Checking in again.. been on my mineral protocol for a month... doing a parasite cleanse for the last 3 weeks.. still feel like crap all the time





Checking in again.. been on my mineral protocol for a month... doing a parasite cleanse for the last 3 weeks.. still feel like crap all the time





I cracked a back, bottom tooth when I bit into a really hard potato chip, and a small piece of my tooth broke off.
The sharp edge of the tooth scrapped my tongue, and made it hard to eat/swallow. I got a fever and made an emergency dentist appt yesterday.
It's a new dentist in the new town I'm living in.
Dentist filed The sharp edge down, gave me antibiotics and ibuprofen......BUT insisted that I need to have the tooth pulled. Huh?
My tooth seems fine. No pain, has a filling already in it.
I'm taking my xrays to another dentist for a second opinion.
Has anyone had anything like this happen?
And does anyone take any supplements for healthy gums, bone?
Vitamin D is important for healthy bones, and it's a common deficiency especially amongst people who work indoors. Soups made from a bone broth base are good for bones, connective tissue and skin.





I'm in Australia, and despite everyone getting skin cancers from sun exposure, we also have an epidemic of Vit D deficiency, it seems to be nearly impossible to keep it up naturally these days.
I should have also mention Oil Pulling. After brushing your teeth, take a small tea spoon of coconut oil, let it dissolve in your mouth and spend the next 15 minutes pushing it back and forth through your teeth and around your mouth with your tongue. Then spit it out and rinse. It cleans all the sticky bacteria off your teeth and gums and helps heal gum disease. Your mouth will feel amazing and it keeps your lips soft too.
After 5 years of chronic backpain I am close to getting a "real" diagnose (in stead of the diagnose "aspecific chronic backpain")
my chiropractor unofficially diagnosed me with joint hypermobility syndrome (ive scored myself with the beighton 9-point scoring system, and rank very high on hypermobility).. Going to viist an reumotologist the 16th for an official diagnose
I felt the urge to write about it in the hope i can help someone else, esp since the syndrome is not well known... Ive been visiting my own doctor a lot of times over the years and he never mentioned this syndrome; never thought about it.
The hardest process for me is accepting the pain and accepting the fact I cannot do/work as much and as long as someone else (accepting i cant do a lot of things others can.. like dancing, running, intens sports, sitting for long periods at a time, without facing a lot of pain afterwards). It sucks to see eveyrone else around you building up their life, having fun, goin gon vacation etc while I can barely work atm and have to force myself to even move because I feel pain right now constantly.. Esp a lot of pain when sleeping and when I am just awake
Its tirering not only my body but also my mind, because I have to deal with my anger and feelings of hopelessness
You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff





^^^ I am sorry for the way u feel Ivy cause i feel the same here, i feel disabled simply, it's just terrible, it's also depressing.
On the MRI it shows i have four herniated disks, two on the lower back and two at the middle spine PLUS arthritis on my spine bones, these all gives me pain same like u say, all the damn time when awake. I avoid surgery here but my life is difficult cause of the pain, i cant do much either.
I'll read about the syndrome u mentioned, see what it says on the internet, ty for posting this, wish u the best there xxx





