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    Default International Camgirls and Payoneer!!!

    Hey ladies!
    Just a quick post.. I reecently spoke to a camgirl who lives in Australia and cams on chaturbate who gets her payment thru payoneer. They cancelled her account because they no longer accept adultwork for international accounts [see the Payoneer US Payment Service TOS for details]
    Soooo if you live outside US/CANADA and recieve any adult related funds from payoneer.. you should change payment processors. Apparently it's a NEW thing so I wasn't sure how many of your international girls use payoneer or even know [ it was a total surprise to the particular camgirl I spoke to so..]

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    I am international & my account looks all right, no news from Payoneer at all about new regulations!? I start to freak out cause i just cant deal with checks here or wire, i NEED the Payoneer card!

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    I donīt have any news from Payoneer yet. Now Iīm really scared...

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    Default Re: International Camgirls and Payoneer!!!

    Well there goes 90% of the performers on LJ!

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    Sounds a bit scary. Check and wire have huge expenses for us living overseas. Won't be too happy if the choices are even more limited than they were before.

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    How does this makes any sense for a service like payoneer to pay US/Canada adult work performers but not the international ones?! You sure ur info is accurate? Maybe they closed her account cause of 'other reasons'? I also got rejected/ deleted a cam site recently for no obvious reason... can u post a link to look up at?

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    Default Re: International Camgirls and Payoneer!!!

    My payoneer is still active for now. I just asked streamate support about it, hopefully they will give an usefull answer

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    I looked up my ImLive account, LJ account, SM account, no news about Payoneer changing regulations, i bet if that was the case all these sites would know about it & inform their performers, no site wants pissed off performers not able to cash their money, as it was said above on some sites payoneer is used almost exclusively as payment method; i dont know what the catch is with the aussie performer but i dont see payoneer doing such a drastic change in regulations without informing cam sites at 1st at least & their members. Weird!

    ETA: i remember it was said in here about how Payoneer dont really like the direct money transfers from private people to cam performers, i mean if the number of direct transfers is bigger than the number of payments from cam sites then they might take some actions. Still they prefer cam performers to be paid by cam sites it was said in this forum a while ago. I hope this is the case.
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    I hope they closed her account for other reasons.
    Nissim should be able to clarify if Payoneer is really going to close the doors to us non US/Canadian camgirls. Anyway, I exchanged some message with him today because I lost my card (argh!), need a new one and had not received an answer from the support yet, and he didn't mention anything about that.
    Cross fingers...

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    I just contacted Livejasmin Support and they said that they donīt have any issues with Payoneer, that it must be some misunderstanding. They said that if her account was closed she can open a new one...

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    I can see them clamping down on private loads, and even going so far as suspending an account for abusing it, but I don't see them losing a huge chunk of their business being the main providers for a lot of camming sites. I guess its possible, but you think there would have been some kind of warning about this from our legal eagles around here.

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    Yeah I bet she was taking private loads. They don't want the chargeback risk apparently.


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    Default Re: International Camgirls and Payoneer!!!

    Hi, I am writing this message in hope that you can please offer me some much needed help.

    I found Payoneer via Streamate who I was originally going to join as a webcam model. However, I then decided to join IFriends instead and am now trying to finalise the set-up of my Payoneer account so that I can receive my payments. I also need to use Payoneer for MANY other sites too, who I sell my products and services via.

    I know that most camming sites offer Payoneer as their method of paying international models, I am in the UK, cannot accept US dollar cheques and need to use Payoneer.

    However, today I received this email from Payoneer, which has both made me feel very stressed and very confused as I hav put a lot of hard work, time and effort into my business:

    Dear (my name),
    Response (12/21/2014 05:26 PM)

    The US Payment Service enables you to receive payments from any US company, in accordance with our Terms and Conditions.
    Please note that certain services or activities are restricted, such as obscene or pornographic items, adult businesses or adult related services, including escort services, adult massage, or other adult-entertainment services, adult performer regardless of sexual orientation. For a full list of prohibited services click here and refer to section 5.
    We apologize for the inconvenience, and remind you that you can continue using your account to receive payments from any companies in accordance with our Terms and Conditions.




    Sincerely,

    Ivon

    Customer Service



    Date Created: 12/17/2014 05:15 PM
    Date Last Updated: 12/21/2014 05:26 PM


    So what can I do and why is this the case when so many sites offer Payoneer? It does not make any sense.

