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    My spouse and I do camming for our main and only source of income. So sometimes we brainstorm about other ways we can use camming to make money passed just the basics.
    We have a lot of friends and customers come to us with interest in camming and loads of questions and whatnot. So we thought maybe we could sell customized camming assistance packages.
    Basically what we'd do is send the model a questionnaire. What does she like? What will she absolutely not do on cam? Any special talents? etc... So we can get a full idea of what we have to work with and what sort of cam model she wants to be.
    Then the package would include a customized schedule (or a few different ones to choose from) (Everything from what hours you work on what days, to a break down of activities and themes and stuff to do during the show), things the model can do outside of camming, what website(s) might be best for her style camming, as well as a basic camming 101 thing. We'll also promote the model on our own show and blogs for a couple weeks.

    Would any of you be interested in this? Do you think other people, especially new or struggling models, would be interested in this? Any ideas for what it could include/comments on what has already been mentioned?
    We don't have a price at all in mind yet, so if it's something you personally would be interested in mentioning what sort of price range you'd pay for it/you think it's worth would be extremely helpful.

    We have one friend we're working on one for free with right now and another possible friend, that way we have a few success stories to show people that it works.

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    how are you planning to differentiate it from all of the free information here, on ACF, on various "pro tip" websites, etc?
    not trying to be a jerk, i swear! just, like....why would someone pay for the stuff that they pretty much figure out on their own within a few weeks of camming ie what they will/wont' do....what site is a good fit.....schedule.....talents/specialties/etc.....themes & activities......

    i don't see why someone would pay for this.
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    I agree with MellyMay 100%. In my opinion, this forum is the only assistance that cam girls need. There are threads on here on just about every camming-related topic there is. All one has to do is use the search function.
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    The stuff I offer in my videos and camgirlhandbook.wordpress.com is booming with people searching for plus not to mention the emails I get and the info is giving out reason why I give out the information freely is that at the end of the day if a cam girl wants to take her business seriously she will all on her own .

    I remember when camgirl101.com tried to sell something it was a total epic fail plus they never delivered on what they were selling i had to dispute the charge. so yea what makes you different then the free stuff out there and why would a potential pay for it when she can find the info free if she just did a few google searches and get connected with the community that is already built.
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    Why? When they can come here & read for free?

    Are you new to camming? Cause any camming vet will know that many girls & customers ask questions & will NEVER cam, they are just curious or tire kickers.

    Then ask yourself why do girls cam? Cause they are broke, so you think they are going to pay you for advice?

    What works for you may not work for another cam model.

    You can not tell from a survey how a girl comes across on camera & how to she will be able to convert free chat into sales or privates.

    Then here comes the questions that usually run people who come here asking such thing off...

    Who are you?
    How do we know you are successful?
    How much money do you make that you would inspire any of us to pony up the money for your advice?

    Why didn't you post links to your camming & website so we can check you out?

    Did you not read the threads on this site? How we all interact, how we all share what works or doesn't work for each of us? Take into account the spirit of this site before posting?

    I too, have taught other models how to cam... that are successful, even more than me sometimes. Never once thought about charging them but to help another girl out. To give back to an industry that has given me much. To take money from girls trying to earn a living just isn't right to me at all.


    Much of this job is trial & error & lessons that have to be learned all on their own.

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    Default Re: Would You Pay For a Camming Assistance Package?

    The thing you have to consider is that there are sites such as this one and my site that are dedicated to providing info for cammers. Someone who has the drive to be successful in this business will do their research and learn all this stuff on their own...

    On the other hand, there are a lot of people who want to be "spoon fed" or they just don't have the time or patience to filter through all the information that's out there. Those people may be willing to pay for a package such as this. If you're marketing to people new to the industry who are in a rush to get off to a good start, they may be in a financial situation where they aren't able to pay.

    I think you'd have to make sure you're offering really good perks. I see that the marketing could be a good bonus. If you run it as sort of a camming mentoring service, it could be tempting to some models.

    The main thing to think about is this: A lot of places offer this stuff (including marketing and mentoring) for free. What sets your service apart from that other stuff?

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    I just recall that every few months, someone suggests that they want to do this kinda thing. Helping people is rad! BUT.... the responses to such threads are typically like this.
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    Default Re: Would You Pay For a Camming Assistance Package?

    I politely disagree.

    Yes you can find tons of info online for free but I do think there are those who will pay for your information, expertise, and guidance.

    You get what you pay for and sometime the free sh*t is old, outdated, incorrect, etc.

