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    Default Idk what I've been doing wrong all this time..

    Sorry for a rant/emotional post but i just don't know any more. I've been dancing for almost 3 years and i've never had that like *amazing* night. I've never broken 1k. When I'm really excited and think I had a good night...it's always everyone else's average night. I'll even be sitting with the same group of guys and see them just handing money to my friends and I get a fraction of what they get.

    I'm all happy and smiley when I'm at work, I'm not sulking around.

    I got to work really late tonight because my key got stuck in the front door of my SO's building and I had to wait for him to get home then decided to just make dinner cuz I was hungry/in a bad mood. Almost didn't go in and I'm glad I did but...I worked 3 hours and made $110 after tipout and I know most of the other girls made way more than that in the time I was there. I'm just not exciting or something. I hate to be a downer but it really sucks to stop and think that I've never had that miracle night/customer.

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    Default Re: Idk what I've been doing wrong all this time..

    It took me about 2 or so years to break 1k, and it's just not possible (or at least requires the stars to perfectly align) in some clubs, so don't beat yourself up over this random goal.

    Without knowing what you do when you're actually at the club, it sounds like your attitude may be seeping in to your interactions with customers, despite you not blatantly sulking around. Like, if you're often a bit down on yourself, don't consider yourself exciting/good company, go into work in a bad mood, and don't work for a particularly long time (during night shift especially, the big money is often made in the last hour or two the club is open, but even when I work during the day, sometimes I make nothing in the first 2-3 hours and it all comes at the end), all of those things are setting you up for failure because you're not going to give off positive energy.

    Are you at all able to take a break from dancing? Sometimes getting away from it for a few days or even a couple of weeks can make a huge different to my attitude when I get down on myself. If that's not feasible, can you try out a different club? The change of scenery is also really nice sometimes. Heck, buy yourself a totally different outfit even and switch up your look if anything.

    Otherwise… Think about what you've done differently on the days when you've been excited and had a good night, and think about what you do on a regular basis. Compare, contrast, and figure out which things you can change on a regular basis to try and encourage more good nights more constantly. And of course, read through Hustle Hut for great tips and advice! I made a note on my phone with my favourite tips (and a great mantra someone shared on here that really gets me in the positive, money-making mood) and advice, and often read through it before starting my shift or at some point during it when things aren't going my way.

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    Girl 100 is still good. people have different standards but where I am from it got so bad in clubs that 60 dollars was pulling teeth to get 100 a day and 200 or 300 woahhh lol. Be happy you get that and I am sure it's not you it could be that those guys are friends with the girls or have known them a little longer. you WILL get there. They also may meet otc or do extras not sure but just an idea. Just be you and when you feel good look good you will always do good. I was always positive even with my 60 dollars because I knew that the next day or next I could more than triple that. If you are in a bad mood it will make you feel worse and not even want to be there. Even when I was in a bad mood I would get happy if I couldn't get happy I didn't go to work. Good luck bby

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    gotta find your hustle. try new things. my first few months I barely made more than $300 ever. now I make at least $800 every shift, crack the $1k every Saturday at least. trying being more demanding. works for me

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    Have you tried switching up other clubs? Some clubs I know I'll definitely never reach anywhere near a grand, but there were a few others where I've gotten pretty close or actually broke it (although very few times). Or I'll do really well in one club and other girls don't do as well, or the reverse. Every club has their own earning ceiling.

    I can count only a handful of times where I broke over a grand. I wouldn't sweat it and I also wouldn't trust what other strippers say about their own earnings. There is probably more money in travel dancing anyway and that's probably where a lot of girls see more frequent 1k nights.

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    do you know for sure that these girls are making so much more than you, or is it just what they are telling you? because the strippers who love to brag in the dressing room are usually the ones not making jack and trying to overcompensate and impress other girls.
    i almost never break a grand either. i think i've done it once or twice, my club just isn't set up for that to be an easy nightly goal. i'm kind of in the same boat as you tho, i'm not seeing an increase in earnings after 3 years of dancing and its bothering me.
    i suggest switching up your hustle. try something totally new. also go in with a different outfit, hairstyle/color/makeup. make yourself feel irresistible. if what you are doing right now isn't working, then do something different!
    the girls that i see making the most money at my club are the tenacious ones who assume the sale and take charge of the situation..they just don't take no as an answer. or the ones who get slightly touchy and use a sexual tone when hustling ;and no i'm not talking about crotch grabs. i'm talking drawing attention to their boobs, whispering in the customers ears, touching their shoulders. most of all, not being afraid of rejection and confident in themselves.

