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    okay, so i've made up my mind about doing 'permanent' procedures to my body, such as hair removal by electrolysis, permanent makeup, removal of moles, and tattoos...

    i want to tie my tubes..

    i'm 21, and I KNOW i will never want any kids.. i'm not good with kids, and i will never have the patience and mental stamina to deal with infants / screams / sleepless nights / expenses / dirty diapers / clutter. In my family there is a history of postpartum psychosis that lead to psychiatric hospitalization, and i'm a very cleanliness-obsessed freak, staying single by choice, and living my life carefree, to do whatever i want. I've had an IUD and it caused massive bleeding due to my uterus being small and tilted, and i had to take it out especially because i use a diva cup now and i'm in love with it ! (no more birth control pills...( i took it for 3 years and it was a horrible experience + i'm a smoker and i've inherited varicose veins and probably blood clotting when i'll be old.)

    There was a (dark) time in my life when i used to weigh 260 LBS (i'm 5'2, so that is life-threatening HUGE) .. i've lost massive amounts of weight now, and i'm still losing.. i'm a constant work in progress, both physically AND mentally.... I would never want to let a pregnancy ruin what i have achieved so far with blood, sweat and tears.

    Now that i've stated my reasons above, here's the problem.... In my country, it's against the etic medical laws to perform a voluntary sterilization to a person under 30 years old, and the approved candidate has to be at her 2nd pregnancy. This is bullshit... i've called 17 doctors throughout the country and they all said NO. Not even with a 6-month decision signing papers..NO.

    so.... does anyone know what are the medical regulations in other countries regarding this matter? and if they perform it to a candidate such as me, do i have to be a citizen of their country or something? Money is not of concern, i just want to be enlightened about the posibilities, and since i'm single (and plan of staying that way for the next 2-3 years), i will move to the US eventually and i'll perform it there, once i get my green card and Obamacare (because i read that they cover sterilization).

    Thank you in advance.

    edit: one doctor told me that he cand insert the ESSURE threads, but i've read some negative reviews about his practice facilities + i've read that many women regretted that decision because it was very painful, caused uterine perforations, and it seems just morbid.

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    AFAIK it's not illegal here (Ontario, Canada), but I suspect that most doctors probably wouldn't do it. I've heard of a 19 year-old male who got a vasectomy, though apparently he was on his fourth kid, and the doctor was nonetheless a bit reluctant.

    In general, I would guess that if you're willing to travel a bit, you'll get what you want. Let's just say that it's a lot easier to arrange than it is to arrange a green card to the U.S., so if you can manage that, you can manage this.

    Perhaps you can convince local doctors if you get them a psychologist's/psychiatrist's evaluation.

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    I honestly have no idea way the laws are regarding that in the US, but I think you will have a hard time finding a doctor willing to perform that procedure on you considering your age. I mean, I don't even know any women in their early 20s who could get a doctor to give them an IUD because most doctors here will only do that if you are older and have had kids because it can lessen the chances of getting pregnant (and I had a friend who doesn't want kids and told the doctor that and he still wouldn't do it). I guess you can always go to Mexico, though I would REALLY not recommend taking that route. Your best bet would be to call Planned Parenthood-- I would think they'd be the organization that would have the most info on something like this-- and speak to someone there. Explain your situation and see what they say, at least you'll get some info that way.

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    Thank you for your advices, girls.... you wouldn't believe what someone told me on a local forum....

    ( '' worst comes to worst, you could get pregnant on purpose to get an abortion and then tell the doctors it's your 2nd and tell them to tie your tubes'' )

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    fyi obamacare is not an actual medical plan, it's just a nickname conservatives here gave to a bill that gave the existing insurance companies more regulations. so your ability to have it covered will depend on the plan you get. half of the states opted out of Medicaid expansion which makes them exempt from many of the regulations which also complicates things. I don't know the specifics on sterilization but I would bet that many of the plans that cover it have stipulations (like being over a certain age or having a certain amount of kids already). for example all plans that fall under the new guidelines are required to cover the brca testing (it's 3k+ out of pocket) but only to women with a family history of breast cancer.

    the other thing is that the supreme court just ruled that private corporations can have religious beliefs that allow them to be exempt from essentially any law (the ruling and implications are very vague) so regardless of the obama are policies, ins companies don't have to follow them. luckily ins companies have a vested interest in providing contraception and sterilization so we're probably fine but it's still troubling.

    unfortunately most doctors here won't do it but it never hurts to search around, especially if travel $ is no issue. you may be able to get it done after a significant amount of paperwork and effort (like proving hardship based on not having it, extensive psychological screening, etc). maybe if you got genetic testing done and had a bad recessive gene you could get a doctor to do it based on not wanting to pass along that gene.

    good luck and please update! I know many of my friends and I have been frustrated that this isn't a readily available option.