    "The game is to be sold not told"

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    It would be refreshing to see someone who wanted to train girls came here & stated. "hi, I'm a top cam girl on Mfc & SM, I make $500,000 or more a year & now I can tell you how to do it too".

    Unless you are super successful & bank, don't bother.

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    You all brought up a lot of really good points.
    We mostly got the idea from talking to our room mate who's thinking about camming. She's very much the type that wants to be spoon fed. She craves a schedule, but isn't good at creating them on her own. She was very excited about the idea. I figure there's probably others like her that want their hands held through the process. Someone to help them schedule things and come up with ideas and don't want to/don't have the time to sift through all the information on the internet. They just want someone to be like "Here's how it is. This is what we think will work best for you. Here's all of the information you'll need at once. Let us know if you have any problems with any of it or questions and we'll let you know right away."

    We definitely don't want to do this as a big source of income. Just to have it available for the type that would be interested to get a little extra money and give camgirls a little extra one on one help.

    I'll take everything you have all said in consideration and discuss it with my spouse. We don't want anyone to be offended by this or feeling like we're trying to sell unwanted help. We haven't worked out all the details as we've only discussed it once or twice. If we only get people interested very rarely to the point that it's not worth it, we'll probably just do it for free or in exchange for promoting our show or something.

    I just definitely wanted to get as much feed back as possible before taking the idea any further than doing it for our friends for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoveve View Post
    This this this
    Those things I didn't think were relevant when just pitching the idea for feedback.
    I should have mentioned that I wanted feedback assuming I could be like, "This is who I am, here is proof that I make X amount of money per night/week, here are customer reviews, here are other people that have used our package and are doing awesome, etc etc.."
    I don't expect people to buy our advice without knowing if it even works for us let alone anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    It would be refreshing to see someone who wanted to train girls came here & stated. "hi, I'm a top cam girl on Mfc & SM, I make $500,000 or more a year & now I can tell you how to do it too".

    Unless you are super successful & bank, don't bother.

    Sam
    This reminded me of that thread in Industry Insight where the lady makes six figures on c4s so she's writing a book about how to get those kind of results... I will sooo buy that book when it comes out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MellyMay View Post
    I just recall that every few months, someone suggests that they want to do this kinda thing. Helping people is rad! BUT.... the responses to such threads are typically like this.
    What happened to Jasmine Jade ebook did anyone buy that she came on here wanting girls to be interviewed, pushed out some ebook and then we never saw her again on the board.

    Yes that chick is my ex and I got beef with her from our past but still I remember how she came on here all high mighty going on about how she is going to make money from some book.
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    For the record, I am an experience cam model and I have had an account on this site previously. I just lurked a lot more than I posted and decided to make a new account when I began feeling like posting more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutiekai View Post
    You all brought up a lot of really good points.
    We mostly got the idea from talking to our room mate who's thinking about camming. She's very much the type that wants to be spoon fed. She craves a schedule, but isn't good at creating them on her own. She was very excited about the idea. I figure there's probably others like her that want their hands held through the process. Someone to help them schedule things and come up with ideas and don't want to/don't have the time to sift through all the information on the internet. They just want someone to be like "Here's how it is. This is what we think will work best for you. Here's all of the information you'll need at once. Let us know if you have any problems with any of it or questions and we'll let you know right away."

    We definitely don't want to do this as a big source of income. Just to have it available for the type that would be interested to get a little extra money and give camgirls a little extra one on one help.

    I'll take everything you have all said in consideration and discuss it with my spouse. We don't want anyone to be offended by this or feeling like we're trying to sell unwanted help. We haven't worked out all the details as we've only discussed it once or twice. If we only get people interested very rarely to the point that it's not worth it, we'll probably just do it for free or in exchange for promoting our show or something.

    I just definitely wanted to get as much feed back as possible before taking the idea any further than doing it for our friends for free.
    Amazingly enough sites like Streamate & naked have referral programs where you get paid to sign up other models. SM gives you 10% of their income for the first 5 weeks they work. So more money they make during that time of you training them the more you will make. Naked used to pay $500 for once they completed 20 hours in private. Most cam sites have something in place like that, to motivate you into getting the new girl to work more & make money.

    As a camming guru you might want to go & read up on what each cam sites programs & rewards for signing up new models.

    Or you can become a virtual studio & be their boss & always make money off of their camming. Warning eventually they will resent you for taking a cut out of their pay forever.

    Never ceases to amaze me how many girls cam but never go read up on all the information cam sites have on this stuff.... When I work for a site I want to KNOW EVERYTHING!

