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    Tired Advice Please On How To Raise Rates to Actually make Camming Worth It~I'll Explain

    Maybe this is directed to veteran cam ladies, who have cammed for many years, maybe to those that got their 'Game' down in a short time camming. I value You opinions.
    I started camming over 3 years ago, and didn't even know about this forum until I was camming over a year and a half.
    I didn't know about asking the company to raise my rate chart , hustling techniques, etc.
    I have built up my regulars, and repeats significantly through the years, yet seem to be going backwards instead of forward with rates.

    If I had known in the beginning to raise my rates, I would for sure worked on getting them to $9 dollars, and higher, like most have done.
    Now, I only get taken Prvt., or Exclusive if my rates are almost back to where they were 3 years ago. Which means my income never goes up that much, even though living expenses do.

    I've read through the 'Raise Your rates challenge' thread, but it seems that if I even go to the next dollar amount, Nobody goes prvt.

    I have mostly guys under 30, (I'm older), and do lots of specialized sessions that are unique. Yet, I'm not getting paid what I feel I should.
    Add to the fact, that guys are only in prvt. or exclusive for 2-3 minutes-TOPS!!
    I've tried the slow seduction, drag it out with questions, yet, it seems if I don't get to why they are there, they log out.
    A lot of guys 'edge' with staying in my chat, or maybe hovering, and they are fully erect and ready to pop when they are in prvt., and turn on their cam.
    All this to say, I can't keep working 8-10 hr. days just to try and make more money.
    I'm burnt out!!
    Thanks for Your suggestions.
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    Default Re: Advice Please On How To Raise Rates to Actually make Camming Worth It~I'll Explai

    how much do you raise it at once? ive had success with raising my prices like 10 cents a week, but if I go any faster than that it never works for me lol

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    Default Re: Advice Please On How To Raise Rates to Actually make Camming Worth It~I'll Explai

    I can't raise it beyond the .99 mark, where it goes into the next dollar amount.

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    Default Re: Advice Please On How To Raise Rates to Actually make Camming Worth It~I'll Explai

    How much do you charge, if you don't mind my asking, and what site(s) are you on?

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    How long do you keep your rates raised? From what I've seen, you need to give it time, like at least a week. A lot of people only give it 1 or 2 days and then give up.

    Perhaps you could work your usual hours at your normal rate but either the first or last hour at a higher rate, slowly working the higher rate in an hour at a time.

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    It's really fucking hard to raise them and keep them up because you have got to put up with a lot of time in free chat. If I've lowered them temporarily it takes me about a week to get back up to speed it seems. I think the best strategy is to try your best to get ahead enough where you can sacrifice the first week without worrying too much if you get shows. You may find after the second week that your hourly is a lot higher. I thought I was making more at a lower rate but then the rate tool showed me it only seemed busier because I was exhausted!

    Also I do lower them a bit during daytime. I find easier to get them to pay more at evening and nights.


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    When you raise your rates you have to make a commitment to stick to them, I came back on at 3.99 and 4.99 I stayed in that rate for about 2 months then raised it to 4.99 and 5.99 it took about a month to see any changes. Any big changes you make you need to give it time to adjust.

    raising your rates every few hours isn't going to show results either.
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    I don't even think having the highest rates means the most money. At around $5.99 for private, I can get multiple guys (sometimes up to 10!) in private and keep them there, and that nets me the most profit. They all interact with each other, so they have incentive to stay.

    You can't charge more than guys will spend or its not worth it. You just have to try every rate, both high and low, and see what makes you the most profit overall. I don't know why a lot of people here talk about how you need the highest rates. You really don't, if that isn't making you the most profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    raising your rates every few hours isn't going to show results either.
    Not sure if you were referring to my comment earlier. The way I meant it was, say you work 4 hours. Leave 3 hours at the lower rate and 1 hour higher. The next week do 2 and 2, the week after 3 and 1, the after 1 month keep your rates at the higher one your whole shift. I was thinking that if you really can't afford a huge hit to earnings, doing it an hour at a time may be able to help ease your way to the higher rate. By the time a month goes by, customers are used to seeing that higher price and start taking you private because they see you aren't lowering the rate. Plus it gives you time to 1)adjust to amount/duration of privates 2)the amount of time spent in freechat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    I don't even think having the highest rates means the most money. At around $5.99 for private, I can get multiple guys (sometimes up to 10!) in private and keep them there, and that nets me the most profit. They all interact with each other, so they have incentive to stay.

    You can't charge more than guys will spend or its not worth it. You just have to try every rate, both high and low, and see what makes you the most profit overall. I don't know why a lot of people here talk about how you need the highest rates. You really don't, if that isn't making you the most profit.
    I guess we all have a different idea of what high is. I consider 5.99 for group/private on the higher end, and 6.99 on the higher side for exclusive. That is really awesome that you get multiples at that rate!!


