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    Default Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    And she has the state we live in blocked so I can't check her myself!

    Her profile is profiles.myfreecams.com/jazzy_jay and she's on between 7pm-9pm EST. She can't seem to get people to come in or stay. I thought maybe the webcam is lagging a bit or the sound is bad, but I can't see it on my computer because of the state block. Can you watch her and let me know what she's doing wrong? She can't figure out why she isn't making good money

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    Default Re: Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    Well most say myfreecams is a hard site to work on for a first time site.
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    Default Re: Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    Right now it shows her status as "Online - Webcam Off" which means MFC is seeing her as being online, but her webcam is off so people can't get to her room. This is going to make her cam score drop, because she is online but not making any money. Remind her that if she is going to be away, to log off completely.
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    Default Re: Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    MFC is a really hard site for first timers. I would not recommend it to anyone unless you already have a big understanding of how MFC works, have a plan (and 2 backup plans!) for what your going to do while your on.

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    Default Re: Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    MFC can be great for newcomers.....i respectfully disagree with that general idea re: MFC is bad bad bad on this forum, but....yeah, the whole being logged on while NOT on cam is a major score ruiner...

    Def gotta max out the "new model" status while the time lasts.....if she still has it?

    She'll need guidance regarding what to look out for from those who visit New Models..... examples being not getting $ upfront if going offsite -ie Skype- for a show, the fake "i sent you an Amazon GC/something from your list" messages she'll get, the predatory types who take advantage and push boundaries, the "i'm here to help you..." dudes who PM incessantly regarding what [in his opinion] is a "better tactic" or try to weasel their way in early "as a friend" but don't tip, and the dudes who give 22 tkns and expect EVERYTHING because in their heads, it's like "...hey, this new girl won't even know what the tip amt means, she'll be happy to get anything!"

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    it will take time on her own to figure out her token prices that work or not, her comfort level, who to not waste time on, and just get into a groove with her schedule and her personal shows......
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    Default Re: Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    Some have the ability to make money right off the bat & how to hustle.
    Some have to learn it.
    Some will never get it no matter how many times you explain it.

    There is no way to determine how a person will do even if you are friends with them.

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    Default Re: Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    ^^ nailed it

    I signed my sexy sister up, she is fuckn hot as hell, no personality. She is better is a law firm. Sexy and a undercover freak.

    Camming did not work out she only gave it a week. Shes fuckn hot as hell.. personality , they ate her up and tore her down.

    I wish she would give it longer or watch me or someone bc watching me is eww thats my sister type deal.
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    She does have personality , not for this business. In a club whore from roof to the floor. On cam, she was not the same. (vanilla nightclubs)
    Drinking brings out her wild but she shouldnt need a drink to cam.

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    MFC is a hard site to hustle. Tell her to give SM a try. Camming isn't for everyone and that's okay!
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    Default Re: Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    I also agree MFC is hard to hustle. Honestly many models that do well get some sort of help. It could be just one member that tips well signalling to all other members that she's worth the money. I have seen this over and over again as the MFC way of camming. Men that tip big do so mostly because other men tip big. When a member says " camscore doesn't matter" he's full of shit and you need to make sure that you watch any amount of time that you spend with him in $$$ per min. Why? Because the guy that says camscore doesn't matter will help in making sure your camscore doesn't move up. He needs you to either rely on him being the top tipper, the only tipper which will eventually mean he will feel entitled to more time because he "helped you". Or maybe even entitled to personal details that will never be his business. Men that also go to new model rooms well "most" are looking to run scams , use trickery , bullying tactics and the like. I used to go to new model rooms and tip models to ban these broke assholes because not only were they talking the model to death but they were pushing her way way down below her score.

    When I started I would chat with only the tipping member once he stopped tipping and left I got the fuck off the site. The rest of those men were all saying "aww don't leave" but they don't give a flying fuck about what you're trying to do there. The lower your camscore is the less amount of members that will find you and the more freeloaders you'll get trying to talk to you. Reason is that in top score rooms they don't have a voice. The top models don't spend alot of time engaging the broke members and their rooms move so fast that broke guy's text goes up in a blur.

