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    Question Making my own webcam platform?

    Hello ladies,

    I have been a veteran member but made a new account for this thread for privacy reasons. (competing paymeny processor has my personal details and is not afraid to use them against me)

    I have been thinking about making my own payment website for camming and started brainstorming about how it would work and what problems I would come across.
    After a while I though... why not make my own cam website?! Sure, it might never grow as big as SM or other big names, but that doesn't mean the girls on the site can't get a fulltime income out of there.

    My boyfriend is a software developer and webdeveloper and can take care of all the technical stuff.
    I am a experience cam girl and know what I expect and would want from a camming platform, plus I would cam on the platform myself so I would know what girls are experiencing.

    - 65% payment for models
    - Weekly pay or everyday-payment option
    - No free chat
    - Not just blonde petite girls on the front row - Profile positioning should be based on the minutes you've been logged in. Girls that have been online for 15 minutes without a custie should go top row. Girls that just logged in 1 minute ago should be in the back. Unless the search option is used.
    - No Chargebacks - unless model streams a video etc.
    - No bullshit support like SM has "are you connected to the internet?"

    - Maybe even an integration with big box websites so can you receive your money daily from this website + for example SM?

    - Would you like to set your own price per minute or have everyone work on the same price per minute?
    Pro: No undercutting / competition price wise and no "bb please lower price i only have 5ct left" Con: no option to to raise your price if youre very populair.

    My online problem is... traffic.
    I have a budget to give this website a little headstart, but no massive budget to put advertises on the radio / tv or to put banners on massive porn websites.

    Would this be a problem for you? Would you maybe even direct traffic to the website through Twitter etc if you've got a good camming experience and a good pay out?
    Is there anything you are missing from other cam platforms that could makes this camming heaving for models?
    Any of my ideas that you think are silly or unnecessary?

    Thank you.
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    Default Re: Making my own webcam platform?

    I hate to say it because I hate free chat but I think for a brand new cam site to survive you should have free chat. When bringing new traffic even if the traffic comes from already established camgirl clients, new customers are going to be skeptical since this a brand new site. I think for the first while to establish your site free chat would be needed to prove models are online, that they're real and it's not a scam etc


    Also the positioning you are talking about - so you're saying if a girl doesn't get a customer for 15 minutes she will be top row for more exposure? What if this girl isn't popular and doesn't get customers for a hours at a time? Top models will not be pleased to be bumped to the back, and the unpopular model having the top row placement. I think this should still be the same as Streamate for placement and vary on a few factors.


    Otherwise I am liking your ideas so far

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    Default Re: Making my own webcam platform?

    Google Adwords? Not sure if the adult stuff is allowed tho but I ve seen ads for adults sites there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TattooedBBW View Post
    I hate to say it because I hate free chat but I think for a brand new cam site to survive you should have free chat. When bringing new traffic even if the traffic comes from already established camgirl clients, new customers are going to be skeptical since this a brand new site. I think for the first while to establish your site free chat would be needed to prove models are online, that they're real and it's not a scam etc
    Otherwise I am liking your ideas so far
    I was thinking that, too.
    But I know a lot of european cam websites don't offer free chat and have no problems being legit. It might be solved with proper and professional branding.

    Or maybe a box on the side with 1 free chat that will last a maximum of 5 minutes (so everyone has to do 5 min free chat a day) with no nudity etc - just chatting.
    Or maybe a max of 30 seconds free chat on every model before paying.

    Would love to hear more ideas from everyone about that.

    I'm pretty sure google ads do not allow 18+ links.
    My boyfriend is pretty good at SEO but it's hard to competite with brands like SM who have thousands of white lables and pretty much own the keywords "webcam sex" and similar things.

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    ^ I also edited my post to include a question for the placement

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    Default Re: Making my own webcam platform?

    About the position:
    The idea of the position train is so that everyone shifts through the position places. That way every girl gets a chance to have a top spot until a custie comes in.
    The thing I dislike is that the top earning girls are always on top which means the girls that maybe online work the weekends or are just not as hardcore will always be in the back and making less.

    To me it would make more sense if there would be a menu bar where guys can just click "bbw - domina - teens - hardcore - ebony" to get the girls that match their wishes.
    Then on the lading page of the website it's just the positioning train where everyone gets a fair shot. On the category pages the top girls will be on top.

    This is just my idea though, if it doesn't work for other girls please let me know.

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    Default Re: Making my own webcam platform?

    I love this idea.. I think a small start up is just what is needed. you can DM me.. I'd LOVE to be on board.. and can help since I don't have a "home site" at the moment..

