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    I was trying out a new club recently, and one of the dancers there makes appointments with her customers and then only comes in when she has appointments. I would like to reach this level, to maximize my earnings per hour in the club. Obviously it requires that you dance for a while and have many regulars. Has anyone else tried this?

    I would like to use this strategy especially to weed out/incentivize a certain type of customer that I waste time on. This type will do a VIP room 1/3 days he comes in the club. On the times he does not do the room, he spends nothing. If I scheduled his time with me, he would know I was only there because of him, and that he is expected to spend a certain amount.

    If I could get my regulars to all schedule their time then I could work another shift to develop more appointments. I just hate going in to work, meeting a new customer who spends money but takes me away from my regular who then feels ignored. Conversely, I hate going to work and being bored on a slow day that I could have avoided if my customers scheduled times.

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    Easier said than done!

    Not all customers you try to cultivate into regulars become regulars, and of those, not all are able/willing to schedule appointments and stick to them. Plus, what happens when they cancel, don't show up without a word, are late, or spend less but want more time? Then you're just sitting around and avoiding the customers that are there for nothing. Don't get me wrong -- regulars are great and a good tool to have in your hustle belt (especially on slow shifts), but I don't think it's a great idea to be 100% dependent on them because they will never be 100% reliant.

    Personally, I encourage my regulars to come in when it's slow. If they come, great. If not, I'm not wasting my time hoping they show up on time (if I can even get them to agree to that).

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    I guess it would be harder in some clubs than others. I can pretty much tell you exactly how many people will be in my club at any time of day and three quarters of them will be men I know by name. Most of my regulars are really good at telling me when they can come in. The problem is that they will often all want to come in at the same time (2 or 3pm on Friday) and then I am in a bad spot. I wouldn't be solely depending on regulars, I would just be able to schedule myself better and work the crowd better when I knew my regulars weren't coming in.

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    I do that. When I started at my current club last summer I wasn't making much at all. Today I am bringing in an average of $350 on day shift in a low money city. Many of my co workers are lucky to go home w/ $100 on day shift.

    How do I do it? Text messaging, and xoticspot.com profile with an accurate schedule posted, and always on the lookout for my next regular.

    I use sales techniques like keeping in regular contact with potential regulars. I add notes to my contact list so that I can focus on the customer with specific questions about his hobbies and interests. For instance I have 4 regulars named Dennis. I list their last name on my phone as some kind of identifying character. One of my Dennis' is a dog trainer for the local police department and can see that info. In the notes portion of my phone I include the name of his favorite dogs and will mark on my calendar when we last met.

    I spend about 30 mins per shift just reaching out to my regulars. Some like daily conversations and will come in 1-2 times a month, others will only reply to texts when they plan on coming in. I have another "Dennis" who works as a property manager and comes in to buy dances when he has to evict a tenant (to cheer himself up) so I send him texts about this time every month since that's when eviction notices go out. Once the eviction is complete he comes buy and drowns his sorrows in boobs and beer.

    I learned about something called BroApp just this week and I am considering using it to automate text messages to my regulars. It was designed for flirting with women, but I'm sure it will work fine for flirting with men, too. My current smart phone is on it's last legs (I've had the darn thing for 4 years!) and I'll be getting a new iPhone 5s this weekend. I'll buy the app and post my results once I get a chance to use it for a while. For $2 I can save myself a lot of time texting.

    I have a few regulars who aren't interested in giving me their number, and that's okay too. I just try to plan our next session when I see them, mark that day on my calendar and make sure to be at the club when I say I will.

    Keeping a consistent schedule will go a long way toward maintaining your regulars.

    The downside is that a lot of customers ask me for OTC. Some really want to date and not spend time at the club. I try to assess how strip club savvy they are when we first meet, but sometimes they lie and try to make themselves look like a hobbyist when in reality they only go to strip clubs once every few years. I will try to get the customers looking for OTC back in the club for a while, but don't push it too hard. I just tell them I'm really busy, then send them texts in the middle of the night or the middle of the work day when I know they won't be available. This will generally get them back into the club at least one more time, but not always. If I don't close another sale with a customer in over 2 months, I stop messaging them. My time is valuable, no point in wasting my time w/ a customer who isn't coming back.

    So, yes, you can have good regulars and make more than the other girls in the club, but you have to put extra effort into getting them back in to see you again. Not everyone is going to be interested in hustling via text. Also, regulars can be high maintenance and sometimes a pain to deal with if they are falling in love. Just remain professional and honest to avoid any drama.

    I do not accept expensive gifts. (I've been offered vacations, cars, jewelry etc) I do not meet OTC. I do not give out my real name. And if I should need to cancel an appointment due to a schedule change, I let them know right away.

    That's how I avoid having bad days at work. Also, should I need to find a new club, I can contact all my regulars to let them know where they can come see me in the future. Win/Win/Win!

