drink" customer. Total cost to me is like $50 for the night and very rarely not worth it. I want her relaxed and enjoying herself not trying to maximize nightly income. In places where dancer drinks are like $30 with the women making $10-20 each its part of their job to hustle drinks. Then the drinks are how they tip for time. So letting them order say $150 worth of drinks over a few hour stretch ends and then me tipping for time on top even if it is less makes them very appreciative.

    I don't see much reason not to be generous with alcohol. What's the downside?
    I have to agree with pretty much all of this. I do most of my interacting with dancers at the bar and the ones who I spend the most time with are those who enjoy the combination of drinks and some additional tipping for time. My bar tab can get up there quickly on some nights, but rarely has it not been worth it. Now I also tend to visit on slower nights, which doesn't hurt either. I am really not a fan of LDs, so this is a way in which I can interact with and pay dancers for entertaining me.

    As one of numerous examples, in one of my local clubs, a very attractive dancer with expensive tastes in alcohol will sit with me for the first 30 or 40 minutes of her shift and use my tab to get buzzed, consuming two or even three mixed drinks in that timeframe. Apparently she needs to get fortified before starting her shift, lol. I do this for her not only because of how attractive she is, but also because she is very entertaining. I also give her an additional tip, when she leaves, for the entertainment value. It is a win-win in my book.

    With some other girls who enjoy this type of thing, I am happy to feed them alcohol and 20s if they are entertaining me. Nobody will ever make a fortune off of me in this manner, but I've tipped as much as $200 barside over a couple of hours, in addition to the drinks of course. On a slow club night, that is not a bad take for 2 hours (of a 6 or 7 hour shift) for drinking and general light duty. What helps me pull this off is that I do this with zero pressure. I have no issues if she needs to give someone a dance (or do whatever else she needs to do) and wishes to return after, so two hours of time with my favorite dancer might actually be spaced over 3 hours or so. Again, it is not everyone's cup of tea, but it works out well for me in certain circumstances and I don't think that it is the worst deal for the dancers involved either.

    Truth be told, I don't even care if she is nursing her drinks and/or getting fake drinks, which I can often pick up on. So long as she is making the effort to seem like she is joining me, and is otherwise fun, I am happy with it.

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    "Nobody will ever make a fortune off of me in this manner"... "tipped as much as $200 barside over a couple of hours." "a slow club night.. not a bad take for 2 hours."

    Do you realize, rick, that for some dancers in some clubs, $200 wouldn't be a "bad" take for an entire shift.
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    Default Re: Buying Drinks

    1. Assuming you get paid for your time (realizing that matters most of all), how much does getting drinks increase/not affect your opinion of the experience?
    Frankly as long as the guy gets dances,and or a VIP I could care less if he got me a drink or not. I mean if we are sitting with each other before hand for a bit of time (over 15 min) and we have talked about dances or vip "yes I want one just in a bit" I would appreciate a drink at least, thne we could go. but if you go within the 3-4 song time I chat with you I don't care. Now if you want me to sit with you after and chat, but dont plan on getting more dances or vip then yes i would need a drink, and you to un derstand that if someone comes in that is interested in spending money on me that is what i'm here for.


    2. Do you go for your "favorite" drink, no matter the cost, or go for something more reasonable if it's being paid at the start, so as to not scare off custies from a bigger payout later?

    I love grey goose and redbull. but I will often order vodka redbull because frankly....I can't tell the difference when you mix it. It is only if i have it on the rocks i care. now if your being a dbag...sorry i'm going to order a 17$ drink just cuz I dont thik you'd get a dane anyways but i wanna make you suffer, so I'd take the drink and leave.

    3. Is there a time most would expect to "refresh" an order if it's been a while? I mean, some of the workouts I've had done are pretty intense.

    Well if you are in a vip or a dance area, the girl is probably comfortable enought to let you know when she needs one. at least i do. if your sitting at the bar. . if hre drink is empty, and you are getting yourself one.... offer her another one. . if she finishes hers before yours. . . up to your discresion.

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