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    Dizzy SM - what is the norm?

    I just started on SM about three weeks ago. I've been getting a lot of guys trying to "help" telling me what I should/shouldn't do and what to charge for my rates. I wanted to ask you ladies to get a more vanilla answer haha

    So after a week I had to change my anal in private to only anal in exclusive. I was just way to worn out. I started out by charging 2.99/3.99 and it seems to be going good. One guy is telling me that I need to change them to 3.99/5.99 and no fetishes in private, only vanilla with small toys. Big toys, anal, fetishes for exclusive only (Have not changed that yet). But I also decided no cam2cam in private only exclusive because when I wasn't doing c2c it seemed like I could get 2 or 3 guys in a private at the same time, yet when there was another cam on they booked it out of there faster than hot sauce. I thought there might be something too it.

    What do you ladies charge for rates? What do you do in private/exclusive? Is there a "norm" around Streamate?

    Also what do you do about the "stand bb", "show your boobs and then i'll take you exclusive, I want to know what im working with first", "show ass bb" guys? I'm too nice and shy.. the couple times I gave in they left like expected so I know now that they are full of crap.

    I also feel like since I just started I don't have the regulars that would pay 3.99/5.99. I'm starting to feel like I'm lost at this I feel really burnt out after a couple hours, I have no idea how some ladies could do this full time! I'm wondering if I'm doing something seriously wrong.

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    Default Re: SM - what is the norm?

    For the stand bb etc guys, I say "tip, bb" right back. It's a flat 5gold for me to do any reasonable request in free chat(which I have in my topic and a saved text that I spam when asked that). Rarely do guys ask me to stand when they tip, but they do from time to time. Mostly it's just for tits or ass.

    I do generally what that one guy told you to do for private and exclusive. For me it's pussy play and stripping in private. I say toys only in exc in my profile, but I'll use toys if I feel like it. For any fetish at all, cam2cam, phone or clothing changes, they have to go exclusive. Anal is something I'll only do in exclusive blocks because it lets me warm up and know how much time I have to do it so I don't feel rushed or feel like I'm wasting their time.

    If you have HD, sound and good internet, you should charge at least 3.99/4.99 imho since you are offering a better experience. Also, it seems you get less of the asshole "harder, faster" guys as your rates increase.

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    Default Re: SM - what is the norm?

    - Stop listening to customers (or men in general) regarding your business. Even if they didn't have an agenda (they do) they have no idea what they're talking about.

    - I haven't worked SM for a while but when I did I charged 4.99/5.99 with no toys and no anal. I did vanilla finger play, c2c, and general requests in pvt, fetishes/roleplay/specific requests in exclusive. Doing it this way resulted in most of my shows being exclusives. If you make more money in premium, stick with that. Slowly raise your rates to find your sweet spot.

    - You're working a site that allows tips. Take advantage of that. They want something in free chat? Ask for a tip. "Sure sweetie, I'd love to, it's 5 gold!" I charged 5 gold for standing/feet/covered ass/misc requests and 10 gold for a quick boob flash, with a few takers a shift. The "show me x and I'll go pvt" guys are ALWAYS full of shit. They're just trying to get off for free. Don't fall for it.

    Re: feeling burnt out... I used to feel that way when I was doing a lot of masturbation-based shows. It was exhausting and boring to me. I couldn't wait for long pvts to be over. Now that I focus more on fetish/fantasy/dirty talk I can go for waaaay longer and it's actually fun and stimulating.

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    Also not to mention if they ask for x then they will pay $x
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    Default Re: SM - what is the norm?

    Thank you! I have found that I enjoy fetish shows more. I actually enjoy them rather than me shoving a dildo in my snatch over and over again which is not pleasant for me haha. I feel so burnt out after! I'm really bad at dirty talk though. The one time a guy said he enjoyed my dirty talk is when I read a script online... someone needs to make more of those i'd pay good money for them haha.
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    - Stop listening to customers (or men in general) regarding your business. Even if they didn't have an agenda (they do) they have no idea what they're talking about.

