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    Hi. I'm a performer on Streamate and have a question. I'm having some issues with my paying regulars being bounced out of my chat and bounced directly into another performers chat room. This has happened both in free chat and during paid chat/gold shows. The other thing I am being told is I am not easy to find on the site even though they have me bookmarked to favorites. One of my regulars went as far as to unfavorite me to do a search and he was not able to locate my cam anywhere on the site. When I e-mail Streamate I get nothing but canned response. Yesterday and today I had very few people in my chat room and this is upsetting because as everyone else does, I too have bills to pay. It irks me that placement is based partially on ratios because in a situation like this I feel I must be some kind of a super hero to make $100 as an invisible performer!!

    I use the encoder with recommended settings. I use the Logitech cam Streamate recommended. My upload is 11.75 mbps. Ping is 13, and download is 58 mbps. I also am using the preferred lighting.

    The only thing I can think of is maybe someone at Streamate doesn't like me for whatever reason and has made the decision I can use their site to stream and they can have their hands in whatever revenue I generate, otherwise I'm on my own. Does anyone have a link or a better contact than smsupport? This is just shameful.

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    I have a lot of the same issues. I actually emailed support about the redirects and got the standard "the customer has to report it, we can't help you". Maybe if enough people complain about it though...

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    We can't do anything about your traffic. This is entirely out of our hands as support.


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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    Did you tell them that neither you nor your regulars can find you on the site when specifically looking for you? That's not a traffic thing, that's a placement thing. Being bounced out of your room is super annoying too, especially in paid/gold shows.

    I can understand that response if you're just complaining to support about having low traffic, but it's super weird that they would respond that way if you tell them that you can't find yourself on the site at all, and that multiple people are getting kicked out of paid.

    One question: do you have geoblocking enabled?

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    Wait, so your guys are being kicked out of your room and land in some other model's room without clicking on her? That's bizzare.

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    You have to be detailed and clear when writing support.

    send in a screenshot of your upload/downoad
    You must answer if you use the encoder or not
    You must answer if your hardwired
    GIVE THEM ALL THIS INFORMATION , it is one less step for the tech team to ask you

    Give them details
    I send the customers name in.
    I ask the customer to send me a message
    I screen shot that and send it in.

    I have somewhat learned to trouble shoot with my customers alone, sometimes its simply the customer.

    I had one customer say to me "I have a top of the line macbook" Im thinking his computer is newer.
    Top of the line in camgirl language is the newest that came out. Intel processor, quad core, 16 ram etc.
    NOPE he uses a basic macbook from 2008. 4 gigs ram on a dual processor.
    He was being kicked bc he was viewing other cams, downloading porn/movies and his processor cant handle it.
    Now that we figured out his issue of his top of the line macbook, he was butt hurt to hear me say, You need to upgrade or just do one thing at a time.

    They say mac can last forever, they surely can. Just bc they can last doesnt mean technology improves OVER 5 years or more

    4 gigs ram on a dual processor. <-- from experience my computer could not handle SM

    I dont think its personal with streamate. There are 1000s of models online all the time, very rare do I see under 1000 models online. They dont get personal.

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    usually when this happens they are trying to watch two models at the same time but if it happens with every customer, yes weird
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    Wait, so your guys are being kicked out of your room and land in some other model's room without clicking on her? That's bizzare.

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    ^^^ We never know what members do on their side, yes, tempting is soo right, they dont know the bizz like we do, it's difficult to tell when things happen why they happen. Of course u cant find urself if u have geoblock on but it also happens u cant find urself if u DONT have geoblock on, depends how u look after urself.
    I can say this: if i look after myself on cam site lists on SM thru the pages it could happen that i miss myself on the list cause i either fell on page two after i knew i was on page one or i dont see myself on page two cause i just went back on page one depending on the models dynamics on site (placement fluctuates a few spots when models are taken pvt/ excl. or come back in freechat or sign in/ off site).
    It happened that i could not find myself at all on site while looking thru pages and then all of a sudden i am there after more page refreshes or to want to enter my own room and it was showing like i was in pvt which was not true so i assume somehow my room is 'blocked, stuck', i cant know for sure what is but it's glitchy, i believe in good/ bad server theory, always did.
    I then check my cammodels link and am able to see myself on cam while from sm main site directly was not possible, it looked like i was in pvt.
    Weird, same with the members, we never know why they are booted, why they cant find us or if they lie about not being able to find us, i believe many do so, they prefer to say 'oh, did not find u for ages, i was looking for u', yeah right, of course u say this, i dont expect u to say 'yeah, i visited somebody else inbetween' or whatever the truth is, they often play games & many of them are not PC/ internet savvy to understand how things work when watching cam girls, especially in HD.

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    I was typing while ABigNerd posted, i agree with u too sweetie, it's the bloody internet and support that are not knowledgeable regarding these tech. issues.