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    it's funny how the model referral program streamate is not publish on streamate anywhere but i hear about it on this board.
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    Hi, I am a successful cam model as well as magazine model as well as porn star. I don't hide, I don't tell people I am successful then tell them I can't reveal my cam girl identity...

    All the mystery makes us ALL Doubt your success in this biz/ Cloak & dagger when wanting to sell us or new cam girls a product doesn't go over well at all.

    As they say "Proof is in the pudding".

    (edit) can vouche for me, as well as (edit) when she first started on Mfc, (edit) consults me about camming.

    Why have an account here then create another one ? That makes absolutely no sense to me, what do you have to hide? If you been on this board for a while & read up then you know I would be asking this stuff. Many of the gals here can tell you that.

    How can we trust a girl who says she is successful at camming but not who she is?

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    It is the first thing I asked about, but then DreamNet Angel signed me up & wanted to make sure she got something for it.

    Model referral programs are how the porn biz is ran. Say I get a model a gig with Score or Bang bros & such, then they pay me a model referral fee. Almost all cam sites have a model referral program except for MFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Hi, I am a successful cam model as well as magazine model as well as porn star. I don't hide, I don't tell people I am successful then tell them I can't reveal my cam girl identity...

    All the mystery makes us ALL Doubt your success in this biz/ Cloak & dagger when wanting to sell us or new cam girls a product doesn't go over well at all.

    As they say "Proof is in the pudding".

    (edit) can vouche for me, as well as (edit) when she first started on Mfc, (edit) consults me about camming.

    Why have an account here then create another one ? That makes absolutely no sense to me, what do you have to hide? If you been on this board for a while & read up then you know I would be asking this stuff. Many of the gals here can tell you that.

    How can we trust a girl who says she is successful at camming but not who she is?

    Sam
    Posting from my previous account would tell you nothing about me except that I've been a member for a couple years and that I asked some newbie questions when I first started.
    I changed my account because the name on the account was my old "stage name" and I hadn't been online in a couple months and forgot my log in. I'm not trying to hide my identity.

    I'm not asking specifically if you all would buy this from ME. I'm not trying to get feedback on buying it from ME. I'm just trying to get feedback on the idea itself.
    I apologize for not clarifying that in the original post.
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    Let's not fault anyone for wanting to help! the intentions are good.........
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    The idea itself is a no sell. No one will buy it unless you are a major brand & successful top cam girl on several sites.

    My advice is to sign models up under the referral programs & help them make you both money while they are just starting out. This way they wont be out any money upfront & the commission will come out of the sites pocket & not the models.

    You might want to get to know the people at the cam sites, the people who run the referral programs & such so that you can truly help a new model out.
    Can you negotiate a contract for them or did you just sign the general cam contract most everyone gets?

    How are you at marketing? Marketing is half the game.
    Top girls on cam sites have more power & work with the sites as business partners. Are you in that kind of position?

    Or work hard yourself to become a top girl on a major cam site & get to be a power player then do it.

    Rule #1 in EVERY business: SALES
    Rule #2 the #1 sales person gets way more perks & away with more shit than everyone else. ")


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    The idea itself is a no sell. No one will buy it unless you are a major brand & successful top cam girl on several sites.

    My advice is to sign models up under the referral programs & help them make you both money while they are just starting out. This way they wont be out any money upfront & the commission will come out of the sites pocket & not the models.

    Sam
    That's a good idea. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you. =)

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    I think there's a lot of money to be made with camgirl supportive services, but you should start with "What do camgirls still need?" rather than "What can I offer camgirls right now?"

    I've been working with a programmer on a secure file transfer app - I've been taking copious notes from the comments on this board and elsewhere on the net regarding what girls like and don't like about their current file transfer systems. If I couldn't offer something new - if nobody was saying "I wish there was a site with this feature..." - the business plan would be weak.

    Look for problems and complaints, and think about ways you could offer a solution. Right now, you're thinking about offering a solution to a problem that's already being adequately solved by this board.






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    ? Do we not remember how ugly she was treated?
    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    What happened to ebook did anyone buy that she came on here wanting girls to be interviewed, pushed out some ebook and then we never saw her again on the board.

    Yes that chick is my ex and I got beef with her from our past but still I remember how she came on here all high mighty going on about how she is going to make money from some book.
    I do not remember her being "high mighty"
    " her experience and advice is definitely valid, but now that this book is out definitely feels like I have competition more then friendship. "
    ^^ your post #34

    critics are always welcome imo

    There is a fine line in a critic and straight up running over ppl w the bus and slamming breaks



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    There used to be a rule on here that we're not allowed to mention other models by name. Has that changed?
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