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    Default Re: Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    Just to add something that I noticed in my first week of camming there. Many cheap members will try and initiate group. Now will this be a real group? Nope . It will start out with 3 members or so and then the real broke asshole will try to out talk everyone and beg for you to look at his cam. What happens when everyone is trying to mentally forget that there are men in there is that they'll eventually leave and it will be just you and this cheap guy. Like doing $0.50 privates? Neither do I but this is the goal for that one annoying member. Close that group once it gets down to 2 people immediately and then go back to free chat.

    Personally I think I've only done 4-5 group show on MFC in the 4 years (on and off) since I've been there. It's only cost effective when you have an incredible number of people or someone is marketing your group in the lounge. If you get a decent number people in group say 10-15 and they at least stay for 10 mins, you'll easily rack up $100-$150. Probably is that most that go into group will pop in and out. You'll look at transactions and see 30 different names all with 7 tokens, 3 tokens 5 tokens because MFC bills by the second not the minute. Now all of this adds up but don't ever let one member take over a group show. Sometimes you'll receive additional tips in group shows which is very nice I remember one group I received an additional 3K in tokens from a few members which really made group all the much worth it. It surely beat waiting for a tip down of a free chat tease show where 90% are not tipping but just watching.

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    I just looked at that model's camscore and she's at 582. The members in her room obviously murdered her camscore. Also some "cam pimps" tip their models offline and only let them log in for maybe 20-30 mins at a time when they first start on MFC. This makes sure that by the time they log in to do a show they have a cam score of 2400-3600 to start. It's easier starting at that score then the basic 1000 on day one. I've looked over alot of camscore stats from many models and most I would say didn't just hit the lucky pot and go up.Many got a very nice cushiony head start that other models don't get. I remember reading forums where models got pissed off that someone that never actually signed in was in the #1 spot on MFC with a camscore of I think 24,000+ that was back in 2011. The highest camscore right now is some model that has 163,000+ score which is something I've never even seen before. There are also models that are very well known to be MFC escorts. Yes they meet customers off the site for $$$ and I'm not talking the 50 token per tip raffle either.

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    MFC was my first site and I think I did pretty well, which is why I told her to sign up. I really like it compared to other sites (plus my computer is a 2009 thing so it's hard to get it compatible on other sites...).

    I *really* think it might be her webcam. Anyway, she's signing on soon. So if you want, check her out and post if her webcam/volume/etc. works... profiles.myfreecams.com/jazzy_jay
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    MFC was my first site and I think I did pretty well, which is why I told her to sign up. I really like it compared to other sites (plus my computer is a 2009 thing so it's hard to get it compatible on other sites...).

    I *really* think it might be her webcam. Anyway, she's signing on soon. So if you want, check her out and post if her webcam/volume/etc. works... profiles.myfreecams.com/jazzy_jay
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    I just looked, her profile says, "Online, camera off".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiiannon View Post
    MFC was my first site and I think I did pretty well, which is why I told her to sign up. I really like it compared to other sites (plus my computer is a 2009 thing so it's hard to get it compatible on other sites...).

    I *really* think it might be her webcam. Anyway, she's signing on soon. So if you want, check her out and post if her webcam/volume/etc. works... profiles.myfreecams.com/jazzy_jay
    Well if you feel that her webcam / volume etc may be an issue isn't that what YOU should do to help her as your friend? Or was this post about promoting to bring her traffic?

    Right now I'm sitting in a model's room she had a good camscore in the 2500-4000 range and she has about 260 people in her room. In the 30 mins I've been there she has one really loud member trying to direct everything and being quite demeaning in the way he's talking to her. She fully nude, toys at the ready and has a beautiful face and body. No one is really tipping. If they are it's for videos but they are still demanding more of her in free chat. She's moved all around , changed positions trying to find out what will make these men get off of money but instead there is one annoying guy that is talking in her room like he's in his own private with her. Obviously he's trying to act like the big man on campus.

