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    I'm so sorry but I had to delete a few post from this thread. You are not allowed to create accounts and then ask people for money. Panhandling is against the rules. Its very early right now so I have to keep it short. I may come back to elaborate more at a later time.


    8. Do NOT Panhandle
    Do not use our site to ask for handouts, donations, gifts, etc. Remember, SW is intended to be a place for support and advice, not another place to work your hustle. Gift exchanges are allowed, but should be managed off site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    I read up on this.ouch!
    Question: How do you sit/stand while you are camming ?
    Back/ spine problems are just part of my day, and even sitting in certain positions causes my muscles to ache.
    Thanks in advance.
    Sorry Glam, didnt saw your post untill now
    I just did the best I could but could only work 2 to 4 houres a day a couple of days a week bec of the pain. When I went lucky and had a week without much pain most I worked was around 12 houres I think
    So my houres where really really low (my online houres for the month where around 28h a month)

    Standing is not a big problem for me, so I tend to strech and stand up from my chaise lounge
    I also use this chaise lounge for camming (pic included in post) because I can sit on it and place my feet both at a side from the bed without troubles )also I can use pressure on my feet and stand up halfway to relief my back )sitting is sometimes very uncomfortable for me.. this is very helpful esp when doing riding shows, or sittingposition in freechat). makes it easier for me to sit and work because I coudnt sit on a bed with my feet on the bed itself/ that would have killed my back in 1 minute. Also I tend to sit on my kness at least 80% of the time spend sitting in freechat, I dont know why but it helps my back to not hurt.
    I try to change up positions a lot when in free chat I walk around a bit and stand up a lot

    One of the reason I keep my prices as high as they are is because I dont mind standing around in freechat to wait for big spenders to come along, I cant handle a load of short shows or more than 70% paid chat. So I make sure that when my % in paid chat gets to high I give myself a raise which also helps for increasing my income

    AFter camming I use a hittepit pillow which you can tie around your back to ease the pain )warmth helps me a lot'. I also try to go to bikram yoga (in a warm room) for my back and go to swimming classes fr people with reuma which is held in warm water and low pressure excersices (like tai chi in water)

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    ^^^Thanks for taking the time to get back to me on that. I appreciate it.
    Went to see the Doctor Friday, because the pain has increased to the point of being unbearable.
    Doctor prescribed a permanent handicap placard for my car, because walking has now become too painful.
    I also keep a pillow in my car in case of uncomfortable seats I may encounter when I go places.
    Along with meds, dr suggested taking magnesium and riboflavin.
    I really think I did so much damage to my spine, when I used to cam for 9, or more hours every day.
    Now, I'm lucky if I can get through 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    I'm so sorry but I had to delete a few post from this thread. You are not allowed to create accounts and then ask people for money. Panhandling is against the rules. Its very early right now so I have to keep it short. I may come back to elaborate more at a later time.


    8. Do NOT Panhandle
    Do not use our site to ask for handouts, donations, gifts, etc. Remember, SW is intended to be a place for support and advice, not another place to work your hustle. Gift exchanges are allowed, but should be managed off site.
    GM PhatGirl! I just wanted to start off by saying,ive been up here a while, and now that the panhandle rule was brought to my attention. I will admit I honestly forgot about it. Now what she exactly put in her post i dont know, but i wrote the post as i did to try to help. I didn't look at it as panhandling and especially not as a hustle. She didn't even know about the site until I told her about the site,as someone did me. Ive seen many threads,truthfully cant name them all because i haven't read every single thread up here,but i have seen threads where girls were trying to get away from abusive situations, losing their homes,etc and other women up here offered support,emotional,financial,up to and even their own homes for them to stay at. So I told her about the site to reach out for help. I just found it sad that my thread was deleted & i wasn't even notified,yet a thread flagged for the same reason,from MONTHS ago is still up. Now should she have approached it better? Maybe. I dont expect anyone to bend the rules for anyone, but wow, whoever decided to go through the process of notifying you, maybe could have notified her to change her thread,delete it herself, like I have seen being done to other girls.This is not to you personally PHATGirl,none of this is,but whoever is reading this besides you I hope you never find yourself in this situation,because now you know if you didn't, there are those who instead of telling you how you could better your post, thread,or situation,they would rather report you. The sad thing is many of the camgirls here know of each other, and Im sure somebody here knew her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    I'm so sorry but I had to delete a few post from this thread. You are not allowed to create accounts and then ask people for money. Panhandling is against the rules. Its very early right now so I have to keep it short. I may come back to elaborate more at a later time.