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    I'm not usually down at work. I feel great about myself, I love dancing. I did take a break from my old in because I was there from May to December and stuck on dayshift where I sometimes struggled to leave with $20. I was depressed and often left crying. I made great money when I picked up night shifts. When I decided to go on leave over Christmas and New Years to give myself some time away from dancing my manager terminated my contract. However, i was extremely broke for 2 months...like struggling to feed myself broke. So I started at a new club about 3 weeks ago and it's awesome! My managers and floor hosts actually care and help me make money instead of putting me down for not selling rooms every night. I make money like I was used to before the last club. Breaking 1k at the clubs I've worked at is very common. It's not that I hear girls bragging about what they made, I just overhear things in passing or it'll be from one of my friends who was having a hard time before like I was. I know moneys made in the last 1-2 hours, especially at my new club. Taking another break from dancing is in no way an option for me. I have no savings, I basically live day to day on what I make trying to catch up financially which is why that goal is so important to me. Idk why I was so down last night. I'm excited to go back tonight though it'll probably be slow.

    I also haven't cammed in almost a month and it was nice getting that money every couple weeks but I stay in a tiny room at a hotel that's kind of old so idk if my neighbors could hear me lol. I've been meaning to when the bar downstairs is open so the noise might cover for me.

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    Default Re: Idk what I've been doing wrong all this time..

    Check out the sticky thread, in Hustle Hut: Law of Attraction & me a $ Magnet..there's a LOA group that anyone can join. I currently don't dance, but, that group & its vids/threads have really helped me $-wise. Good luck!


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    You've gotta demand the money you want, expect to make it, appreciate every fucking dollar and love, love, love yourself. That's number one. It's ALL in your attitude and your expectation. You've gotta know that you are in the club to MAKE MONEY and even if you walk away "average" compared to someone else, you've gotta be proud of yourself and you've gotta remember that some girls did worse than you. My hustle keeps getting better and better now that I've trained myself into this mindset. You can't compare yourself to other girls, just know that the better attitude you have, the more money you expect, the more moeny you will make. Read the Law of Attraction thread in Hustle Hut, that shit is like magic, if you don't "believe" in it, I honestly feel sorry for you, your money is in your attitude 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittykatSPANK View Post
    I worked 3 hours and made $110 after tipout and I know most of the other girls made way more than that in the time I was there.
    so lets do some basic math here.....you worked 3 hours and made $110.....you do realize that is over $35 per hour right? and your complaining? talk about greed....stop comparing yourself to the others, it doesnt matter what industry your working in, there will ALWAYS BE others making more than YOU!

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    Just another perspective... Take out 1/3 of that $37ish for taxes and it's more like $25. Still a good hourly rate for the rest of the world, but stripping is hard physical labor with additional risks. Every night you walk in the door you could be assaulted by a customer or even another dancer, pick up a new stalker, face pressure to do things you don't want to do by staff and customers alike, molested, hell, even be killed at work. It has happened often enough, google it. All of this on top of the fact that your career will end far before retirement age in most cases, either because you'll be fired for looking old, or your body will give out, or even more likely, you'll just be too psychologically burnt out to continue. And unless you want to take on another position in the strip club after you retire, you're left without much in the way of references.

    It's probably not as physically strenuous or as dangerous as Alaskan crab fishing, but certainly bad enough that we deserve to strive for the most money possible without being guilted by people who don't get it.

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    When I was dancing and wanted to make more, I started a journal! Every night I would write down how much I made before and after tip out--then calculate how much I made per hour. I would write down what tactics did-and didn't work to make a sale and write down a goal for the next night. I found that when I saw how much I made per hour and per week and had a real goal in mind every night I usually reached it! My best night ever was $640...that's more than what my husband makes in a week working full time--and I made it in 5 hours. Sometimes it helps to compare how much you make to how much "normal" people make to put it in perspective.


    Edited to add: my best friend at that club AVERAGED $600-$1,000 a night. She has a much better hustle and her personality just suits dancing to a tee. She gave me a lot of good advice that helped me make more $, but I don't think I ever made more than she did. I think some ladies really are just better at this than others. It helps to use dancing to work toward a more long term career that's suited to you. Her plan is to dance as long as she can and invest in real estate. I went back to college and don't plan to do this for more than 2 more years tops. Different strokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by For What Its Worth View Post
    so lets do some basic math here.....you worked 3 hours and made $110.....you do realize that is over $35 per hour right? and your complaining? talk about greed....stop comparing yourself to the others, it doesnt matter what industry your working in, there will ALWAYS BE others making more than YOU!
    Oh stop it. It is not greedy to want to make more than $35 an hour for taking your clothes off. Spare us that bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol1337a View Post
    Take out 1/3 of that $37ish for taxes and it's more like $25. Still a good hourly rate for the rest of the world, but stripping is hard physical labor with additional risks. Every night you walk in the door you could be assaulted by a customer or even another dancer, pick up a new stalker, face pressure to do things you don't want to do by staff and customers alike, molested, hell, even be killed at work.
    so what?

