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    Mind Blowing Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    I don't understand how someone thinks that letting a random person put their dick in them is "revenge" or getting one up on their cheating spouse or whatever. It just makes you every bit as bad as they are.

    Congratulations, OP! You're a cheater now, too.
    All those awful things you've been thinking about your SO... that he's disgusting? An asshole? A piece of shit? Selfish? Those all apply to you just as much as him. Enjoy your trophy video.

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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    whirlerz is such a tease...



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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Personal opinion, this is probably going to sound bitchy but I'm really not meaning it to be...a massage with a professional sex worker =/= having sex with someone and videotaping it as revenge. You just made yourself the super bad guy in this. He was getting a massage with a happy ending (a HANDJOB typically, a blowjob rarely) from a professional sex worker because he wanted to relax and have an orgasm, that's usually it. You, on the other hand, had full on sex with someone as a means of revenge. If you got your twat fiddled at a massage parlor, I'd say it was justified. You risked potential pregnancy, STIs, and your relationship for a guy doing what MOST MEN DO since the beginning of time. You're broken hearted because he got a handjob from someone he paid. You fucked someone for free and taped it. I wouldn't show him because he'll probably get a hold of it and spread it across the internet. I hope you used protection.
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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Cheating is about lying more then it is anything else. Even when you do everything right it still happens.

    So blaming the OP for him cheating is insane. It was his choice to lie to her about what he was doing.
    I dont care if your SO is bat shit crazy, it doesnt justify lying and cheating. You have even more reasons to do the right thing and leave!!!
    People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

    Having said that, getting revenge never works out the way you want it too. The only thing it does is prevent you from letting go, healing, and moving on.
    Realizing you are better then the lying and deserve better. Learn the lessons and move on to something better.
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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Nobody is blaming her for him cheating. We ARE, however, calling her to task for her disproportionate reaction.

    Beyond that, Vamp, Desu, et al are completely on point - what he did was wrong. What the OP is doing with it is like responding to an armed robber with a nuke. And her attitude is that it's completely justified. SMH

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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by mamasan01 View Post
    What if my BF will beat that guy up?
    Would you tape that too?


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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    Based on everything the OP has posted thus far, I am not the least bit surprised her SO was looking elsewhere for relaxation and release.

    You dont seem to be aware of when you are blaming women for others actions. You have done this before in other threads.
    What you said above is blaming her for his cheating. You are implying she got what she deserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    Would you tape that too?
    Send both tapes to me. I'll edit it to some music!
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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Vamp - I respect your positions on these forums, but you DO buy into the SJ mentality of everything that someone says can be taken to the extreme of possible offensive meanings. Sometimes people say things that aren't specifically intended to cause harm to someone's psyche. Some people speak their mind. I'm one of them.

    The OP's general attitude in this thread is indicative of a controlling, insecure woman who uses sex as a tool for manipulation. Feel free to disagree, but that's my opinion and you aren't going to change it. Having known many and dated a few of those - I would not, ever, condemn a man for seeking out a safe and discreet outlet for his frustrations in that department. He wasn't risking knocking a girl up, he wasn't risking STD's, he wasn't trying to fall in love and replace the relationship - all of which, it should be noted, the OP ABSOLUTELY DID IN RESPONSE assuming her posts - and indeed this entire thread - are truthful. I would go so far as to say what he did was a brilliant move that eased what could easily be a hotpoint of contention in their relationship at no risk to said relationship.

    Personally, I wouldn't do it. Personally, I believe in being honest. Personally, I wouldn't stay with a woman like that. But you know what? I won't condemn him having heard only one (rather psychotic) side of the story, either.

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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Ok. Lets get really really real here. The issue isn't about that your man cheated, or that you REALLY cheated. It's the fact that you both have such shitty communication in the first place. Like, you had to go manipulate his friend...wouldn't any normal human being call/text/visit their ex and say "WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?". Instead you (a) keep it a secret that you knew and (b) use that as a reason to sleep with a guy you probably were already considering being with, you just now had what you think is a "justifiable reason" to cheat. Honestly, I'd say you'd both be luckier without each other.
    On the other hand, if my sig other would go off to get a handjob at a MP, I would get a little peeved, but I would talk about it in a way to improve the relationship, not just throw a relationship away because I wanted to fuck someone else. Cause that's deep down what this is about. I don't think a relationship should ever be tit for tat, but what you did was, in your mind, equate a handjob, which most guys don't even prefer as far as things go, for LETTING SOME GUY STICK HIS PENIS INSIDE YOU.
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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Assuming the events described in the OP actually happened, the guy started this trainwreck by lying to her about getting a handjob. Blaming her for this situation on the basis of reading a few posts on Stripperweb is not really the solution. Of course she ought to just move on with her life and simply leave him in the dust. But I have known many, many men and women who have been unable to resist 'getting even'.

    I am disturbed by all the 'Thanks' being given for sarcastic putdowns. No wonder we have so often had people with so many 'Thanks' nonetheless getting points and/or banned. Theoretically I could try officially warning everyone who did so, but it would be a lot of effort for little effect.
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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Grr. I feel the need to expound on that, because I'm not trying to start shit with other decent members here.