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    Thanks for your responses. I sent a screen shot of the encoder with the settings visible and also my speed test results. My concerns are not a direct traffic issue but it does translate that way. Depending on the time of day and who is on, my chat room usually has a moderate amount of traffic, maybe 200 to 300 visitors for every 10 to 20 minutes but within the last two to three days it's been down to 5 to 10 visitors every 10 to 20 minutes. Some of the guys will say hello and leave before I am able to answer but the majority only sit there silently. It's just a very bizarre change. I've also seen an increase of model to model harassment which makes me think the issue is not limited to only myself. We all know how restless and dramatic things get when there is a major slow down. Something is not right.

    It also seems like SM has had a change in employees recently which is why I asked if anyone knows if there is a new link or contact person. I'm considering closing my account and starting over fresh but would rather exhaust every other option before resorting to something so drastic.

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airrrie View Post
    Hi. I'm a performer on Streamate and have a question. I'm having some issues with my paying regulars being bounced out of my chat and bounced directly into another performers chat room. This has happened both in free chat and during paid chat/gold shows. The other thing I am being told is I am not easy to find on the site even though they have me bookmarked to favorites. One of my regulars went as far as to unfavorite me to do a search and he was not able to locate my cam anywhere on the site. When I e-mail Streamate I get nothing but canned response. Yesterday and today I had very few people in my chat room and this is upsetting because as everyone else does, I too have bills to pay. It irks me that placement is based partially on ratios because in a situation like this I feel I must be some kind of a super hero to make $100 as an invisible performer!!

    I use the encoder with recommended settings. I use the Logitech cam Streamate recommended. My upload is 11.75 mbps. Ping is 13, and download is 58 mbps. I also am using the preferred lighting.

    The only thing I can think of is maybe someone at Streamate doesn't like me for whatever reason and has made the decision I can use their site to stream and they can have their hands in whatever revenue I generate, otherwise I'm on my own. Does anyone have a link or a better contact than smsupport? This is just shameful.
    I could have written what you did word for word. I emailed Vanessa and so far no response. I emailed support finally yesterday and just mentioned to them that I cannot find myself on the site. Could they please look into it. I CAN make GREAT $$$ but I feel as if I'm being tampered with. After reading Amanda36C's blog I have little hope they will remedy this situation. It's not my computer, internet, nothing on my end. I am 100% positive this is internal. On their end. I am so pissed because like you I have bills to pay and I KNOW I can make the $$$$.
    If they don't want us making them $$$$ the least they can do is tell us. I have a feeling someone is jealous that my hustle is very lame and I still made bank. Basically I DON'T DO SHIT FOR FREE. I feel like if I'm making you the $$$$ why do you care what I'm not doing?! Why don't you give a shit about the ladies doing taboo or giving stuff away for free. That's what's killing your site. But my guess is just like any job you get haters. Haters that can and do fuck with your income because they know someone and are allowed to. And just like any job there's a replacement right behind you.

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    For instance I used to have a member come into my room and one day out of the blue he/she says I'd be pissed. I mean random out of nowhere. So I didn't ask wtf. I just thought about it. It finally dawned on me that I had asked for a shitty rating to be removed and they denied me that time. So how would joe blow customer know about that? I have had other things happen to that I will not put out here on SW.
    Tempting says it's not personal. Hell, I don't believe I'm hot enough for some other person to care to screw with me. But people are weird. And I take it personal when it's my $$$$ being affected.
    It just doesn't make sense that they wouldn't want every model possible to be making as much as she can. But that's in a perfect world. I wish I had what it took to build a site.

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    Indeed a true theory ladies, sometimes they just re-direct traffic to specific rooms, they always do this, they send traffic to people that know are working long shifts, are willing to do a lot in their shows, people with higher earning potential, they wont send me all that traffic when in my profile page says how vanilla i am lol or they see how many hrs i work or that i dont flash for free, etc. I do my thing, i do my niche shows but i am not the type who attracts the crowds, my audience is specific so it's not profitable for them to send me good traffic. Also i rely only on site traffic but this is my personal decision not to promote myself. I have the same problems lately myself but i know i cant do anything about it, when it's working it's working, when not...

    MARE, they dont have the tech. resources to put everyone on site on the golden server love, i know they 'filter' models & yes, it's personal also, i know amanda36c had some fight with somebody and she was taken from page one to page 3, i saw that myself on SM, they wanted to make her leave, i dont discuss her business nor her motives or SM point of view, is not outing either cause her blog is public, i read it myself time to time & i know she found out things, i know people hate & if they have the power to put others down they will, i know i have my haters, they troll my room often, maybe some of them have the power to mess up with my $$$, i dont wanna sound paranoid but i know things happen 'behind the scene', things we dont know.
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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    I'd have to agree with you on this. I'm not saying OP doesn't have the right to be paranoid but I just don't understand how it would benefit SM and their models by doing something so shady!
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    I dont think its personal with streamate. There are 1000s of models online all the time, very rare do I see under 1000 models online. They dont get personal.
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    I may have figured out why it's happening and the more I think about it, I believe it goes back to opting in or out of TV. I recently disabled the option to the point where I have a huge red warning on my log in page. I now realize that big red band across my log on page is the red band of death. What Streamate is doing is personal.. Very personal.. I feel it's unfair of Streamate to broadcast our private chats to subscribers but not pay us a percentage of the revenue they are generating from those chats. If you've ever noticed names popping in and out of your exclusive chat, or more appropriately, an unknown name you never saw log on but magically shows up as logging off, this is the reason it's happening. Previously I was opted in for TV under the belief it pertained only to gold shows. So now it's a catch 22. Give away my exclusive and premium chats without reimbursement to the TV subscribers or suffer the consequences, that being, having your traffic bounced and your cam stream hidden from view on the website. This is very much personal in my opinion.

