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    Default Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    Alright, Can we be honest if even brutally?

    Ive been camming and stripping for years, before i was even legal too.
    Being on both sides of the spectrum, i see Camming and Stripping in very different lights.
    Ive spoken with several dancers whom look down upon "camming" because they see it
    as a lazy form of dancing, and HATE when cammers call themselves virtual strippers.

    Ive also met dancers who down on cammers because of them dildoing themselves... (These are usually at low contact clubs).

    Ive ALSO met the occasional dancer who looks up to cammers.
    Beings the "camming connection" basically dominates stripper web now, I thought i would take a poll.


    Please be honest, I felt like being a full time cammer, and a full time dancer i need to know how my peers in the club perceive me.


    Camgirl Only's, Please dont vote, lets get a fair reading, We already out number them.
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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    Honestly it doesn't make a difference to me. I will say though that camming seems to have more variations of what is considered hot versus clubs. I've seen a lot of camgirls who would never get hired at most clubs. Whether that's good or bad I suppose is a matter or opinion.

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    Exactly!
    The reason i bring it up, is i worked double shift the other night, fought off the DRUNKEST man ive ever seen, and got home to tweets
    of a top earning cam girl earning double what i had earned.
    Although I put just as much time into camming as i do dancing, I was very honestly annoyed.
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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    As a dancer I feel pretty neutral about camming. We're both in the same industry and I think we both deal with our fair share of societal scrutiny as it is -- no need to add more to the plate. I honestly would cam myself if I could for some additional income but I live at home and I'm super paranoid about having my online presence found out.
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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    no, i would never look down on them for camming..nothing annoys me more than girls in the sex industry looking down on other girls in the sex industry. burlesque dancers looking down on strippers, strippers/camgirls looking down on porn stars or escorts, or club strippers looking down on private party strippers. i know that its somewhat human nature to try and look down on somebody else and to want to feel superior and enlightened but that nasty trait really needs to go. like jadey said, we should be supporting one another.
    i do think that camming and stripping are totally different, and camming is not for me at this point, but i wouldn't feel that they are in any way inferior in their choice of sex work.
    some strippers may look down on cam girls for dildoing themselves and i've heard some cam girls looking down on strippers because we make physical contact with men. the whole thing is ridiculous


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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    no, i would never look down on them for camming..nothing annoys me more than girls in the sex industry looking down on other girls in the sex industry.
    Yep, this irritates the shit out of me. It's a big part of the reason why the general public looks down on sex workers too. If we can't even treat each other like human beings, why should anyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffyFlame View Post
    Please be honest, I felt like being a full time cammer, and a full time dancer i need to know how my peers in the club perceive me.
    Why would you even tell other strippers that you cam? None of their business IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Why would you even tell other strippers that you cam? None of their business IMO.
    I agree with that. There's a lot of judgment between sex workers of different "ranks" for lack of a better term. I've seen dancers do some nasty shit to other girls just because they found out that girl also escorts or makes porn. It's stupid, disgusting and pathetic but it happens. Better to just keep your life private to avoid that nonsense.

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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    I've done both as well, and they both have their pros and cons. I never did particularly well with camming, because I feel like it takes more motivation to work from home than get yourself to the club where it's not like you have anything better to do but make the best of your shift. I also appreciate the privacy of dancing more. But I did like the working from home, more creativity, and ability to ban people in camming. I feel like it's just personal preference for which things are more important to you, and which things are more comfortable to your personality.

    For me, escorting is more comfortable to me than either one, but I can totally see why dancers and cammers wouldn't want to venture into it. It's like the business world - some people love being the creators, some like marketing, others are great at talking to people and doing pitches, others like to run the day-to-day decisions of the operation.... They're all in the business world, but everyone has different strengths and things they enjoy or don't enjoy as much. It's silly to look down on different people doing different jobs that appeal to their personal sensibilities better when we're all technically in the same industry, just providing different types of service.
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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    I have no opinion on camming. Shit I wish I could cam since it's the perfect job for me (internet addicted homebody), but can't due to the paper trail and don't want to risk getting found out by someone at my day job.

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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    I split the month with camming and dancing.

    Whenever im asked about camming im 100% open with it..

    I danced at a bigger club in my area, where all the girls where seasoned, and when asked about my "other job"
    I got a read from on of the top earners.

    Her name was Belle, and i remember that because that was the first time i had ever been deeply hurt by a girl in the industry lol.

    She gave me a read about how cam girls are "Off-brand porn-stars / dancers" who could'nt get hired at any real club, even though
    we where both sharing the same stage that very night. -_-

    I honestly use to say i cammed with pride to my peers at the club!
    But now, after several back handed questions and eye rolling most of the time i just say im into internet marketing! lol
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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    I don't really know much about caming, so I don't have a huge opinion. One girl who works at my old club (and kills it there) started caming because of her bf and she said she found it to be a lot harder than stripping, because at least at work she could walk away from an asshole but when in the chat rooms she was stuck with them (or something, I didn't really understand).