Same as what KatM has also.
Thanks for sharing the diagnosis. I'm also going to look it up online.
My insurance doesn't kick in until next month, so I'm making a list of things to ask the new Dr. Who specializes in pain management.
The only thing that helps me not beat myself up about how bad I feel about being tired from the pain, are the 2 other roommates I live with. (But it bugs me that they don't work because of it, and here I am plugging away).. I must look into disability, because everyone I know out here in this country town is on it.
No I havent really (I did very briefly in the past for my never ending fatigue)
I do drink a lot of milk though- around 1,5 liter a day and eat a lot of dairy products(because i dont eat a lot of meat i try to compensate drinking milk, eating cheese and beans)
I dont have a problems with my bones though or with my muscles; the problrms lies in the ligaments (the tough bands of connective tissue that link two bones together at a joint) - it is fragile/to loose and cannot support the joint correcty (wich causes overstreching and unstableness)
Do you think it will help?
Thanks for your input!
You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff
In my country they dont cover anything related to reuma, because the costs became to high. It sucks
I hope the specialist will be able to help you and the pain gets more manageable Hugs!
I can barely motivate myself to work, proud of you that you can- esp with your roommates!!
Last edited by IvyRose; 06-10-2016 at 11:25 AM.
You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff
Hugs Kat!
It sucks to ahve pain and you know there is no solution..
Even if i get my diagnose there are no medication available and I know i will have this syndrom for the rest of my life. I did find a physiotherapist though who is specialised in joint hypermobility and pelvic instability ( i also have pelvis instability and a slight scolyose which arent rare when you have hypermobility syndrom), its my only option for getting the correct excercises to strengthen my body.
Did you ever try out a chiropractor Kat? I have a gf and dhe has a neckhernia which cannot be operated because it would be to much of a risk. She says her quality of life is so much better bec of the chiropractor. I also went to the chiropracvtor a lot when my pelvis was out of place again, he could help me in 1 session (only problem for me is that my pelvis stays unstable, so its only a matter of time before its out of place again, pressing against nerves and muscles)
I hope you will find something that helps manage the pain
HUGS
Last edited by IvyRose; 06-10-2016 at 11:59 AM.
You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff
BTW when looking into joint hypermobility dont be fooled by the bendyness of the pictures you will see;
take a look at the symptoms and how it develops itself from baby to adult...
Two chiropractors had to call me hypermobile when I looked beyond the first pictures..
I saw a lot of highly bendable people, and I thought to myself "i can never have that, that chiropractor must be crazy". Because my back is my main problem and I can barely bend it at all
What happens is that over time the muscles can become really tight because ligaments are to fragile/loose... and may cause extreme stiffness instead of being extra mobile
You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff
Thanks! will look into it and see how I can get enough of it by eating the right things (luckily I also eat a banana every day and nuts which also holds magnesium =)... so i am a bit on my way)
I dont like taking supplements though because when I take a supplement pill and my body has enough% because of the pill it will not take in any magnesium anymore from food (dont know if I explained it well enough- english is not my native language)
Last edited by IvyRose; 06-10-2016 at 12:32 PM.
You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff



Hello Ivy,
I have this too, and I can completely relate. It's hard to get used to the reality of living with this in a world that has very little awareness of what living with this kind of hyper-mobility is like. But it is possible. What we do makes it so much easier - for the first time in my adult life, I never have to worry about losing my job because of hms/eds health issues. I can work around them, and still have energy for the things I enjoy doing.
If it is okay with you, I'd like to PM you with what has worked for me. Hugs to you lady, I hope you're having a good day today ~
"Another fun and exciting evening tormenting the souls of men."
Stolen from a reg."I've learned that you can't expect anyone to treat you how you want to be treated. What you can do is CHOOSE! You get to choose if you want to tolerate, engage or have them in your life or not. When you have options, you have peace and power."
-the Goddess Marina Starr





I have a lot on my plate right now Ivy but i'll take more care of my health when my time/ finances will allow me, being sick is not easy cause u cant do/work that much so u dont get enough income especially if u single and u have nobody to look after you, i am doing my best but there we can only do what situation allows us to.
In my case the docs suspect i have a genetic condition/syndrome too but is not confirmed cause the genetic tests are too expensive for me here, all i know is it fucked up my whole body since i was born and in time is getting more & more difficult to deal with all the issues that come from it but it is what it is.
Healthy people dont really understand what it means NOT to be healthy, some will call us lazy or so but again, not their fault for being not aware, it's just better for them to not know actually.
Been a shock for me to find out about my condition but not a surprise as i always knew my health was never the best, i just did now know why.
Anyway, all i can do is carry on and thank God/ the Universe it's not worse, if i am still alive and able to walk (still), move and think then i am all good, if i can work as little as i can then it's all good, if i can still function then i am good.
Good luck there urself with all Ivy, hugs xxx