    1 - that post you quoted has been thanked 6 times and counting - by female members. This should tell you something.

    2 - that post is not indicative of my attitude toward WOMEN. It is indicative of my attitude towards A WOMAN, based on what she has shown herself to be (assuming she's not just a troll).

    3 - there's nothing wrong with that.

    The idea that I'm some misogynistic asshole sexist creep because I *dare* to call someone out on their OBVIOUSLY WAY OUT OF LINE behavior is asinine. By your logic, you're saying that I think Michael Vick is a piece of shit, therefore I believe all men are cruel to dogs.

    Or hell - take that a step further toward complete accuracy - you're saying that because a judge convicts a woman of murder, he hates women.

    Both assumptions are not ony incorrect, but reek of the same blanket judgement you accuse others of - and this is why the social justice movement is collapsing in on itself. "I don't judge anyone based on race, gender, or sexual orientation - but you're opinion is invalid because you're a straight, white, male". SMH

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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    DJ, by that standard you would also have to warn every female member that ever thanked another female member's post for no reason other than it represented man hating in the work context. That right there is about 30% of all the total thanks on this site.

    ^not trying to be inflammatory, just telling it like it is. If abuse of the thanks button is to be enforced, it should be enforced equally, regardless of topic or gender.

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    Judging from the kind of 'thanks' I've seen so liberally distributed in this forum for the last several years, the number of 'thanks' given, or the gender of those giving the thanks means precisely fuckin'...diddly.

    'Thanks' are to be given for 'useful posts', NOT because you agree with someone or they sarcastically shot someone down in your estimation (but not necessarily in the estimation of others).

    As for the rest of your defense, you lost me somewhere between points 2 & 3, and you are way the fuck out in left field when you bring Vick into this.

    All I am saying is that NONE OF US are in ANY position to judge the history or nature of this relationship based on 6 or 7 fucking posts in a stripper forum.

    Therefore telling the OP it's HER fault her husband (really may have gotten a handjob) is not really something anyone can say without knowing more about the situation.
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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    DJ, by that standard you would also have to warn every female member that ever thanked another female member's post for no reason other than it represented man hating in the work context. That right there is about 30% of all the total thanks on this site.

    ^not trying to be inflammatory, just telling it like it is. If abuse of the thanks button is to be enforced, it should be enforced equally, regardless of topic or gender.
    Just saw this. I agree, the 'Thanks' button is a fucking joke, as has been proven yet again by its liberal use in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    2 - that post is not indicative of my attitude toward WOMEN. It is indicative of my attitude towards A WOMAN, based on what she has shown herself to be (assuming she's not just a troll).
    THIS THIS THIS. This is not an argument about all women or all people or all rights of women or all people's reactions when they cheat. This is about one person. And we are allowed to judge people based on our own personal morality...I PERSONALLY don't think doing something shitty because someone else does something shitty is a decent way to live. In fact it's sheisty as fuck. And a lot of people agree with me (and AJ and Desu and whirlers, et al)

    Also: I also think the REAL hypocrisy here is that WE ALL ARE INVOLVED IN A BUSINESS THAT MANY MANY MANY WOMEN WOULD CONSIDER CHEATING. For you to get indignant about a man cheating on his wife, therefore giving her the permission to cheat, while we all do things that can break up relationships as well. I've seen more than a few relationships end because a man went to a strip club or called a phone sex hotline or looked at porn or cammed. Yes? Can we admit to that?

    So you're fine with making money off of all of these men, but ONE girl (troll?) comes in and you defend her like that man is a scumbag. YOUR LIVELIHOOD depends on men cheating. So really? Tell her to suck it up it's part of the business. This isn't a feminist website it's goddamn stripperweb. We make it so assholes don't pay their goddamn child support. So lets REALLY talk about hypocrites.
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    Default Re: OK, do many men cheat with sex workers?

    Can we then allow that judging other members based on a few quotes in response is just as bad? That's all I'm after here.

    The thanks button at this point gets used how it gets used - the member base has spoken. It may not be by the book, but there's a pretty level standard applied to it's use - if you like a post, you thank it. Give us a separate "like" button if you want differentiation - I've been on boards that have both.

    I have nothing against Vamp or anyone else, and I appreciate you're realizing that I'm not trying to start shit here. I'm just saying - in instances like this, people playing the "judgement" card works both ways - you can't accuse someone of judgement witout passing one of your own. Some people seem blind to this fact. I'm not one of them - I call it like I see it and stand by my assertions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintSlutface View Post
    THIS THIS THIS. This is not an argument about all women or all people or all rights of women or all people's reactions when they cheat. This is about one person. And we are allowed to judge people based on our own personal morality...I PERSONALLY don't think doing something shitty because someone else does something shitty is a decent way to live. In fact it's sheisty as fuck. And a lot of people agree with me (and AJ and Desu and whirlers, et al)
    You can agree with each other all you want, it makes no difference--we do not know what originally prompted this guy to actually go get a handjob and lie to the OP about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaintSlutface View Post
    Also: I also think the REAL hypocrisy here is that WE ALL ARE INVOLVED IN A BUSINESS THAT MANY MANY MANY WOMEN WOULD CONSIDER CHEATING. For you to get indignant about a man cheating on his wife, therefore giving her the permission to cheat, while we all do things that can break up relationships as well. I've seen more than a few relationships end because a man went to a strip club or called a phone sex hotline or looked at porn or cammed. Yes? Can we admit to that?