    -S

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    Default Re: Making my own webcam platform?

    Prior to the introduction of the Section 2257 law, I used to operate an independent webcam platform in conjunction with a pay website. I was already having financial difficulties at that time due to the rising cost of internet backbone bandwidth and server hosting. When Section 2257 effectively made me a 'porn producer' ... thus potentially subject to federal felony 'sex crime' charges if Section 2257 records weren't in order ... as well as exposing myself to 'warrantless' searches at any time for the supposed purpose of checking 2257 records ... I dropped both the pay website and independent webcam platform in favor of 3rd party hosting.

    IMHO these days the only way that an independent webcam platform can really be 'competitive' is to reach an 'economy of scale' such that the costs of internet backbone bandwidth / server hosting, Section 2257 record keeping services, paid webcam host advertising on other sites, accounting and tax reporting costs, online credit card processing service charges, etc. can be 'spread' over a large number of camgirls. Before making any commitments, you really owe it to yourself to get some cost estimates and 'crunch the numbers'.

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    Default Re: Making my own webcam platform?

    Honestly, unless a website had traffic, I or anyone wouldn't go near it so yes, lack of traffic would be a BIG problem. What's 65% of $0? Anyone can host JCI software on their own website and get like 70-80% and bring their own traffic to their site and won't have to share with other cammodels.




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    Default Re: Making my own webcam platform?

    You would need traffic.
    Traffic - traffic - traffic. If you've got that, you're golden.

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    Default Re: Making my own webcam platform?

    My 2 cents on free chat: I think free chat sucks, but it's also a good thing in some ways. I think that the ideal free chat situation, at least in my opinion, would be to allow each customer a maximum of 5 minutes in free chat with any one model. If they want more time with that model, they have to pay for it.

    As for setting your own pricing, I think models should be able to set their own prices, but have decent minimums. Not too low. It's one thing to undercut the competition, it's another thing to go so low that other girls can't possibly compete.

    I know it's gonna take a LOT to make any new cam site a success, but I'm all for encouraging more cammers to run this industry. We have way too many sites run by people who are so far removed from the models. We need more stuff like this. Good luck!

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    It's best to offer free and paid only. Like JCI. Girls in free chat should be shown at the top and girls in paid chat should be shown lower with both being on the front page. The girls who get a paid show should drop down to the bottom next to girls waiting in paid only for shows. It should say "In A Paid Session" or "In Group Show" or something like AW. The page should refresh quite often.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Milaa View Post
    You would need traffic.
    Traffic - traffic - traffic. If you've got that, you're golden.
    Yes, that's the #2 problem, but I think the #1 issue is being overlooked.

    How will you get and keep a payment processor that allows adult without investing thousands of dollars and how will you manage to pay that high percent when you are going to get hit with chargebacks just like every other adult site does? If it goes above a certain percentage of chargebacks you not only lose that money and get hit with the extra fees (I think it used to be $40 extra plus the money you lost) if you go above 3 to 5% total volume of chargebacks they will often drop you completely and close your account, leaving you with no way to accept payments.

    I'd love to see you succeed but it's a big issue to overcome. Even huge sites that used to pay 50% have been either forced out of business or reduced their payout percentage due to the way credit card companies handle adult transactions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Yes, that's the #2 problem, but I think the #1 issue is being overlooked.

    How will you get and keep a payment processor that allows adult without investing thousands of dollars and how will you manage to pay that high percent when you are going to get hit with chargebacks just like every other adult site does? If it goes above a certain percentage of chargebacks you not only lose that money and get hit with the extra fees (I think it used to be $40 extra plus the money you lost) if you go above 3 to 5% total volume of chargebacks they will often drop you completely and close your account, leaving you with no way to accept payments.

    I'd love to see you succeed but it's a big issue to overcome. Even huge sites that used to pay 50% have been either forced out of business or reduced their payout percentage due to the way credit card companies handle adult transactions.
    I'm in Europe so that makes things a lot easier for me. All of the paid payment processors allow adult income.
    The one I am using now for indie Skype sessions is easy and you can just integrate it in your website or give a url to your payment page.

    It doesn't matter if this software gets used on 1 girl or 1000 girls, just the package will need to be upgraded.
    They only charge service fees per transaction.

    A creditcard company doing a chargeback is an other story. I know there are quite some European websites that leave out creditcard payments and only use things like phonepayments - ideal - clickbuy - sofort etc.
    It would mean a lot of US custies wouldn't be able to use the website then.

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