    Personally it wouldn't work for me, I like being around people at work and not just looking at them on a screen, but if it works for you it works for you.

    And Buffyflame... just do what you want to do, who cares what people think!

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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    I'm a dancer only-
    My husband and I have talked about, I feel as if cam girls are safer. You can block guy and not just walk away but still have to see them. You expose yourself the same as dancers, in different ways. As a dancer customers can follow you home, as a camgirl customers can find your IP. Camgirls don't have the worry of guys trying to finger them but they have the risk of guys recording and their family (if hiding) finding out. Dancers also have the risk of family (if hiding) finding out but we fight off guys all night without the security of blocking. My personal opinion is camgirls are so much safer. If your'e able to be open enough go for it. My husband and I have talked about me camming but I'm way to nervous/scared. Plus I know dancing.
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    Hopefully it's okay for me to answer as a former career stripper, current cam girl. When I danced I was approached about camming in a physical studio. Went there, it was odd to say the least, a house with several bedrooms set up with the cams and keyboards. The payout structure was complicated (of course at the time I was used to "insert $$ into my hand" so anything was more complicated than that) and there were specific shifts one had to work. It wasn't compelling enough for me to return.

    If I were dancing now, things would be different. The pure joy of not having annoying men's hands on me, ever, while working is difficult to overemphasize. Add to that club politics, enemy dancers, the music and smoke, and there is simply no comparison. Strippers are brave as fuck to take that all on and deserve to bank at work.

    To backtrack and answer: at the time I was a stripper, I didn't have an opinion on cam girls. If I'd met one while working in clubs, I'm sure I would have been intrigued and give it a shot myself.

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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    To quote Aurora14 from an ancient thread: "Do not engage in shit talking about other models. Again, think of these lovely ladies as your co-workers and co-conspirators. Partners in crime! A regular ol' Bonnie, Bonnie, Bonnie, Bonnie and ...more Bonnies! Fuck Clydes!"

    I think that also applies more broadly to everyone who does sex work. I think some girls naively believe that society will give them a pass because "I might do x, but I would never do y," but that's just not how it works. We might as well stick together and support one another, because all of us (strippers, nude models, camgirls, pornstars, sugar babies, escorts, etc.) look pretty much the same to most of civilian society.

    If someone asks me why I'm not a stripper/escort/etc., I can give them an honest explanation that's all about MY boundaries and *not* about shaming other sex workers.






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    Despite I made more escorting and stripping, camming provided me with ok income during my pregnancy. I stopped around the beginning of the 3rd trimester due to problems with my sciatic nerve. I resume camming after recovery from pregnancy, but only briefly: I stopped caming altogether about a year ago because too many people recognized me afterwards (after putting geo restrictions).

    This being said, I have tons of respect for cam girls. I knew a few double or triple dippers (like myself) while dancing: never cared about them advertising their other services, especially to their regulars.





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    Find your niche, be happy it and the fuck with what others think.

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    Do you consider waiting tables sex work? Looks and flirting factor into tips, tipping, tip share and pay are closer to a dancers' pay model than a vanilla job, and although not every waitress will become an escort, waiting is the easiest way to to get started (especially now that 'brestraunts' - Hooters Twin Peaks, etc are booming and making the line between waiting and stripping grayer). It's like the shallow end of the great sex work pool. Do any escorts jump straight into escorting? Or do they ease into waiting, stripping, private parties, escorting.

    Camming seems to be a whole other thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday View Post
    Do any escorts jump straight into escorting? Or do they ease into waiting, stripping, private parties, escorting.
    Thanks for asking about this. This is exactly how I got into escorting: doing private parties in an area with stage only go-go/strip clubs. I started marketing myself as a no sex escort after leaving one of those pesky private party agencies because it was an easier way to get customers. Plus, "private party entertainer" sounds too long and formal, and escorting can also be in a non sexual context.





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    Default Re: Dancers opinion on CAMMING

    I have a lot of respect for cammers because y'all have the patience that I lack. One of my buds cams and she has the patience of Mother Teresa. Me, I'm like "Fuck you give me money now!"

    I used to work in a peep show doing masturbation shows so I can't look down on anyone for toy shows. I don't cam because of my odd hours and lack of patience. Plus big tits are a dime a dozen in Camland. In PA being skinny with big tits and all my teeth is enough.
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    "The pure joy of nothaving annoying men's hands on me, ever, while working is difficult to overemphasize. Add to that club politics, enemy dancers, the music and smoke, and there is simply no comparison. Strippers are brave as fuck to take that all on and deserve to bank at work.slow-clap.gif

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    I tried camming for a few weeks. I made ok money, but found it boring as hell. I'm amazed at how patient cam girls are with all the sitting around and text/chat. I guess I just really appreciate the face to face interaction with the customers.

    Camming did teach me some hustling techniques that I use with text messaging now. It's how I bring in customers on a slow shift. I recommend that any dancer who is trying to improve her pool of regulars to use camming as a training tool. Sexy text chat is definitely a skill that is valuable as a stripper.

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