    I would so appreciate your help as I am now completely stuck and this issue has but all of my work at risk.

    Thanks xxx
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    I believe this is in regards to the Global Transfer accounts, which allows you to transfer funds from your Payoneer account directly into your international/UK bank account. A standard Payoneer account where you only have/use a card to withdraw and pay bills, is still ok.
    I have a standard payoneer account but wanted to add the US Payment Service. I found Payoneer very difficult to deal with. I was sent the same message as you so I questioned them on why so many girls have and use payoneer cards for adult transactions and why the US Payment Service won't/can't accept the same. This is the last response I recieved:

    Response (12/09/2014 05:54 AM)
    Thousands of girls are using Payoneer Mastercard with the service to receive payments from companies. Not from the US payment service.
    Sadly we cant help you anymore regarding this issue.
    Sincerely,
    Ariel
    Customer Service

    So I take that as it's ok to use a card but not the Global/US Payment Service



    Quote Originally Posted by MelantheDivine View Post
    Hi, I am writing this message in hope that you can please offer me some much needed help.

    I found Payoneer via Streamate who I was originally going to join as a webcam model. However, I then decided to join IFriends instead and am now trying to finalise the set-up of my Payoneer account so that I can receive my payments. I also need to use Payoneer for MANY other sites too, who I sell my products and services via.

    I know that most camming sites offer Payoneer as their method of paying international models, I am in the UK, cannot accept US dollar cheques and need to use Payoneer.

    However, today I received this email from Payoneer, which has both made me feel very stressed and very confused as I hav put a lot of hard work, time and effort into my business:

    Dear (my name),
    Response (12/21/2014 05:26 PM)

    The US Payment Service enables you to receive payments from any US company, in accordance with our Terms and Conditions.
    Please note that certain services or activities are restricted, such as obscene or pornographic items, adult businesses or adult related services, including escort services, adult massage, or other adult-entertainment services, adult performer regardless of sexual orientation. For a full list of prohibited services click here and refer to section 5.
    We apologize for the inconvenience, and remind you that you can continue using your account to receive payments from any companies in accordance with our Terms and Conditions.




    Sincerely,

    Ivon

    Customer Service



    Date Created: 12/17/2014 05:15 PM
    Date Last Updated: 12/21/2014 05:26 PM


    So what can I do and why is this the case when so many sites offer Payoneer? It does not make any sense.

    I would so appreciate your help as I am now completely stuck and this issue has but all of my work at risk.

    Thanks xxx
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    Hi and thanks for your reply. It is just so unfair really and so stupid! I am now waiting and worrying, as cannot be paid any other way! xxx The adult industry makes up such a huge volume of the markets regarding online payments, quite how any company can remove themselves from this market is crazy. Even with the chargebacks, surely there is a decent profit to be made? xxx
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    I'll try to very carefully point out the following. As of January 1st, FACTA regulations take effect on all foreign banks / financial institutions which are party to US FACTA 'co-operation'. Without wanting to raise any undue concern, FACTA now poses new regulatory and reporting requirements on foreign banks / financial institutions in regard to moneys originating from US based companies being transferred to 'foreign' businesses / residents. It's possible that some foreign banks / financial institutions are choosing to side-step these new regulatory and reporting requirements by simply choosing to no longer handle such transfers. However, visa and mastercard are US financial institutions ... which may provide a 'technicality'.
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    So let me get this straight: If I use a Payoneer account and every month dump the money on my Payoner into my Bank account, it is possible that my Payoneer account might get closed?


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    ^^^ assuming that your bank is located somewhere outside the USA, after January 1st it would apparently be up to your 'foreign' bank to either jump through the necessary FACTA compliance 'hoops', or to refuse to accept a transfer of funds originating from a US payer company. I don't think that Payoneer plays any direct role.

    Also, if no transfer to your 'foreign' bank is made, thanks to the 'technicality' of visa and mastercard being US financial institutions, it's possible that the ability to spend money in your 'foreign' country via a Payoneer card will remain unaffected. This would appear to be the 'gist' of the Payoneer customer service responses above.

    Hopefully Nissim can clarify.
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    Well, it's not like I can open an account at Bank of America to deposit the funds there and just bring the money into Mexico. That'd be money laundering on their eyes.
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