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    Default How Deeply do you get into you're persona

    I find the whole persona thing facinating and what it says about identity.

    Like is it just a mechnanical external thing?

    Or is there mental compentent?

    Are you a totally different person at your club, not just in actions, but head space?

    Does your "real" lif identity and club persona bleed into each other?

    Do you ever find your club pereona becoming less of a facet of your personality, and more of a idntity in her own right

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    Default Re: How Deeply do you get into you're persona

    The important thing with personas (at least in my experience)is to keep it to the club or when ever someone is working as that persona (such as parties, etc). To many dancers carry it into their real life which is not a good thing. Anyway, I kept mine sort of deep, such as inventing names, locations but not other things. I wanted to make sure I didn't make up something I couldn't remember.

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    The way I am in everyday life and the way I am at work is totally different . Since I've been doing this so long I often wonder if I have developed a personality disorder or a legit split personality.
    At work I am totally glammed up and sexy. I am so flirty, charming, persuasive, the whole 9 yards. I'm not bragging, but I know I'm very good at what I do.

    The second I leave the club my hair is in a ponytail and I have no use for anyone most of the time. I dress well, but I don't try to look "sexy", and hell would freeze over before I acted flirtatious or cute in real life. I don't dislike people per se, I just feel like I don't need anyone. If for some reason, I need to bring out my club persona for my own personal benefit, I will. (Getting out of a speeding ticket, etc.)

    I know perhaps this isn't the mentally healthiest way of life, but it's ME. It's what I've become I guess....

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    Default Re: How Deeply do you get into you're persona

    I don't think its unhealthy at all. We all have different facets to our personality. Its natural.

    I believe identity is a construct of the unconious mind, which really makes the decisions. As such if the unconious mind choses it can create other personalities, which maybe seperate or connected to the baseline identity. Just a personal theory.

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    I'm a totally different person at work than I am when not working. Even when I'm in the dressing room, talking to other girls, I'm a totally different person than when I'm speaking to customers-- as soon as I sit down I just turn it on. But I don't go so far into it that listening to myself sometimes makes me want to laugh. 99% of the customers that I deal with LOVE fake, I will never understand it but whatever, it makes me money. And it's one of the things I like about my job. It can serve as an escape if I'm having a shitty date/week, going through a rough time. I slip into my work persona and for those 8 hours I'm someone else.

    I do think I've changed from dancing but in positive ways. I was very insecure and shy before I danced, I'm not that way anymore. It's made me much more comfortable meeting/talking to new people and more confident about the way I look and my ability to attract men/friends/etc. I've probably become more flirty since I started dancing, but I think that's just because I'm more confident.

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    Default Re: How Deeply do you get into you're persona

    http://psychcentral.com/lib/dispelli...rder/0009785/2

    As long as you don't experience memory black out when in your persona you should be fine.

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    As far deep until I can get into your wallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaphallic View Post
    http://psychcentral.com/lib/dispelli...rder/0009785/2

    As long as you don't experience memory black out when in your persona you should be fine.
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    Default Re: How Deeply do you get into you're persona

    i'm the same at work as i am out of work ( i just make myself 100% more flirtatious, and a little dumber sounding, depending on the customer). its waaayy too much work for me to make up another a second personality and stay in character all night, and it just comes off as fake ( for me). i'm naturally kind of ditzy and flirty so i just i just go with that

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    Default Re: How Deeply do you get into you're persona

    Totally different and 100% of what I tell you is a lie.

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    I'm pretty much the same. Just nakeder, and with lipstick on.

    There was a period of time when I thought of my stripper self as my 'alter-ego' due to the fact that I smoked and drank at work and didn't do that in my otc-life. But after I quit drinking and ditched cigarettes, there wasn't really anything that differentiated my ITC self from my otc self.

    A friend and I went through a phase where we pretended we were from a fabricated country and spoke in ridiculous accents at work, and I found it so much easier to hustle during that phase. So I can see why dancers develop club personas.

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    Default Re: How Deeply do you get into you're persona

    I've always had a bit of a problem with multiple dimensions to my personality -- ever since childhood I've easily "molded" myself to whatever peer group I was around (I'm really good with impressions and mimicking body language/accents) -- this trait confused those closest to me as they felt I was unpredictable and flaky. Dancing actually really helped me because now I'm able to transfer this ability more potently into the club, and has actually made my OTC personality more grounded. It's like I was always scattered everywhere, but now that I have actual "roles" to fulfill, I feel more self-assured in my expressions of them.
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    For me, it's automatic as soon as I get on the floor, but it's a conscious thing. Choosing what not to communicate both verbally and nonverbally or censorship is a big part of our "personas" IMO. Additionally, it's somewhat like "acting" in the way that we have "lines" or automatic responses and have chosen a certain "costume", way of speaking, gestures and posture to portray a "persona" (but these are developed through trial and error lol). A salesman is overly friendly and well dressed because it's part of his/her job and leads to financial success-we too have a "uniform" and behavioural codes that equal success.
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    Depends on which one wants to come out that day.
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    I don't think it says shit about identity.

    This is a sales job. When I was younger, I sold carpet. I was an angsty teenager who pretty much hated the world but when I went to work I put on a squeaky clean "All American teenager" act and told stupid jokes that made my customers laugh.

    That's what sales is. If you can make the customer like you, they'll buy more from you. It's a pretty basic concept.

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    My personality changes depending on the customer I'm speaking with. My natural or real personality is completely different then my personas in the club.

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    My persona is a lot more curt and pushy with people than would I be outside of work. I'm still nice, friendly, flirty, well made up, cordial, but I'm just focused on the sale I guess. Outside of work that's not my focus…obviously, so I act more my 'true' self, which is probably a bit of a push over sometimes, though since dancing I'm more assertive, well i'd like to think so. It's made me slightly more reclusive, but yet much more able to talk to strangers when necessary without getting crippling anxiety, so that's a real positive.


    I have a complete false history to me which is not at all true in the slightest, but suits me well and I can use real life experiences and knowledge to cement my dancer identity well, if ever questioned. I have a different age, birthday, ethnicity, personal history, future plans, my interests are vague etc etc etc. Sometimes I tell part truths and sometimes full truths, but that's a rarity these days.

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    There's an old salesman's adage: Dance according to the music played. Basically, it means become your customer's ideal friend and companion and they will reward you with their business. My persona with one customer may be totally different with another. I see it like being an actress taking on different roles. I'm still me, but I am meeting the customer where he is most comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaphallic View Post
    I don't think its unhealthy at all. We all have different facets to our personality. Its natural.
    That's completely true. People act one way with their parents, one way with their friends, one way in the workplace, and another way when out for casual fun.

    That being said, creating a fake back story and lying to people consistently can be unhealthy if it becomes a habit. When I go to the club, I use the same fake name with dancers every time. I also fudge a few personal details, like what I do for a living. It's close enough to the truth that I won't slip up (I mean, saying you're a doctor when you know nothing about biology is kinda stupid), but still enough to protect my identity. But I try to limit what I make up, because even though it's relatively harmless in this case, lying is a slippery slope.

    It makes things difficult on those very rare occasions when you get to know the dancer on an OTC basis! You either have to continue the charade or admit your white lies.

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