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    Juggling regulars can be tough because they typically do all want to come in on the same day/time. I know that everybody handles regulars differently, but one thing that I noticed that worked for me was instead of making "appointments" I let them know that I would only be available in a particular time frame that didn't conflict with a previously established time of another regular.
    Regarding the customer that only spends every third time he comes in, I would say stop wasting your time with him if there's other money to be made that day. If he comes in and it becomes clear that he's not gonna be doing VIP that day, I see nothing wrong with saying hi or having a quick drink with him if it's slow, but there's no shame in saying "Hey babe, I'd love to hang out with you all afternoon, but I've got to make a couple rounds and I'll check back with you in a little bit." That should get the point across that your time is money. He probably doesn't mean to waste your time, but he is, and it's costing you money.
    If you want to cultivate more regulars, my best advice would be to work a consistent schedule, and also have some sort of OTC contact. I personally use a Google Voice number for texting, and for me it has worked like a charm. Customers usually will text me saying they are gonna come see me that day or whatever and I can also let them know if I need to take the day off and won't be there. Then, when it's slow, I can text a couple regulars something like, "Hey babe, I'm working till 10 today, come have a drink with me! xoxo" Or something stupid like that lol
    Good luck with everything!

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    I do this. However, it requires that you have predictable regulars so that you know almost exactly how much $$ they're going to spend when they get there, and how high the chance is that they will show up when they say they will. For guys like the one who only spends $$ 1/3 times that he's there, I'd make sure to schedule him on a day when you have another guy coming in who you know for sure is going to spend. That way, no real loss to you if he doesn't want to go VIP - you didn't come in for him anyway.

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    I don't schedule regular just because I hate having a work schedule. But I DO know the days and times my regulars typically come to the club and when they ask me if I'm working, I conveniently say date and time that I am free AND links with their usual day/time so we are there at the same time.

    Juggling regulars takes a bit of finesse and attention to detail. If you're up for that then I'd say try it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina6 View Post
    I was trying out a new club recently, and one of the dancers there makes appointments with her customers and then only comes in when she has appointments. I would like to reach this level, to maximize my earnings per hour in the club. Obviously it requires that you dance for a while and have many regulars. Has anyone else tried this?

    I would like to use this strategy especially to weed out/incentivize a certain type of customer that I waste time on. This type will do a VIP room 1/3 days he comes in the club. On the times he does not do the room, he spends nothing. If I scheduled his time with me, he would know I was only there because of him, and that he is expected to spend a certain amount.

    If I could get my regulars to all schedule their time then I could work another shift to develop more appointments. I just hate going in to work, meeting a new customer who spends money but takes me away from my regular who then feels ignored. Conversely, I hate going to work and being bored on a slow day that I could have avoided if my customers scheduled times.
    I worked with a lot of girls like this at my old club, but they had been dancing for like 8+ years. They only came in to see their customers, and I feel like a cunt saying this cause I never actually witnessed anything, but from what I heard from other girls/staff/their customers they were extras girls, so of course a customer isn't gonna miss that appointment. They also were dealing with regulars they had had for years and years and they often saw them outside. I think it takes a long time to get to that level and I personally wouldn't want to have to deal with the hassle. I mean, you don't have to hustle customers everyday, but maintaining a customer like that is another separate level of hell especially when you add in the extras!

    Granted, I'm not arguing that you have to be an extras girl to live off of regulars, but I think maintaining customers like that is just as much work as hustling everyday. I used to know a girl who made all her money off of one guy but she ended up dumping him because she said it wasn't worth the hassle-- he would call her all the time, ask her invasive questions about what she was doing, expect her to drop everything for him, go out to dinner, tell him everything she did/where she went, etc (I used to dance for him as well and he was way too controlling for me!). Finding a group of regs you can depend on soley for your income that are going to be reliable and not expect a lot of extra attention is difficult. And, like Shanna said, the last thing you want to do is drop something important to go into work for a reg just to find out he doesn't come in or wait around for hours for a reg who doesn't come in. Even the girls I mentioned above had them happen to them countless times when I worked with them... I remember cause they were NOT happy on those nights!
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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    Finding a group of regs you can depend on soley for your income that are going to be reliable and not expect a lot of extra attention is difficult. And, like Shanna said, the last thing you want to do is drop something important to go into work for a reg just to find out he doesn't come in or wait around for hours for a reg who doesn't come in.
    This is easily avoided if a dancer also has a goal of seeking her next regular every shift. It doesn't mean that she will meet a new regular, but she will still be hustling the floor instead of just waiting around for 1-2 guys. I've never lost a regular because I was already dancing for someone when they come in.

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    Default Re: Scheduling customers

    I only work 2 days a week max and consistently work the same shift. This way I maximize my profits. I wouldn't call it scheduling but I do tell all my potential clients that I ONLY work does certain days so if they want to see me they'll come then.

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