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    Oh yesss, i am opted OUT of TV GS! HA! So what is best to do, opt in? What if i never do party chat/ gold shows? what gives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceFun View Post
    Oh yesss, i am opted OUT of TV GS! HA! So what is best to do, opt in? What if i never do party chat/ gold shows? what gives?
    Just to clarify. If you aren't seeing this image across your log on page, your private shows are being broadcast on TV.

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    They only broadcast The Gold shows on tv, not the privates, this option is for the Gold shows ONLY, if u click on the blue link & read everything that says in there u'll understand what is all about. You need to broadcast in Party chat using specific encoder and session settings and then u are prone to get TV GOLD SHOW offers.

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    From what I understand there are monthly membership levels. One of those levels provides full access. It's not limited to gold shows. It includes gold shows, private shows, videos and photos. Please real the channel website.

    The model opt in only pertains to gold shows. We are not paid when members access our private shows, videos or photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceFun View Post

    MARE, they dont have the tech. resources to put everyone on site on the golden server love, i know they 'filter' models & yes, it's personal also, i know amanda36c had some fight with somebody and she was taken from page one to page 3, i saw that myself on SM, they wanted to make her leave, i dont discuss her business nor her motives or SM point of view, is not outing either cause her blog is public, i read it myself time to time & i know she found out things, i know people hate & if they have the power to put others down they will, i know i have my haters, they troll my room often, maybe some of them have the power to mess up with my $$$, i dont wanna sound paranoid but i know things happen 'behind the scene', things we dont know.
    I don't expect to be "put on the golden server". I just know that a.) My city and state are not blocked and I cannot see myself on site. b.) Traffic is being redirected c.) I was making 500-1,000 a week when I wasn't being screwed with. So I don't need a golden server. I just need to be able to work as I was.

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    And no it's not outting. Someone else just posted a link to Amanda's blog in another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    He was being kicked bc he was viewing other cams, downloading porn/movies and his processor cant handle it.
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    Well, i used to make a lot more myself, i try to find explanations why for some of us traffic changed drastically in worse & members are leaving our rooms after typing Hello, i am in the same boat. But it makes sense technically that having soo many new models working on site now who also offer gold shows (a lot of bandwidth is used when 200 guys connect to a single room for example) the site maybe cant support with great traffic the amount of rooms open at a given time, some people are just left behind. Maybe they work on site, dont want to spend to upgrade, have tech. issues, marketing strategies, they promote certain rooms, they decide who gets the traffic & who sits in a dead room, is like this everywhere. It could also work automatically, only somebody working for the site could tell & they never tell lol. I think SM model base grew up a lot lately & too fast before SM got prepared to support the flow of new streams. This is my logic & point of view, i speculate.

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    Yes AliceFun! This does make sense too. I have looked at the streamate thread going way back and every few pages it is girls saying it's not working. But then there are a few stepping up and saying it's rigged from the inside. And it would make sense that their studios get traffic sent to them since SM makes more$$ off of studio ladies.
    I just need to come here and vent sometimes. It's not like they have model support that cares. It's sad. I feel there's enough $$$ out there for everyone. But some people are greedy. I have never been that way. I like to be fair. If guys are coming to a models room it's bc they want to see her. I have sooooo many guys come in and start chatting with me and poof they disappear as if they aren't allowed to.

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    Default Re: STreamate: Redirects and missed or no indexing.

    I was on another thread about a week ago and a girl who used to work for a studio (and her studio manager told her this) that yes they do take customers out of your room and will redirect them to other models rooms. She said it happens to her when she uses her customer account too.

    I'm also having problems finding myself. It seems like the only people who pop into my room these days are regulars. I took geo blocking off and couldn't find myself in the first 20 pages on either SM or cammodels. I'm using the encoder now with the recommended settings and my internet speed is 105 mb. I'm using a USB wireless adapter for my laptop and I'm going to try to get a Ethernet cord this week so I can hard wire my connection. I'm getting 72 mb consistently with my wireless adapter though. It's so frustrating! When I first started using the encoder I had over 20 people in my room, then I started having issues with it freezing up. So I contacted support, they never replied to me but now my freezing issues are magically fixed... except now I'm only getting 2-3 people in my room at a time and they are all regulars.

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