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    idk if this should go in body business or whether its just a miscellaneous question and should go in here but..
    im always getting told that i look "wholesome" and "innocent" and "cute" and while its great in real life, im getting kind of sick of it at the club where im trying to look sexy dammit!! i've had guys say that they almost didn't get dances with me because i looked like i'd be boring back there, and that i didn't have that sexual look about me. i'd like to keep the young looking part of my look, but i'd like to look a bit more tarted up in there instead of a lost girl scout selling cookies. i don't wanna be that girl they wanna talk to and "take out". i wanna be the fun,hot, trashy little thing they can't wait to get a champagne room with. my body type is very much more cute than hot, and nothing i can do about that but..any other tips? i just wanna look more sexy and slutty than sweet
    EDIT: i feel like i've totally posted this before, but i couldn't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    im always getting told that i look "wholesome" and "innocent" and "cute" and while its great in real life, im getting kind of sick of it at the club where im trying to look sexy dammit!! i've had guys say that they almost didn't get dances with me because i looked like i'd be boring back there, and that i didn't have that sexual look about me.
    Jesus H Christ, what a rude thing to say!

    Personally I like the 'Girl Next Door getting Naughty' look a great deal, & it sounds like you are sporting that look whether or not you intend to--but there's all kinds of things different guys like I guess.

    I would avoid at all costs any pastel colors. Pink is right out. Wear black, preferably leather. One of those chokers with brass studs ought to stifle the 'innocent look' immediately.
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    I get this every. Fucking. Day.

    I don't wear colors anymore, I just wear strappy black bondage looking things. Tons and tons of very dark eye makeup around my entire eye and gigantic eyelashes. Guess what? It doesn't work. I still get "You look so sweet" "you look so innocent." It's the face. You probably have big eyes and that's what they're making their assumptions off of. My eyes are not only big but also slope down at the outer corners a bit so I also get "You're so soulful" and "You're trying to cover it up by LOOKING like you're having fun, but I can tell how you really feel" and then they give me a small, knowing, condescending smile and get confused when I roll my eyes.

    But maybe also the hair? When I imagine the quintessential "hot, fun, trashy little thing" I see a girl with pink lip gloss, dark eye makeup, and straight blonde hair with dark roots. When I imagine an innocent girl I think of natural light brown hair.

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    Maybe you just need to not worry about what a few assholes say? You know how the guys will get in the clubs sometimes. Though they may be very far from perfection, sometimes they feel entitled to nitpick every aspect of the dancers' appearance, clothes, speech, etc.

    It would annoy the hell out me too, if every night a few of the girls out of 40 or so started nitpicking every little thing I did as a DJ. Come to think of ithat has happened in more than one club...
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    Maybe you just need to not worry about what a few assholes say? You know how the guys will get in the clubs sometimes. Though they may be very far from perfection themselves, sometimes they feel entitled to nitpick every aspect of the dancers' appearance, clothes, speech, etc.

    It would annoy the hell out me too, if every night a few of the girls out of 40 or so started nitpicking every little fucking thing I did as a DJ. Come to think of it, that has happened to me in more than one club...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    Maybe you just need to not worry about what a few assholes say? You know how the guys will get in the clubs sometimes. Though they may be very far from perfection themselves, sometimes they feel entitled to nitpick every aspect of the dancers' appearance, clothes, speech, etc.
    I don't think she cares that they insult her. She thinks looking innocent could affect whether customers are gonna spend money on her. And there is something to that. Guys go to strip clubs because they want to see smoldering sexy strippers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starlily View Post
    You probably have big eyes and that's what they're making their assumptions off of.
    This is it. I have big eyes too and got those comments all the time. I actually made it a point to close my eyelids a little more as if I'm on drugs. That worked for me, I still got those "sweet and innocent" comments sometimes but less often.

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    @Simone87

    I'd go with making young and innocent part of your costume. Go extreme with the schoolgirl type theme, obviously be making yourself look younger so that the stuff that is making you young naturally just becomes part of the shtick rather than part of you. And of course you have to act against type, so you don't feel young to the customer. I think the best way to do that would be a middle aged woman's perfume, because they wouldn't be consciously aware of why they thought you were older dressing young. Dirty talk or crotch graps would also work if it fits you and the club.

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    Crotch grabs??

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    yeahh i probably won't do crotch grabs lol, i couldn't bring myself to do that ..i'm so shy that i have to gather up all my courage and just go for it when just approaching guys. i also have light brown hair and freckles, and i didn't get guys saying that too much when i had light blond hair and dark roots so you are probably right about that starlily!

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    ^^
    So maybe hide or play down the freckles, some clip in blonde highlights.
    Try to minimize your eyes. I'm not sure how but thinner lashes thinner eyeliner. Highlighting your lips might be the way to go. Some "gutter trash red" wet look gloss might make the guys mind go do the right place, and I mean the lipstick you see in the store and think, "only the trashiest girls would consider it red". that shade.
    Getting guys attention on your boobs might help as well. a demi push bra with some eye catching dangly necklace calling attention to the cleavage the necklace is pointing at. Doing some cleavage make up might help too.