    8. Do NOT Panhandle
    Do not use our site to ask for handouts, donations, gifts, etc. Remember, SW is intended to be a place for support and advice, not another place to work your hustle. Gift exchanges are allowed, but should be managed off site.
    I would like to apologize if my post offended or broke some kind of rule. But, I never panhandled. And I would suggest (not being sarcastic). Reading what panhandling means. I was advertising sales that I had for content. I wasn't asking for anything for free. I NEVER asked that. And I will leave it at that. I was directed to use this as a venue for that. Because of my situation I was in need to make the money faster. MAKE the money not hold a cup out and ask for freebies. If I put it in the wrong place I'm sorry for that. I was just trying different places to advertise for those specials. I even linked the special.
    *And I won't even get into the comment about "hustling"...
    So again I apologize if I placed it in the wrong place. I won't make that mistake again. And I never even knew about this site until a friend offered it up as a way to advertise due to my situation. And a suggestion (again not being sarcastic). When modding (whether it be an actual mod, or a perosn trying to "look out" for the site, it's nice to send a msg instead of a blanket statement or report button happy. If you, you being the person that reported the post, and you being the person that deleted the post. If you actually read it, you wouldn't have used terms like "panhandle" or "hustle". I hope you have a nice day, and thanks for the support and help. Take care

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    I was just going to suggest you take magnesium... make sure you take a calcium/mag combo and maybe a lil extra mag on the side. Too much mag also tanks potassium so you'll need to make sure you are getting enough of that as well. . I am getting a lot better with my health condition.. look into hiring a knowledgeable mineral practitioner that reads HTMA ( hair tissue mineral analysis) you will not be sorry).. or you can pm for the one I use . . he is in Canada does his consults over Skype..

    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    ^^^Thanks for taking the time to get back to me on that. I appreciate it.
    Went to see the Doctor Friday, because the pain has increased to the point of being unbearable.
    Doctor prescribed a permanent handicap placard for my car, because walking has now become too painful.
    I also keep a pillow in my car in case of uncomfortable seats I may encounter when I go places.
    Along with meds, dr suggested taking magnesium and riboflavin.
    I really think I did so much damage to my spine, when I used to cam for 9, or more hours every day.
    Now, I'm lucky if I can get through 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CocoaCaramelBBW View Post
    GM PhatGirl! I just wanted to start off by saying,ive been up here a while, and now that the panhandle rule was brought to my attention. I will admit I honestly forgot about it. Now what she exactly put in her post i dont know, but i wrote the post as i did to try to help. I didn't look at it as panhandling and especially not as a hustle. She didn't even know about the site until I told her about the site,as someone did me. Ive seen many threads,truthfully cant name them all because i haven't read every single thread up here,but i have seen threads where girls were trying to get away from abusive situations, losing their homes,etc and other women up here offered support,emotional,financial,up to and even their own homes for them to stay at. So I told her about the site to reach out for help. I just found it sad that my thread was deleted & i wasn't even notified,yet a thread flagged for the same reason,from MONTHS ago is still up. Now should she have approached it better? Maybe. I dont expect anyone to bend the rules for anyone, but wow, whoever decided to go through the process of notifying you, maybe could have notified her to change her thread,delete it herself, like I have seen being done to other girls.This is not to you personally PHATGirl,none of this is,but whoever is reading this besides you I hope you never find yourself in this situation,because now you know if you didn't, there are those who instead of telling you how you could better your post, thread,or situation,they would rather report you. The sad thing is many of the camgirls here know of each other, and Im sure somebody here knew her.

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    The difference in the way that thread was handled vs this one is...I was not a mod then. Loveshooks who I respect immensely made the decision to lock it instead of deleting it in its entirety. I also believe that her reasoning behind it was because of all the valuable advice given in that thread. Maybe she left it so that anyone else who comes along can get some idea about local resources etc? The reason I deleted the two post in this thread is because its Panhandling and now I am a mod. I may do things differently. Also I have no idea who she is. Ive never seen her post on SW or give any sort of support to others. And because of that she very well may have been working a hustle for all I know? I can't be sure. But its a good thing that rule no. 8 on SW is no panhandling. This way we the mods dont have to read too much into the issue. I don't have to wreck my brain regarding motive. It's just simply not allowed. Im really sorry that she's struggling and I trust you will do what you can to help your friend. Hopefully when she gets her head above water, she'll come back and make a proper post introducing herself with a clean slate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    ^^^Thanks for taking the time to get back to me on that. I appreciate it.
    Went to see the Doctor Friday, because the pain has increased to the point of being unbearable.
    Doctor prescribed a permanent handicap placard for my car, because walking has now become too painful.
    .
    So sorry you have to go through so much pain
    as for medicati8on; i am now on 1000 mg naproxen, and it does wonders against my pain. I can lift grocery bags again and work.. just wanted to elt you know, dont know on which kinda meds you are on (if any)
    I hope youll find something that works for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    The difference in the way that thread was handled vs this one is...I was not a mod then. Loveshooks who I respect immensely made the decision to lock it instead of deleting it in its entirety. I also believe that her reasoning behind it was because of all the valuable advice given in that thread. Maybe she left it so that anyone else who comes along can get some idea about local resources etc? The reason I deleted the two post in this thread is because its Panhandling and now I am a mod. I may do things differently. Also I have no idea who she is. Ive never seen her post on SW or give any sort of support to others. And because of that she very well may have been working a hustle for all I know? I can't be sure. But its a good thing that rule no. 8 on SW is no panhandling. This way we the mods dont have to read too much into the issue. I don't have to wreck my brain regarding motive. It's just simply not allowed. Im really sorry that she's struggling and I trust you will do what you can to help your friend. Hopefully when she gets her head above water, she'll come back and make a proper post introducing herself with a clean slate.
    Thank you PhatGirl! Im glad that we could talk or msg about it lol,things like this can go south VERY quickly.She was able to get some help. Like I said it wasn't anything personal against you I was just confused about the whole thing. But its water under the bridge, and welcome to being a mod here!
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    I really like this forum. My biggest issue with camming is by far my dismennorhea

