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    Default Re: transitioning to air dancing... what the hell do I do?

    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k
    no offense to the British dancers on this site but the pole work I saw tonight was pretty lame!!
    Lol yeah it's true. But I find even the dancers who just walk round the pole and pose are secretly super pole dancers that don't see the point in putting on a good show when:
    A) Theres usually no stage tipping
    B) It doesn't seem to make a difference to selling dances

    I used to give it my all on stage and then noticed girls who stood humping the pole for the length of a song were selling more dances so that went out the window fast.

    Anyway that's kinda off topic so back to the original question.
    It sounds like you have to be the biggest tease ever on the podium. Does the burlesque look suit you? Like long satin gloves to sexily peel off and take up some time.
    I used to stretch out VIP dances with the 10 minute bra take off,no joke. I would tease the fuck out of guys with that one. Like showing the front, jiggling a bit, slipping one strap off, then the other, sexy dancing to the side, sexy dancing to the other side, turn around and unfasten but not turn around just yet until you've given them a wicked sexy look over your shoulder, then the big reveal!! All done sloooowly.

    As for what to talk about in sit downs, if you can handle the "shoulder to cry on" hustle you can get a guy to talk about his problems for HOURS. I can't explain how I managed to wangle out what the problem was, sort of "you don't seem your best today honey, everything OK?" and the floodgates would open. I'd sit back, drink champagne,nod and look concerned.

    I know you are an experienced dancer so I'm sure you are just a bit fazed because it is so different from what you are used to, and you will soon own that club.

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    Default Re: transitioning to air dancing... what the hell do I do?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnyxFierce View Post
    I can honestly say that I personally love clubs with contact. Because it give you a realistic sense of connection with men. I feel the whole "no contact" or "Air Dance" rule is very unrealistic for paying customers. No matter what, dancing is one of the most amazing careers. Because we get to be our true sensual hot selves. We dancers have enough people in our lives barking and breathing down our necks judging us. Why the hell would we want that in a club? and then have to turn around and tip that club out. I say go with your core dancer rules. If you know in your core that you'd make more money in a contact club, then do just that. Go for a club with contact.
    Well it depends on the kind of contact though! I do prefer contact dances because it's easier to sell them in multiples, tips are better, and I actually feel LESS vulnerable during them emotionally (there's something about the eye contact with air dances that makes me feel very exposed/vulnerable) but I don't miss the heavy contact dances I had to do in LA at all. I felt so physically exposed/vulnerable there and like I had to block everything out because it was all becoming too much for me towards the end... having guys trying to finger me and swipping my pussy all the time, I do not miss that! And I love that I can say to a customer who asks me for extras "I don't do that and nobody here will do it either" and know that it's actually true-- in LA I might have said that to a customer but I would have known he could find ten girls in the club that would do whatever he wanted. But I would prefer to do light contact dances where I can at least stoke the customers hair, blow on their neck, grab their thigh, let him play with my hair, grab my hips, etc. I feel like even just little things like that would help me extend the dance and I don't mind doing stuff like that with customers at all. Right now I feel like I'm just putting on a stage show.

    But there's nowhere in London where you can do contact dances. I think it's against the law in the city? Cause everywhere is super strict... the only clubs I've heard of contact dances are like extras-filled brothels. So I'm stuck with the no contact for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by pinkpvc View Post
    Lol yeah it's true. But I find even the dancers who just walk round the pole and pose are secretly super pole dancers that don't see the point in putting on a good show when:
    A) Theres usually no stage tipping
    B) It doesn't seem to make a difference to selling dances

    I used to give it my all on stage and then noticed girls who stood humping the pole for the length of a song were selling more dances so that went out the window fast.

    Anyway that's kinda off topic so back to the original question.
    It sounds like you have to be the biggest tease ever on the podium. Does the burlesque look suit you? Like long satin gloves to sexily peel off and take up some time.
    I used to stretch out VIP dances with the 10 minute bra take off,no joke. I would tease the fuck out of guys with that one. Like showing the front, jiggling a bit, slipping one strap off, then the other, sexy dancing to the side, sexy dancing to the other side, turn around and unfasten but not turn around just yet until you've given them a wicked sexy look over your shoulder, then the big reveal!! All done sloooowly.

    As for what to talk about in sit downs, if you can handle the "shoulder to cry on" hustle you can get a guy to talk about his problems for HOURS. I can't explain how I managed to wangle out what the problem was, sort of "you don't seem your best today honey, everything OK?" and the floodgates would open. I'd sit back, drink champagne,nod and look concerned.

    I know you are an experienced dancer so I'm sure you are just a bit fazed because it is so different from what you are used to, and you will soon own that club.
    I'm always gonna do pole tricks no matter what it's just my thing and guys like it! They're always like "oh you're so American British girls don't do pole tricks" lol it sort of adds to my American image because for some reason all the Brits here seem to think America is pure stage dancing which is total BS but whatever.

    The thing that's difficult about talking during dances is that a) the music is loud b) the customer is far away and c) they have an accent that I sometimes have to listen to very carefully to understand, so it's hard to comprehend what they say unless you get down on your knees and stop dancing and lean forward. You can sit with the customer but you have to get up and get dressed, it's so awkward. So I feel like I have to stop dancing to begin a convo with them and then I worry that they're going to get annoyed. And I really just don't know what to say to them! I'm better at talking in VIP, where I can use stuff like the cry-on-your-shoulder hustle.

    I like the idea of extending it more, I think I need to work on that. The whole no-floor-work thing was ridiculous at Metropolis though, I hope the next place I try out lets me do floor work cause it's a lot easier to do a dance when you can get on the floor (and it's a nice little break from your feet).

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    Default Re: transitioning to air dancing... what the hell do I do?

    Wow, well your attitude is that of a woman that knows what shes doing. You sound like your a pretty good hustler overall. I'd say take your time in this. club. Try and sell the Girlfriend Experience in the club, Try to make the stage show seem more like a hot date. Try dirty talk while your on stage, if that's allowed. Also, play with your legs. Do a lot of floor work. Men love that. Try and wear garter belts and extra luscious lingerie. That way you can eye sexed them like the Victoria Secret models. Guys lose their minds over those girls and they know they'll never get to touch them. Work the face and body on stage, and sell the " I love you company" act. You will bank! Hugs.

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