    Too me wet look lingerie especially black or red looks sexy, trashy, and a little Domme-ish. So some shiny/glossy clothes might help you out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyaaa View Post
    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightwish View Post
    @Simone87

    crotch graps would also work if it fits you and the club.
    Sm girls actually have enough brains & class to make good $$ w/o having to resort to this, & Simone is one of them.

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    The crotch grab seldom works if it's the first or second move made - unless you want up try and upsell extras (and I know that is not the case here). It's right up there with "wanna dance". I am pretty sure it was said in jest, but since it's being replied to seriously...

    From your description I think it's the freckles/brown hair. Turn that hair red or blonde and downplay the freckles and I bet you see a change.
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    It sounds like they are testing to see if you do extras and/or can be manipulated into doing extras. Perhaps a line like "Looks can be deciving" will help to close some of these guys. Others are probably just too passive aggressive to say no thanks.

    I'm opposed to dancers changing their looks too drastically to fit the needs of the customers. Of course your should try to be your most sultry, sexy self. But trying to become something your not is going to hurt your money.

    I remember all the customers who told me how they would never buy another dance from me if I got a boob job. Hahahahahaha! When I returned to work with brand new DD's they lined up to check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    Sm girls actually have enough brains & class to make good $$ w/o having to resort to this, & Simone is one of them.
    Crotch grabs really only work on drunk college guys anyway. Men with the real money would be turned off by that behavior.

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    I have been called trashy looking before by another dancer, but I take it as a compliment cuz it was at a club that I was a top earner at. I have straight blonde hair w dark roots, wear a ton of black eyeshadow, black fishnet bodysuits. I literally enjoy the trash culture. lol So I dance to old school kid rock sometimes, ( fuck you blind, paid, so Hott, etc. ) the irony is that Im a nerd in real life so the identity change is a trip. I also dance to a lot of NIN, Combichrist, ( Give head if you got it) or Puscifer. So I have a real trashy/ heavy rock n roll vibe. I find it hard to put my persona to work for me in Dallas but generally its a hit overall in the midwest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocanucks View Post
    The crotch grab seldom works if it's the first or second move made - unless you want up try and upsell extras (and I know that is not the case here). It's right up there with "wanna dance". I am pretty sure it was said in jest, but since it's being replied to seriously...
    I meant it seriously. I have no idea what Simone looks like. But if she is getting the "you are too innocent" problem she needs to break out and break out hard. She needs to get the guy to treat her like a stripper and not like one of his friend's kids. This thread is about how to stop being adorable while moving a guy towards the back. Grabbing his dick forces the interaction immediately to be stripper / customer. She has his attention and he's thinking of her as a stripper. From there she sells whatever.

    I've certainly had women in clubs whom for whatever reason I won't think of / treat like a stripper. Most of the time they had to engage with me physically or talk really dirty to get me to start thinking of them as strippers and be willing to buy dances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    Sm girls actually have enough brains & class to make good $$ w/o having to resort to this, & Simone is one of them.
    d'aww thank you my dear!
    yeah crotch grabs ...resounding NO, i want to look slutty not act slutty..not comfortable with assaulting stranger's crotches on the floor.
    thank you all for the suggestions, im gunna try it out this week at the club and see how it goes

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    ^^ Best of luck babe.
    One thing to consider is saying something outright nasty, slutty, and commanding to the guy when you first make eye contact, in your head. Think some outrageous shit while looking at him. Maybe the naughty thoughts will translate themselves on your face.

    Like they say in customer service training no matter what smile while you're talking to your customer on the phone and it will come through over the phone in your voice.

    If you don't want to appear like a good girl, don't think like one. Might work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyaaa View Post
    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    crotch grabs = NO. unless you plan to move on to the next town asap, dont do this. Its a sure road to a beat down by the regular dancers and not a good idea.
    Moving on. I cant believe this was even suggested. Most places this is an obvius extra. Knightwish, I think you need to be in a different forum..
    What the op is looking for is hair/makeup tips/ maybe pick up lines or dance moves. I think you went to far on this one.


    ps. Yes dirty talk is not bad if thats your thing,. but dont grab crotches. yuck.

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    Dramatic black eyeliner. Dark red lips. Makeup can help you look sexy vs. cute. Think Catwoman makeup vs. California beach girl makeup .

    Black liquid eyeliner with sharp extended edges, smoky eye shadows , fake lashes , and lined lips can crush off some cuteness IMO.

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    One of those choker things (necklace) on a sweet looking girl makes them look really slutty, in the good way. Maybe that is my own thing I dunno.

    I agree on bright colorful clothing being the wrong choice for the look you want. Black, or any dark jewel colors (red, green, blue etc) that look good with your skin color isn't what I would call "slutty" but it will lessen the girly look.

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    Simone, from your previous posts, it seems to me that you are comfortable handling the men who want women to look like children. Why not stick with the look that fits you until you age out of it?

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    ^ idk i guess im just really bored with it, and not seeing any increase in my money over the past year, like i've hit an earning ceiling or something. and im just sick of young girl next door being the only look i can pull off i guess, i wouldn't say that i like the guys or im comfortable with them, just more comfortable with the look and i wanna try and see if i can attract some different customers !

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    ^^
    Playing dress up is one of the most fun parts of the job.

    No matter what any of us suggest. Just have fun with whatever your wearing. Confidence is the single biggest money maker!
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyaaa View Post
    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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