    there are lots of jobs where people have risks of injury or death and do not get paid $35 per hour....a police officer, a firemen/women, steelworkers, etc etc....hell even factory workers working around heavy machinery all day long are risking injury, what do they get paid?....maybe $15 per hour?

    the only people who have a right to complain about "only" making $35 per hour are people who have spent 5-10 years of their life getting a formal education for their profession....a doctor, a lawyer, a dentist, are good examples

    im sorry, but if your job requires ZERO formal education, then you have no right to complain about $35 per hour....more than half of the people in the country would be happy to make HALF of that wage!

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    ^strippers also run the risk of having stripping show up on their background check, and eliminating possible vanilla job opportunities..not to mention all the years of work history that cannot be put on a serious work resume. and there is a limited time that most of us can make money. so sorry but a lot of us are looking to make more than 35 an hour and it doesn't make us greedy. people also have different bills/lifestyles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For What Its Worth View Post
    so what?

    there are lots of jobs where people have risks of injury or death and do not get paid $35 per hour....a police officer, a firemen/women, steelworkers, etc etc....hell even factory workers working around heavy machinery all day long are risking injury, what do they get paid?....maybe $15 per hour?

    the only people who have a right to complain about "only" making $35 per hour are people who have spent 5-10 years of their life getting a formal education for their profession....a doctor, a lawyer, a dentist, are good examples

    im sorry, but if your job requires ZERO formal education, then you have no right to complain about $35 per hour....more than half of the people in the country would be happy to make HALF of that wage!
    I wonder how old you are and how much life experience you have. My husband is an electrical apprentice and he makes more than $35 an hour. He made more than that as a helicopter mechanic too.

    $35 an hour isn't some magical, amazing wage. Perhaps you grew up in poverty or an area with an extremely low cost of living so you don't know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    I wonder how old you are and how much life experience you have. My husband is an electrical apprentice and he makes more than $35 an hour. He made more than that as a helicopter mechanic too.

    $35 an hour isn't some magical, amazing wage. Perhaps you grew up in poverty or an area with an extremely low cost of living so you don't know that.
    that's irrelevant and none of your business, but i actually grew up in a very wealthy family,

    and im calling BS on that, i know for a fact that a FULLY LICENSED electrician does not even make $35 per hour when they first get their license, after many years maybe, but not at first,

    an apprentice would not even get half of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by For What Its Worth View Post
    that's irrelevant and none of your business, but i actually grew up in a very wealthy family,

    and im calling BS on that, i know for a fact that a FULLY LICENSED electrician does not even make $35 per hour when they first get their license, after many years maybe, but not at first,

    an apprentice would not even get half of that
    You're incorrect. You must come from somewhere with a very low cost of living if a licensed electrician doesn't even make $35 an hour. By the way, are you referring to a journeyman or master electrician when you say fully licensed?

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    Oh, and just to make you look like even more of an ass, here's some proof.

    http://www.laborcommissioner.com/pre...2013/CLARK.pdf

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    I love when people come on here and their first 3 posts are just rude comments towards the established members.

    As Simone said, we pay a LOT of other costs due to the "taboo" of our job, so $35 an hour hardly seems worth it. When I have to worry about being fired from my day job if someone walks in, keep it hidden from family members, worry about being stalked home, and have to fend off sexual assault daily.... I sure as hell want to make as much as I can to make it worth all the bullshit that comes with it.

    Yes, I chose my job, but when I did, I realized all the above nonsense that comes with it and said "I need to make xxx dollars a month for this to be worth that shit." We have every right to bitch about the shit anyway; just because we chose to strip and are making what you deem to be soooo much, does not mean we don't have the right to bitch about our jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kittykatSPANK View Post
    1 I've been dancing for almost 3 years and i've never had that like *amazing* night

    2 I'll even be sitting with the same group of guys and see them just handing money to my friends

    3 I got to work really late tonight because my key got stuck in the front door

    4 I worked 3 hours and made $110 after tipout and I know most of the other girls made way more than that in the time I was there

    5 I hate to be a downer but it really sucks to stop and think that I've never had that miracle night/customer

    6 I've never broken 1k

    7 When I'm really excited and think I had a good night...it's always everyone else's average night.
    I am sorry you had a rough night. Most of us have been there and it sucks.