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    Op, hate to say this but finding a doctor to perform one will be hard because of your age and also you not having kids. I briefly considered it and the doctors said they generally don't do it for unmarried childless people because some will change their mind. Also, to qualify for Medicaid which is what you are talking about I believe you have to live in the US for 5 years and proof of having paid taxes. It could have changed because of Obamacare. However there are some doctors who will perform it if you can find the right one.

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    Is it not an option to just use condoms? I mean obviously it'd be ideal to do something more permanent in your situation, but since that doesn't seem to be a mainstream option, why not just go the condom route? Condom + withdrawal, and you should be fine. You probably also know your cycle well enough to know when you're pre-ovulation and post-ovulation, so you can time sex to happen post-ovulation, thereby further decreasing the odds of fertilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Is it not an option to just use condoms? I mean obviously it'd be ideal to do something more permanent in your situation, but since that doesn't seem to be a mainstream option, why not just go the condom route? Condom + withdrawal, and you should be fine. You probably also know your cycle well enough to know when you're pre-ovulation and post-ovulation, so you can time sex to happen post-ovulation, thereby further decreasing the odds of fertilization.
    condoms arent nearly as effective as sterilization. http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealt...traception.htm the rhythm method is even less effective.

    not to mention latex allergies or general irritation that can make cuts in the vaginal lining which can cause major infections and make you much more vulnerable to stds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte. View Post
    condoms arent nearly as effective as sterilization. http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealt...traception.htm the rhythm method is even less effective.

    not to mention latex allergies or general irritation that can make cuts in the vaginal lining which can cause major infections and make you much more vulnerable to stds.
    I hear what you're saying. It just seems like the OP's options are limited, so I'm suggesting the next best solution: a combination of condom, rhythm, and withdrawal. The odds of becoming pregnant with all three are incredibly low.

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    ^x2 I'm super paranoid about getting an std so I don't use the pill and just condoms (guys seem to think the pill is an excuse to go bareback right off the bat these days), and I've never been pregnant, my cycle is consistent like clockwork, so I just try and avoid having sex around when I'm ovulating for extra safety...or if I do I really check that condom after for leakage. Like I said, never been pregnant, I'm 24 and I've been doing this for 5 years. If you really do your research on the female reproductive cycle, birth control is really not that big of a deal you really just need condoms. You are only fertile 3-5 days out of the month. The day before and the day of ovulation chances of conception are 50% for a healthy female. Each day away from that the chances of conception are halved. ( 25% chance 2 days before ovulation, 12.5% chance 3 days before ovulation, 6.25% chance 4 days before ovulation, 3.125# chance 5 days before ovulation, etc. And 2-3 days after ovulation your egg is not even viable anymore so you're home free for the rest of your cycle. Condoms are just a great method of birth control because they're the only one that prevents agaist stds. I'd rather get pregnant and have to get an abobo than get a shitty lifelong std.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odette View Post
    ^x2 I'm super paranoid about getting an std so I don't use the pill and just condoms (guys seem to think the pill is an excuse to go bareback right off the bat these days), and I've never been pregnant, my cycle is consistent like clockwork, so I just try and avoid having sex around when I'm ovulating for extra safety...or if I do I really check that condom after for leakage. Like I said, never been pregnant, I'm 24 and I've been doing this for 5 years. If you really do your research on the female reproductive cycle, birth control is really not that big of a deal you really just need condoms. You are only fertile 3-5 days out of the month. The day before and the day of ovulation chances of conception are 50% for a healthy female. Each day away from that the chances of conception are halved. ( 25% chance 2 days before ovulation, 12.5% chance 3 days before ovulation, 6.25% chance 4 days before ovulation, 3.125# chance 5 days before ovulation, etc. And 2-3 days after ovulation your egg is not even viable anymore so you're home free for the rest of your cycle. Condoms are just a great method of birth control because they're the only one that prevents agaist stds. I'd rather get pregnant and have to get an abobo than get a shitty lifelong std.
    I'll add that sperm can survive in the vagina for up to 9 days. So being extremely conservative on the pre-ovulation side of things is very important.

    Also, you get extra credit for the use of "abobo." Fabulous!

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    Thank you for all the advices given, guys.. you are the best !

    i will keep calling doctors just to see who is able to perform it, perhaps maybe call some psychologists to ask if they have had such a case and how did they deal with it..

    Someone told me that there are some underground doctors who don't ask any questions, and they are the ones who usually perform ''illegal'' abortions ( to underaged girls with no parental consent, or a very advanced pregnancy ), if i find one like that who is certified, i'll go for it. I'm still afraid though.... the medical system in romania is very veeery fucked up and poor.. a lot of crooked doctors perform awful procedures on patients.... i saw on the news that a woman died because of an abdominal liposuction and in the autopsy they discovered around 40 punctures in her intestine which caused septicemy.... and let's not mention a fucked-up dentist who used to sterylize her tools with DISH SOAP, and implant dog teeth into the patient.