    Ohh I even went into the lounge and this is first time I've seen over 900 members in there at one time. Typically it's 150 tops. They are spending their time talking about engine failure and plane dynamics. I'm thinking wtf is this? Plus the already obvious Bromance that goes on in there.

    I was in another model's room today and she had about 300 people yet kept getting 10 tokens from the same person every 15 mins. Another member tipped her 20 tokens.

    Bottom line on MFC at the close of the billing period many of the members that know the billing period cuts off on the 15th tend to make the models jump through ridiculous hoops for pennies on the dollar.

    I earn the most on MFC between the 1st-13th or 16th-27th. After that the site fills up because everyone is trying to get those last dollars and typically it's really only a few bucks, members tend to behave like kids in a candy store so they spend less but demand more during this time.

    Even many of the top models logged in half naked today when typically they do their bra off, panties off or even shirt off count down.

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    Default Re: Friend new at camming, can't figure out where she's going wrong

    A smile and patients can go A LONGGGGGGG way... Do not expect to get tips within 5 minutes of being online while staring at the cam, looking all pissy...
    I am very very sorry if this came out rude, but... It is what it is... MFC may not be a place for her...

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    Yes! This happened to me on my very first day in the first 5 minutes I was on. I immediately got a group of 4 guys, they stayed for a little while. Then there was 1 guy left and he was waiting for the other guys to clear out. We did a session for about 30 minutes after that. Two days later he came on and wanted me to do group again, I told him that I didn't want to do group again and he left. It's been about 8 weeks since I was on MFC last (I'm on SM not) and I actually did a 30 minute Skype session with this same guy for a $100 amazon gift card... so it wasn't completely not worth it. But I'm sure in most cases these guys are preying on the new girls for the cheap 10 tokens a minute private. You friend is at around a 800 cam score right now. I would advise her to try out another cam site. If she's really set on MFC have her delete her account and reapply so she can get the "new girl" status again. Make sure she does a lot of research and comes back prepared (That's what I'm doing!). I have about a 1400 camscore and I tried out MFC a couple days ago and only made about 30 tokens in an hour. I'm going to try again in a few months though. I do love MFC.
    Quote Originally Posted by cherryblossomsinspring View Post
    Just to add something that I noticed in my first week of camming there. Many cheap members will try and initiate group. Now will this be a real group? Nope . It will start out with 3 members or so and then the real broke asshole will try to out talk everyone and beg for you to look at his cam. What happens when everyone is trying to mentally forget that there are men in there is that they'll eventually leave and it will be just you and this cheap guy. Like doing $0.50 privates? Neither do I but this is the goal for that one annoying member. Close that group once it gets down to 2 people immediately and then go back to free chat.

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    What kind of computer/webcam does she use? If you cam too, you should know whether it's a good webcam or not.

    MFC was my first site and I did really well, and am still doing really well 6 months later so it definitely depends on the person.
    Maybe she's one of the girls who sit there and do nothing/doesn't talk.
    Or maybe she doesn't have a topic countdown. If you're new and don't have any content to sell, nor do you have a topic countdown, I doubt she's getting tips.
    Maybe she's not that personable?
    Maybe she hasn't done her research.

    I would recommend that you redirect her to the MFC thread on here and have her read through at least the first post.
    Secondly, she should definitely start a twitter. That's where most of my new regulars come from, they find me on twitter first.

    Having a shitty camera might be part of the problem but it's definitely not all of the problem because when I first started, I had a shitty camera for the first month before one of my regs bought me the logitech. I still made bank. If they like what they see/the personality, they'll stay and tip.

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    She didn't believe me about the camera, but I finally convinced her to buy a camera from Walmart and said she can just return it after a week if she can't make money. So she listened, bought the webcam, and made $75 in a few hours yesterday. so I think we fixed the problem. I watched her on cam (I was in the room, a bit awkward lol) and she has a good personality while on it so it was definitely the cam. I'm so proud! Haha. Thanks for the help. I remember getting so many groups in the beginning and feeling honored but now I realize it sucks!
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