    If you allow me, I will explain the issues that you are facing:

    1: Dancing isn't made of amazing nights. Amazing nights are a cherry atop the ice cream sundae. Work is work, girl. Meet your quota and bank. Amazing nights are amazing for you and you alone. If you average $300 or so a night... and you get a $500 night.... it's amazing... or at least it should be! Appreciate that you've broken your personal records...

    2: If you are sitting with the same group of guys (that aren't paying you).... for lengthy stretches at a time.... with no promise of VIP.... Just pick up that shotgun and aim it right at your foot, missy. You dun effed up. If you are perpetually around a group that is unwilling to tip YOU... you are agreeing to being scenery/furniture. They don't owe you a dime. But you owe yourself enough respect to cut them off from your company if YOU are not being compensated.

    3 & 4 : About that key... No one cares. Your problem. Seriously. Shit happens and you are making excuses when no one is even asking for them! If you got to work late and only work 3 hours... what do yo expect? If you only have a 3 hour window to work, how can you reasonably expect $1K+???

    5: Miracle nights/customers... you have got to be kidding me. Stripping isn't a fairy tale! It is a JOB!

    "Miracle nights" are few and far between, see point #1. You are putting in minimal time/effort and expecting A LOT you aren't aware of reality... Have you seen the stats on this economy? Guys don't have money to throw around as much as they used to. And the truth is that maybe THOSE guys didn't want to throw whatever money they had to YOU. I'm sorry.
    The Wolf of Wall Street wasn't set in 2014. Stripping is WORK... and yeah it's hard. You have to Hustle, Sell, and do the WORK that it takes to meet your financial expectations.

    6: YOU need to remember that this JOB, and that Stripping is cumulative. It isn't about monetary spikes on a good night. We don't get trophies or awards. As long as it is worth it to you, increase your work days/hours and rock it to the point where you're comfortable.

    My guess is that you have a hang-up on the numbers. Banking consistently for 3 years, you've made 1K dozens of times per week or per month. Keep that in mind. It's not about a one-night lottery. It's about getting consistent income on a regular basis. Weigh it all out at the end of each week/month/year and see if you are making improvements. Honestly... do this.

    7: And now onto the most important point... STOP judging yourself against others. Keep your eyes on the guys and out of ladies garters. Focus on getting paid, not on what guys are paying other strippers.

    If a group doesn't like you, forget about them. Find YOUR money elsewhere. Don't sit like some sort of fixture MOVE ON and MAKE MONEY.


    Don't cuddle excuses. Don't complain about short nights. Don't worry about anything other than your bank account. You, my dear, are an independent contractor. You work for yourself and you decide what amount of effort you are willing to put into your endeavor. Don't ever complain about a 3 hour night that netted you $36.67 per hour. Put in more effort or GTFO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by For What Its Worth View Post
    so lets do some basic math here.....you worked 3 hours and made $110.....you do realize that is over $35 per hour right? and your complaining? talk about greed....stop comparing yourself to the others, it doesnt matter what industry your working in, there will ALWAYS BE others making more than YOU!
    Calm down there, FWIW. You aren't doing yourself any favors.
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    ^What Sophia said.
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    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

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    Let's get back on topic and away from personal attacks.

    OP - would you describe your appearance on a typical night at work? Is your hair short, as it is in your profile picture? What sorts of outfits do you wear? Do you work in an upscale club or dive? What do the other girls tend to wear? We need more information.

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    I agree with Sophia. If you have an average that you typically make in a night, and you make even 25 percent more, consider it a good night! If you keep trying to learn from what you do wrong, you will start to make more money.

    And do not compare yourself to other girls, because most of them are full of it. And even if they did have a great day, good for them. Your great day will be tomorrow.

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    Default Re: Idk what I've been doing wrong all this time..

    Stop comparing yourself and your income to the other dancers. That-- right there-- will kill your money. There is a girl at my club that pulls $1k out of the bar every time she works. She's not an extras girl, but she has the creepiest regulars I've ever seen. She has to be shitfaced drunk to work and blacks out frequently because of it. I went home with $104 yesterday. I could have made more if I wanted to hang out with a creeper who was in the bar (all the girls avoid him even though he spends a lot of money). It just wasn't worth it to me. I was happier to go home with nothing versus letting that weirdo mess with my head in exchange for cash.

    This job is a series of trade offs. Decide what is most important to you, then make decisions based on that. If money is most important, then you will make more money.

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