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    Default Making big money by just talking?

    There is this dancer at my club who is 50yrs old and not very attractive. I noticed that she never gets dances. She will just sit at the bar and chat with guys all night. (No champagne rooms either) I always assumed she just must not make that much money, but last night (Tuesday) she asked me how much I had made so far that night and I said I was at $300 and she said she was at $400 and was trying to make $300 more. And stated that "its been slow" I was really shocked to find out she was capable of making that kind of money. I responded with " but how? you haven't done any dances" To that she said she hates doing dances and going to the private room for a dance is "the walk of shame" I asked her if she negotiates a price to talk or flat out demands they give her money every couple songs, and she says she doesn't. So now i'm just baffled how she manages to get money like that out of guys for just hanging out at the bar drinking. If I could make good money without having to dance for it that would be awesome, my question is how does she do it?
    Any tips on how to achieve her gift of gab?

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    Default Re: Making big money by just talking?

    I have no conversation tips but that is a fucking ton of money to make just by chatting!!!
    Maybe she was lying to you about how much she made to try to intimidate you.

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    Default Re: Making big money by just talking?

    Quote Originally Posted by aperfectseal View Post
    Maybe she was lying to you about how much she made to try to intimidate you.
    Ding ding ding. Never trust what a dancer tells you she has earned, especially if she's asking you for your earnings too. Honestly, I find it's best to avoid talk of earnings altogether with fellow dancers. When asked, I just say that I can't complain or anything else non-committal. You're just opening yourself up to someone trying to steal from you or otherwise fuck you with IMO.

    That said, you CAN make money without doing dances. There are men who will certainly pay just to sit and chat. There have been a few threads on getting tipped to just sit and chat or selling blocks of time (be it on the floor or in the dance area) that may be of interest to you. Unless these girls are regulars and they have a system where she sits and chats and they give her some money (maybe upfront or when they're leaving), this girl is full of shit on all these customers just handing her money to sit and talk without any work on her end. Strip club customers just aren't wired that way in most clubs, you've gotta hustle them into it.

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    I'm gonna guess that was one big fat lie! I used to work with this girl who was like that, she hardly did any dances and she always claimed she went home with so much money. We were friends in the beginning but then I started to make a lot more than she did and things got awkward between us, she started being really bitchy to me and got clicky with some of the other girls at the club. When we would be counting our money to pay out she would go on and on about how she had only done 6 dances but she'd made $600 because this guy she sat with was handing her twenties. At first I believed her, but then one night I was sitting behind her and saw her talking to a customer for like twenty minutes... I asked her why she sat with him for so long (she didn't realize I was behind her) and she said he was handing her twenties. Well, I didn't see him hand her one bill in those twenty minutes and my club was DEAD so I would've seen it. Whenever someone tells me how much money they make I never believe them.

    In my years of dancing I can only count about 10 times I've been tipped more than $30 just to sit. Usually I just get a $20 bill and that's about it. I do know one girl at my club who had a customer who came in periodically and he would tip her $200 just to sit and talk, but even she said he was the only customer she had who was like that. In all honesty though, I prefer the idea of doing LD/VIP and just working the guy enough that all he wants to do is talk to me the whole time. That way I know I'm getting paid, it's easier to ask for tips for something like that, and I don't have to haggle over prices.

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    Default Re: Making big money by just talking?

    Since she 50 maybe she has worked in the club "forever" and she does have a string of regulars that are just tipping her to hang out. But I do think its more likely she is bullshitting.

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    Default Re: Making big money by just talking?

    Quote Originally Posted by aperfectseal View Post
    Maybe she was lying to you about how much she made to try to intimidate you.
    This is a very distinct possibility. She may also be getting paid to go away.

    Have you ever overheard what she was saying to her customers? There is a chance she is talking dirty and they are paying her for the dirty talk.

    I am that older stripper who isn't very attractive, and I use dirty talk to get guys into VIP. My club does not offer the option to buy off stage, so I have to get the guys back in the VIP in order to make any money at all. Also, being older, spending too much time on stage is really hard on the body. VIP is much easier physically than trying to make stage tips all night long.

    The fact that she asked you how much you were making is a red flag in my mind that she was trying to get into your head. I've done this in the past as a kind of psychological tactic. I didn't like myself when I resorted to those kind of head games. Now I just keep my mouth shut when I'm having a good day and only say anything about my earnings when the day is terrible.

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    Hi, yes you can smash it just talking, given that you can hold an interesting conversation. I make most my money talking and getting 50 cash every 20 mins. Some guys love girls that are funny and entertaining. I say lets cut the middle man and gimme cash instead as I'm great company! Try it

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    I barely ever get any money just to talk but today when I asked the customer to go to VIP, he said "how about I just give you $100 instead" (he would of only did a half hour anyways) so I said sure. He left about 5 mins later and gave me another $20. It was about 20-25 mins of chat. I would of rather have gone to VIP and asked for a tip on top of the room fee but he didn't want to and the club was dead. Once a guy says no to VIP, I usually take off so I never really get paid to chat since I'm so all about VIP and the guys can tell. I guess if you're a no pressure girl then you may get paid to hang out but I just don't have the patience for that. I don't like not knowing what he's going to hand me. Like someone else said, lots of guys will just hand a $20 if that and that's a waste of time to me.

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    I went ahead and straight up asked the girl yesterday how she does it. She says she doesn't ask them for money to sit and talk, she demands it. So for example, after sitting for a little bit I guess shes like " hey lets keep having a good time, give me $100 so I can stay here and hangout with you." That's awesome if she can get away with that system, but I couldn't imagine it working for me. I find so many of the guys that come in completely uninteresting and they don't know how to hold a conversation. It ends up feeling like I'm conducting an interview.

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    I got paid for talking a lot, but not THAT much. It takes a specific type of customer and you have to REALLY connect with them. It's not like every single dude all night every night.

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    I tell them I can't sit long and not get paid because it doesnt look like Im working, and Mgmt. will be pissed. Most the ones I have made money talking to are over 50, and some tell me that sex now is in their minds, not their bodies.. Other than that, I better be workin it, or no money!

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    Default Re: Making big money by just talking?

    I have encountered guys that don't like to get dances but (considering the vibe is there and both people interested) will pay to sit and chat.

    The most I've gotten was $200 for roughly 15-20 min. but this guy had lots of money and spending it like it was his last day on earth.

    Most guys WILL pay/tip you to chat with them if they aren't getting dances - sometimes they freely offer $$ because they understand your time is money and others you have to remind them/ask for the money.

    To me, relying on this type of hustle is like relying on stage money only - it's too risky

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    To make BIG money just by chatting, I feel like this is sometimes by luck. Not something that occurs very often.

    It's usually guys who don't want to do anything(or be approached by anyone else) but respects your time, chatting and drinking with you at the bar or main floor table while his buddy is lost some where.
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    ^I am one of the older dancers 30-37, who can make money just by asking for it, yet it isnt most of the time. But like an earlier poster said it doesnt happen with many guys. 1..maybe 2...And it has nothing to do with my dancing bc also like another earlier poster said ^ Stage work/pole tricks are hard on the body..hell I find lapdances hard on the body..I offer company and conversation over dancing/lapdancing..Its easier to run my mouth then to wear out my body, lol.

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    P.s. I also dont make "big money'' either. But Im well aware of the reasons why. Im definitely a prude.

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