    So you're fine with making money off of all of these men, but ONE girl (troll?) comes in and you defend her like that man is a scumbag. YOUR LIVELIHOOD depends on men cheating. So really? Tell her to suck it up it's part of the business. This isn't a feminist website it's goddamn stripperweb. We make it so assholes don't pay their goddamn child support. So lets REALLY talk about hypocrites.
    LOL you have a point there though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    The thanks button at this point gets used how it gets used - the member base has spoken. It may not be by the book, but there's a pretty level standard applied to it's use - if you like a post, you thank it. Give us a separate "like" button if you want differentiation - I've been on boards that have both.
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    Look, none of this really matters much to me. A report was made, so I went & looked at the thread.

    I'm not condemning anyone, I'm just saying WE really DON'T FUCKING KNOW what made the guy go get a handjob & lie about it in the first place, presuming it actually happened.

    I agree, a 'Like' button might be more appropriate, but better yet the 'Thanks' button just goes. I have suggested it before and will again. I'm not trying to make a big deal out of it, but I do get tired of seeing it abused. Even if someone might be correct in a given instance, using sarcasm to make a point is not something I like seeing 'thanked'. The senior mod is in agreement with me there, last time I checked with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintSlutface View Post
    GIMME A STRIPPERWEB DISLIKE BUTTON. You can only say when something is positive, but you can't downvote comments. Once someone gets so many dislikes their shit gets booted. It'll be like SWSurvivor. It won't be on whoever the mods feel like banning that day, it will be majority rule.

    I dream of a StripperWeb democracy where all voices can be heard and voted upon.
    Many years ago we had some kind of 'karma' points or something, I forget what it was--but you could get negative points as well as positive points. It was a popularity contest clusterfuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintSlutface View Post
    THIS THIS THIS. This is not an argument about all women or all people or all rights of women or all people's reactions when they cheat. This is about one person. And we are allowed to judge people based on our own personal morality...I PERSONALLY don't think doing something shitty because someone else does something shitty is a decent way to live. In fact it's sheisty as fuck. And a lot of people agree with me (and AJ and Desu and whirlers, et al)

    Also: I also think the REAL hypocrisy here is that WE ALL ARE INVOLVED IN A BUSINESS THAT MANY MANY MANY WOMEN WOULD CONSIDER CHEATING. For you to get indignant about a man cheating on his wife, therefore giving her the permission to cheat, while we all do things that can break up relationships as well. I've seen more than a few relationships end because a man went to a strip club or called a phone sex hotline or looked at porn or cammed. Yes? Can we admit to that?

    So you're fine with making money off of all of these men, but ONE girl (troll?) comes in and you defend her like that man is a scumbag. YOUR LIVELIHOOD depends on men cheating. So really? Tell her to suck it up it's part of the business. This isn't a feminist website it's goddamn stripperweb. We make it so assholes don't pay their goddamn child support. So lets REALLY talk about hypocrites.
    this has me a bit confused. its not our business as to whether or not a man is cheating. whether or not he's single, in an open relationship, strip clubs are within the accepted limits of his relationship, or he's cheating. its not our business or problem. we aren't forcing these men to cheat. soooo sex workers can't disapprove of men for cheating on their gfs ??
    also, whether or not you got a handjob or had full sex, it really doesn't matter in terms of cheating. cheating is anything outside the parameters of the agreed terms in your relationship. whether or not somebody is touching and fiddling with your dick, or has it inside of them, its cheating..STDs and pregnancy aside, those risks were not the point. you are getting sexual pleasure from somebody else.
    and feminism is the belief that women should have the same rights as men. i would hope that most people on this board are feminists.
    and yeah the guy IS a "scumbag". not sure how cheating on a SO makes you anything but a scumbag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    ...feminism is the belief that women should have the same rights as men. i would hope that most people on this board are feminists.
    Great point. There are different views of 'feminism', but this kind of sums it up.


    The notion that a guy with a supposedly exclusive SO going into a stripclub for an hour or two of dry humping is just having a little harmless fun has always struck me as being absurd. But it's not up to the dancers to grill them first about their commitments.
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    "Feminism" and "feminists" are seldom related these days IMO.

    Sadly, that's about the same with "environmentalism" and environmentalists", and really any form of "activism" and "activist". The part that requires deep thought and consideration of consequences seems to have left the building a long, long time ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    Is anyone here going to point out to the OP that every study ever conducted confirms that women cheat more than men..?
    This is 100% false. Men cheat WAY more than women. I know you don't like me but you won't make a fool out of me.

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