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    ^Yeah, I'm very pro-raising rates now but I consider "high" around 6/7$ a minute. I'd be okay with charging 2-3 dollars a minute if I were on Niteflirt or something because you get a way bigger cut. But with SM, you only make 35% . It depends on if you are more of a group show model or if guys generally want you one on one. If you regularly get a bunch of guys in prvt, it makes sense to go with volume. I wouldn't recommend charging 10+/min because most guys are unwilling to spend that.

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    I would think that over the years, you should be making more because you are staying busier and having longer shows, rather than because you are raising your rates. I would start with trying to make the shows you do get last longer before I would start to raise rates.

    If you do decide to raise your rates, it's really just a waiting game. You're likely going to get less privates at higher rates, so the idea is to also get longer privates at the higher rates, so that it makes up for not having as many privates. That's why I think you need to work first on getting your shows to last longer. If you get less privates at a higher rate that are very short, you won't be making any more than you are now.

    A good place to start might be raising your exclusive but not your premium. I see so many girls charging only $1 more for exclusive and it's really a shot in the foot. If you're going to be stuck to having just one guy in private without the added benefit of multiple guys being able to come in, you want to at least be making what you would if you had two guys in premium. So I would double your exclusive rate from what your premium rate is.
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    Some sites are REALLY hard to raise your rates on. I'm on cb primarily and you can't raise it a couple cents at a time like SM, which sucks. The rate jumps are so extreme that it's hard get my private regulars to buy in. I've kept my rate around $3 a minute because it's nearly impossible to get a private at the next bracket ($6 a minute) on a regular basis. The jump is too extreme. I've been doing super well in my public shows recently and decided to try something. I upped my public show rate 1000tk when I got better internet and even though a couple regulars complained, I have waaaay more viewers because of the improved internet and I'm hitting my goal in about the same time. Because of how many people there are in my chat now, I raise my private rate the second I have more than 300 people in there from 30tk a minute to 120tk a minute. I figure if they want to drag me away from a public show and drain my viewership, I'm going to drain their wallet in return. Normally 2 or 3 times a week someone will buy into it at the 120tk rate at some point for 10 minutes or so... which is a quick extra $60+ for me so I don't mind. Idk if you have the option to, but maybe buy into slightly faster internet and then raise your rate... it seems to be paying off really well for me. Plus, from what I understand of SM (stop me if I'm wrong), it'll help your placement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    That's why I think you need to work first on getting your shows to last longer. If you get less privates at a higher rate that are very short, you won't be making any more than you are now.
    I agree with this. I would try to figure out why your shows aren't lasting as long as you want them to. IMO, it should be pretty easy with regulars to either stretch the show out really long, or make it nice and quick, depending on how many guys are in your room waiting to take you private.

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    Thanks Everyone for all Your great suggestions.
    I will try them all to find what works best.
    Regarding keeping guys in paid chat longer, one thing I have noticed since the guys have option to view us using tablets, phones, etc., is that they are getting disconnected more now than before. They e-mail me after the short prvt. and tell me.
    It really has to do with when the cam site gives me the work though.
    For instance, yesterday when I logged in when I should be there, I was in back-to-back prvts, at my usual higher rate. One lasting over a half hr., until he got disconnected.(He e-mailed me that).
    Plus, all the guys who are repeats, and some who just stay in my free chat when I'm on and it's not my time, all went for long prvts.
    I just really want to work when it's convenient for me. I guess I have to just adjust my life, and sadly my sleep schedule around camming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    It really has to do with when the cam site gives me the work though.
    For instance, yesterday when I logged in when I should be there, I was in back-to-back prvts, at my usual higher rate. One lasting over a half hr., until he got disconnected.(He e-mailed me that).
    Plus, all the guys who are repeats, and some who just stay in my free chat when I'm on and it's not my time, all went for long prvts.
    I just really want to work when it's convenient for me. I guess I have to just adjust my life, and sadly my sleep schedule around camming.
    This is my biggest gripe with camming! It is so irritating having to work when I'd rather be sleeping or socializing.

    I'm working on my clips stores and slowly building up with the goal of replacing at least half my income with passive type work so that I can work the hours I choose and not be forced to work nights. (Ideally I'd love to replace at least 80% or more of my income with clips and such things).


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    I'm working on my clips stores and slowly building up with the goal of replacing at least half my income with passive type work so that I can work the hours I choose and not be forced to work nights. (Ideally I'd love to replace at least 80% or more of my income with clips and such things).
    indeed this is the 'secret' to long term success !

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    Ditto!~ Laurie, I see we are in the same boat! I was always told, keep a schedule, so clients know when to find u. No,,,, Then, log on, make money, just put in the hours... No,,, that wasn't it. Oh, stay up all night, that's when I am most successful.. I get it now, ,Duh!!

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    Believe & know you are worth more. Have faith & don't even question whether or not you will make money. I raised my rates & actually got busier. Do visualizations, do a few mantras.

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