    I'll keep you posted if i make any progress... and i'll also look up other European union countries (my passport expired in february and i can only traved to EU countries by ID card).

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    I know this will be an unpopular perspective - this is a bit of devil's advocacy.

    I've been amazed by how drastically my views on children have changed even from the time I was 20 to where I am now at 25. When I was 20, I thought children were demons and couldn't imagine ever having one. While I still can hardly stand other people's children, I'm starting to see how in five years or so, I might want a child of my own (especially in my current relationship). I still don't want a child, but I can see how I might further down the road. I'm not saying this is true for you. It is possible, though unlikely, that in the right circumstances, and with the changing hormones that come with age, your opinion might sway.

    I hear that you've thought about this extensively and don't want to undermine or patronize you.

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    Thank you for your perspective, Charlie... all my friends keep saying that, and my old-fashioned parents are starting to pressure me about grandkids at my age! lol..... i wanted to convince my ex to have a vasectomy, but he either chickened out on it by saying he would feel less of a man if he's do that.

    I really don't know how my hormones would change in the far future, but i've have had a relationship with myself for 21 years so far, and I know what a stubborn, selfish, and intolerant girl I am. I always wanted a dog, but never really wished to get one because of fur shedding, taking it for walks and stuff ( i love animals, that's why i chose caged ones - chinchilla and canary)... i've never regretted any decision i made so far ( from piercings tattoos, to underage document tampering to attend artschool admission because my parents were strongly against)... and none of them bit me in the ass afterwards, because i have religiously balanced the pros and cons in every decision ... i hope all of this i'm saying right now, would eventually convince a psychologist / obgyn to give me the green line to sterilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    I know this will be an unpopular perspective - this is a bit of devil's advocacy.

    I've been amazed by how drastically my views on children have changed even from the time I was 20 to where I am now at 25. When I was 20, I thought children were demons and couldn't imagine ever having one. While I still can hardly stand other people's children, I'm starting to see how in five years or so, I might want a child of my own (especially in my current relationship). I still don't want a child, but I can see how I might further down the road. I'm not saying this is true for you. It is possible, though unlikely, that in the right circumstances, and with the changing hormones that come with age, your opinion might sway.

    I hear that you've thought about this extensively and don't want to undermine or patronize you.
    I don't disagree with this at all and don't disagree too much with the current medical standards regarding early sterilization however, to play devils advocate to your devils advocate, I'd love to be sterilized and then when I decide to have a kid do ivf using my eggs (they're still there), which will give me the ability to do genetic testing and make sure I don't pass along a bad gene.

    sterilization specific, I'd love for there to be a comprehensive map of countries that sterilize safely, colored by age regulations (just as there are similar maps for abortion). if I lived in a country that had unsafe abortions, high instances of rape, or just terrible birth and child care, I'd spend every penny I have to get myself to the nearest reputable doctor. it's so sad that in countries like the US (well, about half of our states) we have so many safe options yet in other countries reproductive health care is so.limited that women regularly put sand or rocks in their uterus as a makeshift iud. makes me so sad

    op, I just remembered there's a new smaller iud called skyla, maybe you should look into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte. View Post
    sterilization specific, I'd love for there to be a comprehensive map of countries that sterilize safely, colored by age regulations (just as there are similar maps for abortion). if I lived in a country that had unsafe abortions, high instances of rape, or just terrible birth and child care, I'd spend every penny I have to get myself to the nearest reputable doctor. it's so sad that in countries like the US (well, about half of our states) we have so many safe options yet in other countries reproductive health care is so.limited that women regularly put sand or rocks in their uterus as a makeshift iud. makes me so sad
    I read something the other day that was like "if men could get pregnant, you'd be able to get an abortion at an ATM." The same holds true for so many "women's health issues." There are so few good options for birth control; it's depressing.

    Of course, women in other countries have it far worse. But it still blows my mind that in 2014, women are basically forced to decide between Side Effects Group A vs. Side Effects Group B instead of having palatable options available to both women and men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte. View Post
    I don't disagree with this at all and don't disagree too much with the current medical standards regarding early sterilization however, to play devils advocate to your devils advocate, I'd love to be sterilized and then when I decide to have a kid do ivf using my eggs (they're still there), which will give me the ability to do genetic testing and make sure I don't pass along a bad gene.

    sterilization specific, I'd love for there to be a comprehensive map of countries that sterilize safely, colored by age regulations (just as there are similar maps for abortion). if I lived in a country that had unsafe abortions, high instances of rape, or just terrible birth and child care, I'd spend every penny I have to get myself to the nearest reputable doctor. it's so sad that in countries like the US (well, about half of our states) we have so many safe options yet in other countries reproductive health care is so.limited that women regularly put sand or rocks in their uterus as a makeshift iud. makes me so sad

    op, I just remembered there's a new smaller iud called skyla, maybe you should look into that.
    Sadly, even being the US doesn't guarantee birth control. If one has the misfortune to be in a state with horrible laws it affects their choice. Luckily I live in Illinois which is a progressive state but it wouldn't be so great if I lived in Mississippi which has the worst laws.

