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    Default Black Chick worried that I'm not "urban" enough for the SC I want to audition for?

    I'm at a point in my life where I'm more than ready to start dancing again. My first foray into dancing two summers ago did NOT end well for me, but I got a lot of valuable tips for what to do better the next time. I've wanted to be a dancer since the age of 17, and I'm really determined to make it happen this time! Everything seems right--I just moved to a new city where I don't know anyone. I'm in a pretty dastardly financial situation, and the rent is due in a week. I have a full-time job that I like but it's not paying enough to cover rent, gas and food--I'm prepared to quit or switch to fewer hours if necessary. Also, I have nothing to lose, and I have an unusually good feeling about auditioning this time...

    ...Until I decided to do some research on the club I want to work at, and I came across this short video showcasing the dancers and the club atmosphere:

    http://vimeo.com/73075947

    It's an urban club! I didn't know that it was going to be like that. I'm worried and I feel intimidated. Is this the club for me? I'm black, curvy and I have a big booty--just like the dancers in the video--but I'm not from the hood. By high school, I was living in an upper-class neighborhood. I'm afraid that the clientele there wouldn't be able to relate to me as well, and I'd lose out on money because of it. I'm also sure that I'd be out-booty-popped by every dancer in there--it takes special skill and practice to dance like that! I could see myself being laughed out of the place in no time African-American men (usually a little older than me) and Latino guys seem to be the most attracted to me, so no matter how much doubt I have, my target audience is at Pulse. I wonder if I wouldn't do better at Curves though. It's further away, and the dancers are mostly white I think. I'm just not sure anymore

    Other thoughts: I have black yarn dreadlocks. They are thin, layered, long (the longest go past my boobs) and incredibly sexy in my opinion. I've gotten a lot of compliments on them. I've had many different hairstyles in the past, but I am the most comfortable with my fake dreads. I've been on the fence about whether or not I should keep them and walk into the club with the utmost confidence, or spend $$ I don't have and buy an uncomfortable wig for the audition. The last time I worked with a wig, I'm pretty sure I lost a lot of sales because I was too distracted and insecure about the wig possibly coming off to think "be sexy".


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    Default Re: Black Chick worried that I'm not "urban" enough for the SC I want to audition for

    There are SO many clubs in NYC. Why don't you post a pic and we can direct you to another club that might suit you better. Welcome to NY !

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    Default Re: Black Chick worried that I'm not "urban" enough for the SC I want to audition for

    Thank you!

    I felt a little silly after I posted this. I wanted to delete it because I wasn't sure if I had offended anyone...

    But you're right, there are a lot of clubs in both NYC and NJ that I could try. This club has the advantage of being closest to my house (but not too close). For some reason, I have a weirdly good feeling about auditioning there. I think my wallet is tingling! Lol.

    Today I bought a really sexy wig that's boosted my confidence. I "studied" the video, and I slowly realized that there was probably nothing there that I couldn't learn with a lot of practice and watching. I plan on going in there this week, with a hopefully level head, and keeping my options open.


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    Default Re: Black Chick worried that I'm not "urban" enough for the SC I want to audition for

    I am a long time lurker on this site, but finally joined just so I could reply to this post because I know what it's like to move to NYC and not have a clue how the clubs work out here.

    Like you, I am "thick" (thick is good, fat is bad) and I am used to an upscale type hustle. I used to work at upscale clubs back home when I was thin but after gaining some weight and getting older, my body has definitely changed. Moving to New York, I knew Manhattan was out of the question and sure enough got rejected or told to lose weight by every Manhattan club I tried.

    Everyone told me to try urban clubs and said I would do well there, but like you I was so intimidated. I felt I wasn't ratchet enough so I stuck to mid tier clubs in Queens and while it was a good introduction to dancing in ny, I felt like my money potential wasn't as good as it could be.

    I finally bit the bullet one day and went into an urban club and since then have never looked back. I kick myself for not doing it sooner. The reality in New York is that upscale clubs with VIP rooms and urban clubs with a make it rain type of crowd are very lucrative. And less straining on the body Mid tier clubs that rely mainly on lapdances can be lucrative. But I found that my body was exhausted from doing so many dances and I had to learn how to stack dances in order to make "good money." I can make just as much money without doing one lapdance the entire night at an urban club.

    You don't have to be ghetto to do well at an urban club. Be thankful you have a big booty as that is half the battle won already. The trick to making it in this type of club is to act like you're out at an actual club. They want that fun, party girl. I have the most valley girl accent, but I'm funny and crack jokes and I act like a fun, drunk girl even though I dont drink. Making your ass clap can come in handy but that will come in due time. Some girls hate dancing for dollars but i love that I don't have to get topless and can make lap dance money in 10 seconds. Also the DJs at urban clubs love to guilt trip customers into throwing and spending more money. They'll call them out on it from the dj booth and it works.

    And the best feeling in the world is when some random guy makes it rain on stage not because he likes you but just because he feels like throwing money.

    However one thing you have to do at these clubs is keep to yourself and keep your eyes on your money. I know it'll be hard because you're new but keeping to yourself will be the best thing for you because these girls are all about their money. When I first started they tried to act super friendly and ask me a lot of personal questions. While I was polite back, I made it obvious I wanted to keep to myself and i am glad I did because the same girls that tried so hard to befriend me I see taking other girl's money and causing fights in the dressing room. But try not to come across as snobby. Smile and be polite but dont be overly friendly. Just a word of caution.

