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    Dizzy Does anyone else have a 'Sweet Spot' When it comes to Your Rates? or is it just me?

    I'm a bit confused on the whole, rate chart. (sm) in particular.
    I seem to make the most money when my rates are at an exact place, versus, even lowering, or raising them a few cents. Forget about even a dollar, they just don't buy it. (Unless I'm on in the middle of the night), then I can charge whatever I want, and they pay.
    I have read the raise Your rates challenge on here, but, I seem to have a 'magical' number, and can't get past it.
    The down side is that my pay always stays the same. Does that make sense to anyone, or am I doing something that is way off?
    I even tried lowering my rate to 1.99, just to see, and nobody but the same old screen names from 3 years ago comes in, and still nobody will go prvt.
    Your imput is greatly appreciated.
    I know that regs would be used to my normal rates, but I'm talking about new people who come in to chat.

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    I have moved mine around a bit in the past couple years here and there and not really noticed a huge difference privates. I would say, if you are comfortable with your current rate and it's working for you, why change it?! If you can get privates with a higher rate late at night or on weekends when it's busy-change it for that time frame you are on.



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    ^^ Thanks. I can't always cam in the middle of the night, due to having other daytime obligations.
    I'm working on it though, so I can only cam 1-2 hr per night and make double what my weekly pay is now. And not have to deal with sitting in free chat for long periods of time like I do in the daytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    ^^ Thanks. I can't always cam in the middle of the night, due to having other daytime obligations.
    I'm working on it though, so I can only cam 1-2 hr per night and make double what my weekly pay is now. And not have to deal with sitting in free chat for long periods of time like I do in the daytime.
    What about weekends? I can usually raise my rates for the weekend (if I remember) and do really well.



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    Default Re: Does anyone else have a 'Sweet Spot' When it comes to Your Rates? or is it just m

    As high as you can set them while still making your goals. You might be surprised at how high that number is, I was!

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    I definitely see that I have a sweet spot with my rates. It's taken me awhile to figure out the highest I can charge without it being dead, so now I have found my normal sweet spot and my "I want to be super busy" sweet spot.
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    Sweetspot all the way. My morale blows when I put myself on sale. To be honest, I am terrified of lowering my rates. I think about it all the time but Gold Shows are really the only thing I'll ever do low and $3 is that number. The one $1 gold show I did got one pledge out of the $200. This is where my countdown phobia started. Frankly, I would rather having something think "bitch, $3 is too much" than "omg, look at this fucking hump who can't even sell poontang for $1 - sucks to be you"
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    I lowered my private chat back to $3.99 (my starting rate a year and a half ago) and now when I actually log in, I'm not sitting bored for several hours. I've decided to just take toys out of private chat and put them in exclusive only ($5.99) so that I don't get too burnt out. That's my happy place. I wish they could be higher but I was so tired of sitting in free chat for hours without a show.
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    Can we use "cramming" as the official new word for when you procrastinate too long and try to cram a whole pay period's worth of work into the last couple days?
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    Like, I'm happy having my sexy pr0n everywhere, but I don't really want a bunch of clips of me popping balloons in diapers all over the place XD

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    ^^ Exactly, my point, about the sitting in free chat. I'm able to raise my rates past 10 dollars per minute, but I would have to do a lot of 'work' to get someone to go from chat to prvt.
    I Hate being chatty on cam in free, and when I do, It always f..k's up, because nobody goes prvt., and guys will just take up time talking about bs, and then leave, and I get so exhausted with all that talking.
    I would love to make more money, though, as we all would.
    Weekends are hit or miss for me, and I certainly am on then.
    Thanks everyone!
    Regarding the gs, I also have a sweet spot, in that 2-3 gold gets lots of pledges, yet 7-10 gold for longer shows just gets a few.(It always equals the same cut for me, regardless on what I'm charging).

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    If your rates are too high you end up doing a lot more short privates overall. Sure, you can be lucky and find big spenders who don't care, but steady money means catering to the majority, not the lucky few big spenders. In the long run longer privates are much easier than lots of short ones.

    Of course there is a sweet spot, but that depends a lot on what site you're on. I rotate and split with around 8 sites currently, with different rates on each. The rate also depends on my percentage earn. For example, on SM I can't go lower than $2.50 because I'm only getting 30%, so my hands are tied. It's either $2.50 or nothing at all because I wouldn't put it lower. Other sites I'm getting 50%, so I can charge $1.50 and get the same profit and privates are longer on average.

    I've been doing this full time for over 8 years, so I have a pretty good idea how things work. You have to consider the average charges of other girls of your calibre too because if you're higher you're going to find the going tough.

    Most customers have a choice of a lot of girls on many sites, so they're looking for bargains. Better a steady income at lower rates than relying on lucky nights at higher rates. I've always had a goal of $200 minimum for a night's earn and I've only failed to reach that goal a few times in over 8 years.