    - I haven't worked SM for a while but when I did I charged 4.99/5.99 with no toys and no anal. I did vanilla finger play, c2c, and general requests in pvt, fetishes/roleplay/specific requests in exclusive. Doing it this way resulted in most of my shows being exclusives. If you make more money in premium, stick with that. Slowly raise your rates to find your sweet spot.

    - You're working a site that allows tips. Take advantage of that. They want something in free chat? Ask for a tip. "Sure sweetie, I'd love to, it's 5 gold!" I charged 5 gold for standing/feet/covered ass/misc requests and 10 gold for a quick boob flash, with a few takers a shift. The "show me x and I'll go pvt" guys are ALWAYS full of shit. They're just trying to get off for free. Don't fall for it.

    Re: feeling burnt out... I used to feel that way when I was doing a lot of masturbation-based shows. It was exhausting and boring to me. I couldn't wait for long pvts to be over. Now that I focus more on fetish/fantasy/dirty talk I can go for waaaay longer and it's actually fun and stimulating.

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    I'm sure this is the EXCEPTION but today there was a guy who wanted me to show my ass and he would take me exclusive and I said that I would for 5 gold. We went back and forth for a while with me telling him I was sure he was full of crap, and him swearing that he wasn't. It was fun and playful and finally I just did a quick flash and surprise surprise he took me exclusive for 20 minutes... so that was kind of refreshing haha that he wasn't a liar. Maybe he usually is and I caught him on a good day haha.
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    Also not to mention if they ask for x then they will pay $x
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    Default Re: SM - what is the norm?

    I just want to add that even though You want to do certain things in exclusive only, and You have it not only in your room topic box, but also verbally tell them, guys will just take You premium, and expect things you only do in exclusive.
    I used to stop them, and say they must pop out of the prvt., then take me exclusive,
    Most times they just left.
    With SM being finicky these day, its best to just do the request in premium.
    If it's a new sm customer, he might not have the ability to go exclusive yet.
    I say, 'a bird in the hand', goes a long way with camming. I'm going to get their money, one way or another. Plus, another guy, or guys will usually pop into your premium anyway, so you will be making sometimes more than if You were in exclusive.
    If they ask for anal, just fake it. (I think there are threads on here with how to do that), and more.
    I do mostly roleplay and fetish, so I just do them in premium, because of the reasons I listed above.
    I would also try making premium rates higher than exclusive, if that's what you feel comfy with. that works well on certain days as well.

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    Default Re: SM - what is the norm?

    I think that it really depends on what you're charging w/r/t doing the request in premium vs asking them to go exclusive. Like, sometimes I will do it because one in the hand is worth two in the bush but only near the end of my shift. I don't want guys to think that they don't have to take me to the right place for the right experience as I think that this is slight scamming and definitely taking advantage. I don't fall for that shit.

    I would increase your prices to at LEAST 3.99/4.99 BUT if you have everything all set up and your cam quality / lights / everything are good, I think that you should raise to 4.99/whatever. If you don't think that you are worth it no one will but imo, the higher the price the better the show quality.
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    ^^I agree. Raise your premium to at least $4.99, and You will set the bar at an even level. If You are charging too low, it's harder to raise them after You get regulars who are used to the old rates.

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    I read this thread and tried 4.99/6.99 today for a couple hours, in classic chat.Best hourly average this week! I make sure to remind them that for private it's just the BASICS, masturbating, bjs, teasing...I used to charge about the same for both chats but I'm sticking to this for a bit..it worked today and Wednesday are usually slow.
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    For the "show ass/tits BB" I say "Only if I get to see your dick first, girl has needs too"... You won't believe how many exclusives I have gotten out of it, since it's the only way to open cam... Of course some just send pics or leave, but at least the room gets a kick out of it and I get a few more pvts, even if it's 3min long... whatever...

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