    I vaguely remember hearing about a new method that is semi permanent, anyone know about this?

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    i think the semi-permanent method you are reffering to is Essure.. i've read about it and one of the doctors was up for it, but it is still considered permanent... the procedure takes about 20 minutes, and it's basically like inserting a IUD.... the doc inserta a metal spiral in each tube, and supposedly, scarr tissue would develop around them and clog the tubes permanently... erin brokowich is a militant against this method, because many women accused perforations of the uterus, and severe pain. I've had my fair share of foreign metal objects (copper and silver after ) inside me, and it didn't work out in my favour.

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    Could you try going to Thailand?

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    First, don't take comments from an old man as just 'oh you are so young' but I do think there is a possibility you may change your mind. I think I would advise against making somewhat irreversible decisions for a few years. Not forever, but just a few years until you get a better feel for what your life is like. While you likely will not change in 'who you are' I think there is a pretty steep learning curve at this time in your life, and the pretty safe pretty effective birth control methods mean you have options

    Please Please Please don't get hacked by some underground clinic

    WTF with the laws and doctors. A guy can get snipped on any given tuesday AFAIK

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldster View Post
    WTF with the laws and doctors. A guy can get snipped on any given tuesday AFAIK
    You're probably right about there being a double standard. Nice to have a man point it out for a change!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    Sadly, even being the US doesn't guarantee birth control. If one has the misfortune to be in a state with horrible laws it affects their choice. Luckily I live in Illinois which is a progressive state but it wouldn't be so great if I lived in Mississippi which has the worst laws.

    I vaguely remember hearing about a new method that is semi permanent, anyone know about this?
    yeah I know, it's sad but at least the options still exist here, even if they're limited in many areas.

    iuds and that arm implant are semi permanent, is that what your talking about? all forms of female sterilization could possibly be reversed through intense and unreliable surgeries but I wouldn't call that semi permanent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    Sadly, even being the US doesn't guarantee birth control. If one has the misfortune to be in a state with horrible laws it affects their choice. Luckily I live in Illinois which is a progressive state but it wouldn't be so great if I lived in Mississippi which has the worst laws.

    I vaguely remember hearing about a new method that is semi permanent, anyone know about this?
    I'll never understand these ridiculous Bible-belt states that stop women from getting birth control and sexual health services... if they're so against abortion, why put women in a position where it's going to become SO much more likely that they will need one? One of my friends moved to Arizona when we were in high school and she got an STD from a guy she was dating but her parents were super religious and she didn't want them to know she was having sex, so she went to Planned Parenthood to get tested, but they said they wouldn't even treat her unless they had her parent's permission. She walked around with the the clap for like 2 months before begging another friend of mine's mom, who was very cool and like a second mom to all of us, to pay for her to fly back to CA so she could go and get treated.... ugh, I just don't understand that at all and never will.

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    WTF with the laws and doctors. A guy can get snipped on any given tuesday AFAIK
    I think it's two things, a) society's still current view that women are put on this Earth to procreate and have children, should be maternal and mothering, blah blah... a 21 year old woman deciding to tie her tubes goes against everything we want to believe as a culture... I mean, what purpose does a barren woman really serve? (*sarcasm*)
    And also, it's SO much easier for a man to have the procedure reversed, whereas it's not the same for women. I know the procedure is much simpler and can be reversed simply as well, for a woman there are a lot more risks and I don't think it's reversible?

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    I looked into this around your age. (US based, SoCal specifically) - I'm 31 now. I found in the early 20s, most doctors would not do the procedure til 25, some even 27.

    I still plan to do this someday, yet now it is not my priority.

    (I feel you, girl. At 12 I didn't want kids. Same at 16, same at 18, same at 21, 25, 27, and 30. And everyone swears I'll change my mind. NOPE. I know that is the general opinion above.......that you'll change your mind too......I wish this wasn't the default comment or thought process for most people, but.......they aren't you, you make your own choices.)
    If I find any more info, I'll def share it.
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    ^I hope it didn't come across like I was telling her she'd definitely change her mind. Some people's minds never change, and that's perfectly okay! But some people's minds do change, so it may be best to err on the safe side.

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