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    ^Thank You Tropo! That's kinda what I figured would happen if I raised my rates over 10 dollars. At my 'sweet spot' rate, guys stay longer, and I usually am in back-to-back prvts/exclusives, which, ironically doesn't burn me out, and actually keeps me energized. My income stays the same, which I don't understand why.
    I also reverse my rates and make exclusive (on SM) less because I do mostly fetish, so it cuts down on the 30 second peepers.
    I realize that some guys can't go exclusive yet, and that's why I throw in a few gs during my shift, so they can have a chance to see my body, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    Regarding the gs, I also have a sweet spot, in that 2-3 gold gets lots of pledges, yet 7-10 gold for longer shows just gets a few.(It always equals the same cut for me, regardless on what I'm charging).
    This could present a bit of a conundrum, because if you intend to do private sessions along with your gold shows, the very cheap buy in could influence the number of privates you'll get later on as so many customers have seen you for cheap and won't want to pay for a real private. I have to consider this because I do some gold shows, but mostly I do privates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    ^Thank You Tropo! That's kinda what I figured would happen if I raised my rates over 10 dollars. At my 'sweet spot' rate, guys stay longer, and I usually am in back-to-back prvts/exclusives, which, ironically doesn't burn me out, and actually keeps me energized. My income stays the same, which I don't understand why.
    I also reverse my rates and make exclusive (on SM) less because I do mostly fetish, so it cuts down on the 30 second peepers.
    I realize that some guys can't go exclusive yet, and that's why I throw in a few gs during my shift, so they can have a chance to see my body, etc.
    I'm just a boring model who doesn't do any special performances. I do the opposite. On SM I need the popins to increase my hourly earn, so I make the exclusive much more expensive otherwise I'm losing money if someone takes me exclusive.

    There's 2 types of customers, the private guys and the voyeurs. Once a voyeur always a voyeur. I don't believe voyeurs will ever be interested in privates in general. Sure, sometimes you'll have a fan who will pop in to see what you're doing before he takes you private later on.

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    ^^ I see Your point. I am usually above 60% paid chat, so I'm not concerned with my room clearing, because my guys always pop back into chat once I return.
    The gs guys are most always the same ones, who are just gs guys. I've never been able to convert them, because they even tell me that they only buy gold shows.
    I do get new guys who take me prvt. right after my gs, because I am just showing my body in my gs, nothing else. Unless I have a huge tipper request something, I never do anything else for that low of a price..
    The cuties from my gs that I convert, are just so horny, and want to see me do bj, or penetration, and they are the ones who go prvt.

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    That's what has been frustrating me the MOST the whole 11 yrs going on 12.. NO MATTER WTF I do .. I always makes the same amount of money!.. uggggh.. i guess it's better than being sporadic.. at least I can count on it .. i have an 11 yr track record..lol... on SM for example.. I lowered down to 3.99 per min from 4.99 and no one went to pvt more.. and it landed me on the 3rd page by the end of the week.. same amount of shows , less money... so now .. I am at 5.99/6.99 and today is my first day and so far so good.. had a few shows ..lol..in exclusive.

    BTW--- I have charged $1.99 all the way to 5.99.. i have seen no difference in income on sm.. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    I'm a bit confused on the whole, rate chart. (sm) in particular.
    I seem to make the most money when my rates are at an exact place, versus, even lowering, or raising them a few cents. Forget about even a dollar, they just don't buy it. (Unless I'm on in the middle of the night), then I can charge whatever I want, and they pay.
    I have read the raise Your rates challenge on here, but, I seem to have a 'magical' number, and can't get past it.
    The down side is that my pay always stays the same. Does that make sense to anyone, or am I doing something that is way off?
    I even tried lowering my rate to 1.99, just to see, and nobody but the same old screen names from 3 years ago comes in, and still nobody will go prvt.
    Your imput is greatly appreciated.
    I know that regs would be used to my normal rates, but I'm talking about new people who come in to chat.

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    ^^ I wouldn't mind if my income was something I could live off of. Sadly, it's not. I haven't been able to save any money, and always live paycheck to pay check. My vanilla job is just part time, and I only got it for the health insurance, but now with Obama Care, I'm quitting that job.
    It just seems counterproductive to work a job for years that pays the same. Especially camming, where I always thought it would increase.
    Oh, well, guess I was wrong on that one!

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    ^^ I'm brand new to gold shows as I just got approved, and I'm also new on SM. The strange thing is that they keep harping on about using the HD encoder to get Gold Show approval, but they approved me using the normal browser interface. I hate that encoder and it's too much effort to use that when I'm splitting with other sites. Maybe one day they'll get with the times and develop their own stand-alone encoder which is easy to use, as we have to use on other sites. AW in particular has a very nice one.