    So I hope this helps. Sorry this is so long. It's my first post on the site. Also if you decide to work at an urban club don't bother with the wig. Your hair is sexy and I've seem it before at my clubs. You should see the hair I see on some of these girls. Welcome to ny. I say you don't wait and start working asap to get in on the last of the tax season dollars Let me know if you have any other questions and feel free to pm if you need anything.

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    Default Re: Black Chick worried that I'm not "urban" enough for the SC I want to audition for

    BarbieNYC thank you for your post; i'm finding myself in the same position as the OP, wanting to try an urban club but am afraid i'm not "ratchet enough," lol. i actually have a question, too--since these are "make it rain" type of clubs and there are usually two girls or more on stage at a time, how do you go about keeping your money on stage after a customer makes it rain? or do you divide it up? do other girls often try to take your money from off the stage or are they mostly respectful about it?

    and OP, if i were to try an urban club, pulse or the palace (NJ) would be my choices, too (maybe i'll see you, haha). i can say curves is a decent spot too--i went as a customer a year ago and the crowd seems a lot more mellow than the one in that video, but they still played a lot of hip hop and appreciated girls with curves (hence the name). your customer base will be a lot more varied there, though. i saw a lot of italian guys (they love big booties, too!).

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    Hi countcrabula. No problem I am going to be honest with you. It all depends. I will give you different scenarios.

    Generally if a guy makes it obvious he is throwing the money at a specific girl (eye contact with her, they were sitting together etc) and some of her dollars fall closer to the other girl on stage, the girl on stage either pushes it with her feet towards the other girl or the girl who got rained on quickly moves it towards her side. Some girls are ratchet and try to keep it and I've had that happen to me before. (had a girl step on my hand with her heel and put her heel over one dollar before. Lol), but if it's a few dollars I let it go because if a girl is that desperate for a dollar, it means she is struggling. I don't need to fight for a measly couple of dollars.

    It can get complicated though when a guy is just drunk and throwing money to throw money. Sometimes the bus boy collects it in a pail and takes it to the housemom who counts it and splits it. Other times the girls just do the foot thing and split the money on stage in half. You generally keep what's on your side. Sometimes I've seen both girls gather the money in a pail and go downstairs to count it. I've seen some really ratchet shit though where one girl got $100 thrown on her and the other girl on stage got thrown like $10 and the $10 girl had the nerve to try and collect half of $100 girl's money. Thankfully the customer complained and the other girl had to give the money in her pail back. Also the manager at my club is awesome and watches out for us. The other night a super ratchet girl was dancing on stage and a girl was getting tips from the customers in front of her and the customers threw money on the girl getting tipped. But almost half of that money ended up on the stage and the girl on stage (who had just got on and hadn't even started dancing) tried to put the money in a pile towards her, but my manager saw and called her out on it.
    But I'm not gonna sugarcoat it and say I don't see that happen every once in a while.

    Sometimes there's a happy ending. I remember the bartender's boyfriend came in and maid it rain $1000 on her and I was dancing on stage behind her so a lot of the money fell on my part of the stage and it looked like I was getting rained on. I got $1000 thrown on me throughout my entire set and it sucked because I couldn't keep any of it. But oh my God to have all that money thrown on you, the feeling was amazing. So I did what a nice girl would have done and pushed all the money towards her and the boyfriend appreciated it so much that on my next set, he had her throw a couple hundred on me. So I do believe in karma in the club

    One thing I love about urban clubs is the customers speak up. I remember one guy kept throwing money on me and his girlfriend and another girl comes over and starts dancing over my money. He throws a couple of dollars before he realizes I haven't picked up my money, stops, and tells me to pick up my money first. When the girl tried to fight me and tell me to leave half on the floor because he "made it rain" on her too, he says "I threw 10 dollars on you. So you can take 10 from that pile, the rest is hers."

    This scenario has happened to me more than once and I have never had to fight a girl for money as guys don't like thirsty, desperate girls. I've had customers tell girls not to pick up my money. I am good with groups of guys and it's hard for a girl to fight you when you have other people saying the same thing.

    It's a pain in the ass when your money gets mixed with another girl's money.
    You have to watch out for bottom feeders. These are girls that watch who is throwing money on a girl and go up to the guy before the girl has picked up her pile to try and get some money thrown on them and then take some of the other girl's money (like what happened with me and $10 girl) Or they will pick up random dollars off the floor. Or when a guy throws money on a girl and a couple of dollars fall farther away they will scoop it up. It's sad really.

    So I hope this helps. Pretty much this just means try and pick up your money asap or pile it by you. I know it kills the mood a little when a guy is just throwing money on you and you have to stop and pick it up but the guys understand.

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    Default Re: Black Chick worried that I'm not "urban" enough for the SC I want to audition for

    Also to the OP, I'm not sure how your commute from Staten island would be, but don't forget about queens and Brooklyn clubs. We have a couple of great urban clubs ranging from small to crazy big. But since Pulse is close to you, I say go for it.

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    Default Re: Black Chick worried that I'm not "urban" enough for the SC I want to audition for

    thank you so, so much! i usually do great with urban guys (at least in a predominantly white club--but that might be because i'm the only one with hips/ass). now i know what to look out for/maybe will try at least VISITING pulse, see just how hood/unhood the scene is, and maybe give it a shot.

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    Default Re: Black Chick worried that I'm not "urban" enough for the SC I want to audition for

    What are good urban clubs to work at in ny? I'm in ct now but originally from the bronx sues is out of the question to many people I know frequent there and I'm a little pervious about perfections and starlets

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