Sending love n healing vibes to you ladies *hugs*
I think the exact same way. Esp when I feel getting in a depression or anger bec of the syndrome I remind myself there are so many people who have more pain than I have right now, and I should be thankfull for being able to function even if its a small part of the day. A lot of people arent able to even walk so I shoudnt complain.
I have been called lazy SO many times, its really hurtfull. Thats why a diagnose right now is helping me, because I have been in denial for a long time, trying to pretend i am healthy crossing to many lines and making myself even sicker by not respecting my boundaries and limits.
Your right, people without chronic pain will never understand fully what its like, they cannot feel how we feel, they cannot help it.
I am proud of you that you are still able to support yourself through all of your pain, while not having a partner. That must be really hard.
Hugs and best wishes!
You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff
Gingercamgirl, I would love to hear about what worked for you, looking forward to your pm =)
I too am very gratefull for this job, luckily I starting camming early (right after getting my bachelor) so I was never forced into a "real schedule", it would have been impossible and I know I would have disrespected my boundaries.
I have been doing that while camming too, only with camming you can do that a limited time before you cannot work at all anymore because of the physical aspect of camming. It made me realise my boundaries
Bodywise I am not having a good day, but I am thankfull to have this forum and you girls around me. Gives me more strength. I am glad I shared it here.
I am managing to stay relatively calm today (instead of stressing out bec of finances, and the not knowing of how tomorrow will be) so thats a great goal to accomplish
You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people get what they want - Zig Ziglar
"Be thankful for the troubles of your job. They provide about half your income Robert R. Updegraff





Can I tell you something? I have been sick for the last 4 years of camming.. so sick hardly working even 3 hours some days.... some days better than others.. I hired someone to run a Hair mineral analysis on me.. started doing intermittent fasting, taking my minerals he prescribed to me.. did a 30 day parasite cleanse.. 1 liver flush.. feeling great now.. not the best but getting better and I lost 7 pounds since the beginning of May.. and you want to know the greatest part of all of getting healthy? My income ROSE over 50% more than I was making.. Getting healthy is what you need to do now.. not later when finances and time allow.. Please do not get offended by me saying this.. take it one step at a time as finances allow.. try a parasite cleanse.. hire someone to help balance your body.. do a liver flush ( simple and VERY cheap to do )... do something!... then you will start feeling great and making more money on cam you ever thought possible.. I KNEW that this was the key to doing better on cam.. if I wasn't so achy and tired and having short of breath.. these are some of the things I have been dealing with for over 4 yrs.. depressed, moody, anger, anxiety.. raging.. just a terrible attitude I could not control.. Take the time to take care of yourself and the money will follow on cam.. I am in serious AMAZEMENT at how well I am doing.. granted I got a new computer and all.. but I was NOT doing this good on cam til beginning of MAY when I started really digging deep on my health.. the fasting and parasite cleanse really catapulted me.. to feeling just awesome.








I sit in a comfortable office chair, and I have to take a break and walk around every 25 minutes or so, personally. I've been using the Pomodoro timers that someone else suggested in another thread. Otherwise my hips (and everything else) just start sliding out of joint![]()
"Another fun and exciting evening tormenting the souls of men."
Stolen from a reg."I've learned that you can't expect anyone to treat you how you want to be treated. What you can do is CHOOSE! You get to choose if you want to tolerate, engage or have them in your life or not. When you have options, you have peace and power."
-the Goddess Marina Starr



Depression's really taken a leap up this past week. Meh meh mehhh. I don't know how to snap out of it. Every low-earning hour on SM hits me like a brick to the nuts. Haven't even been online much. I feel the self-destructiveness enveloping my mind. Snap out of it! Gogogogogo
Just need to remember that nice things DO happen on cam. You gotta be there for them to happen.





^^^ Yes, i feel depressed myself cause of how SM is working lately for me, cant help it sometimes to feel down but then i somehow manage to regroup and get on cam, u just never know what a new shift can bring u, we just have to keep going. xx and all the best
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