    I haven't had much luck with Gold Shows so far and I don't have the patience for them. It was just a theory that if I do cheap buy-ins I may lose out on privates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    ^^ I wouldn't mind if my income was something I could live off of. Sadly, it's not. I haven't been able to save any money, and always live paycheck to pay check. My vanilla job is just part time, and I only got it for the health insurance, but now with Obama Care, I'm quitting that job.
    It just seems counterproductive to work a job for years that pays the same. Especially camming, where I always thought it would increase.
    Oh, well, guess I was wrong on that one!
    It's getting tougher every year. I used to get by on one site and made the money easier. Now I have to split among many. Also, what I was making 8 years ago is a lot more than what I make now considering inflation and exchange rates, as I'm not a US resident and the USD has lost a lot of value over the time I've been at it. Also, there's a lot more cheap models around now, reducing the rates year by year.

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    Not to mention it's kinda hard to even find sites anymore to work on.. they have all merged with SM or another site...lol... there was a time when i was on 16 cam sites at the same time.. i can't even find that many!..lol

    Quote Originally Posted by tropo View Post
    It's getting tougher every year. I used to get by on one site and made the money easier. Now I have to split among many. Also, what I was making 8 years ago is a lot more than what I make now considering inflation and exchange rates, as I'm not a US resident and the USD has lost a lot of value over the time I've been at it. Also, there's a lot more cheap models around now, reducing the rates year by year.

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    ^^ I have zero tolerance with gold shows, especially the countdowns. Probably because I have been doing them since they first came out, and I know what kind of horrible guys they attract. (Just speaking in my own experience).
    All that teasing, and reading the freeloaders text barking orders, pisses me off! Plus, it's a breeding ground for screen names I've never seen before come in and insult. They're most likely other models or studios just trying to 'fake me out'.
    It never fails, (it's been discussed on here), that as soon as You start a gs countdown, guys will ask for a prvt.
    I want to say, "Yeah buddy, where have You been in the past hour as I have been sitting in free chat?" Just ignore those guys. I only cancel when certain regs pop in and ask me to go prvt.
    I make most of my gs money in $7-$10 buy-in 'voyeur' shows, which last anywhere from 15 minutes to a half hour. (I only go into 'voyeur' mode, when I can't stand to be in free anymore. I figure, if you come in and out of my room tons of times, I will get your money, one way or another. I like the fact that I can just ignore them when in voyeur, and still get their $$$. All they get is a 'pussy shot'. I don't even read what they write, as I'm usually watching t.v., or reading.

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    ^^ Could you please explain what "voyeur" mode and shows are in SM. I don't know anything about them and haven't seen anything about them in the instruction manual. How do you start them?

    Also, do you know anything about the TV broadcasting invitations? I've been invited to participate.

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    My sweet spot is to charge the most I can get away with. I don't mind short privates as I usually tend to get a mixture of short and long. As long as the money is piling up is all that matters to me no matter how I get it. I was busier at $5.99/7.99 but I also had a lot of peepers in private and noticed that I had a lot of 1-5 min privates even then. I don't want to really reach every single guy out there, I'd prefer my target market instead which are men who can drop an average of $7-10 per min.




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    That's what has been frustrating me the MOST the whole 11 yrs going on 12.. NO MATTER WTF I do .. I always makes the same amount of money!.. uggggh.. i guess it's better than being sporadic.. at least I can count on it .. i have an 11 yr track record..lol... on SM for example.. I lowered down to 3.99 per min from 4.99 and no one went to pvt more.. and it landed me on the 3rd page by the end of the week.. same amount of shows , less money... so now .. I am at 5.99/6.99 and today is my first day and so far so good.. had a few shows ..lol..in exclusive.

    BTW--- I have charged $1.99 all the way to 5.99.. i have seen no difference in income on sm.. lol
    Someone who had been in the business for many, many years told me it doesn't matter how much I charge...and he was right, I make the same amount whatever...I prefer to be busy and I'm not online for very long so I keep my charges competitive.
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    That's good! I would do the same .. but now I am older, few extra pounds , get tired and cranky.. I am not who I used to be.. I used to do back to back shows for over 6 hours straight at a lower rate.. but I made the same amount of money if not less... I mean I charged whatever would give me $1 per min or more most of the time.(MY CUT).. Maybe that's why I got burnt out??..lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    Someone who had been in the business for many, many years told me it doesn't matter how much I charge...and he was right, I make the same amount whatever...I prefer to be busy and I'm not online for very long so I keep my charges competitive.

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    When you change your rates try changing your display picture along with it. If you have been on SM for a while chances are a lot of guys have already popped into your room and looked at your rates. Changing your display picture gives that 'new girl' vibe all over again.


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