    I used to get incredibly emotional during my cycles-my teen years were filled with anti depressants and mood stabilizers, but, it did not work. Eventually I worked through the emotional cycling, but now, experience very severe physical symptoms. Seven to ten days a month I am not able to drive, walk up/down stairs easily, , let alone capable of camming. Add an extra 2-3 days for the non bleeding PMS and random jolts of cramping before it even starts, and there's over a weak and a half of potentially missed work days.

    I get so anxious about going on cam because I'm worried about leaking/ruining my clothes or getting tipped to flash or touch down there and ending up leaking. Then the cramps themselves-how can I disguise that I'm getting into child's pose and make it look sexy while I'm dying?

    I am, however, going to actively work on this through higher tip goals and taking a break every hour-hour and a half to freshen up, and pre rolling cigarette looking medicine so I can get through the cramps and stay on cam!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FayeValentine View Post
    My period started early, dropping my already short cycle down to 17 days. I thought PCOS was supposed to give you long cycles? I missed all those days of potential work because I haven't figured out a way to cam while bleeding.
    Practice the slight of hand trick. You can make it look like youre using toys, but you really arent inserting them. I use the dildos that look like real cocks and touch it against me and move it but never insert it. I kid you not no one ever figures it out. You can also try fetish shows, those are also so fun.

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    My biggest challenge with camming is probably anxiety/depression/annoyance etc and trying to keep a good attitude at all or most times and being patient with people when I'm on cam. I also have tendonitis in several places, some can be explained by past injuries, but other spots I just don't even understand why I have it there. Like front of knees? I never did anything to my knees lol. I am pretty sure what I have is tendonitis anyway, but maybe it is something else in my joints. Been to several doctors and nobody can figure out my pain or why I have it. Had regular physical exams for certain issues done/blood tests and appears I am prefectly fine. I know i'm really not that is why I quit my "real" manufacturing job. It was just fucking agonizingly painful.

    I guess this doesn't affect my camming, but it irritates me I can't like do pushups due to either bad joints/tendonitis or whatever. Polework what little I have tried sucked too from my wrist/elbow tendonitis. Been getting physical therapy several weeks now for the wrist/elbow issue. It seems to help, but it is a very slow process

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    I don't know where else to put this. I feel like I have royally fucked up and shot myself in the foot. I ground my ass down and worked hard a couple of weeks ago. I broke my $500/week goal and then some. And then the next week I did NOT take advantage of the time I had alone to work. I barely worked at all. I've been mostly focusing on PSO right now because the internet here is so crappy that I'm afraid to cam and have customers/potentials think that I'm putting out shit for my quality - and then never come back.

    Usually if a funk hits me ... it might take a day or few, but then it goes. This one's hanging around. I meant to positively crush it this work; work hard and damn near constantly like I did the two weeks ago - but basically nothing. I've made, like ... almost $200. But I have rent coming up, and other expenses I'm behind on. It's like ... I'm trying to move, because I know that will give me a better outlook and improve my mental health dramatically. I know it will increase my cam earnings big time because I'll get to choose internet speeds, etc.

    I'm just ... I don't know what my problem is. I'm sitting here a total mess, basically. I took my last Klonopin because I finally couldn't handle the way the anxiety clawed at my chest anymore. I know what the problem is, I know that WORKING will help fix the problem ... but I can't ... like I'm trying to do it, force it ... because I know I NEED to, and I CAN'T!

    I don't know what to do. I know all of the right things I SHOULD do ... but none of them get me 'fixed' and ready to make money again RIGHT NOW - which is another overwhelming issue in and of itself.

    I'm so glad I work for myself ... any other job would have fired me again. So there's that. That's a positive, a silver lining. But ... it doesn't fix it right now.

    *rubs her face in her hands*

    I don't know if I'm asking for advice or just ... comfort? Support? Camaraderie?

    I honestly don't know. I just figured ... y'all might understand more than most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avalon_rose View Post
    I don't know where else to put this. I feel like I have royally fucked up and shot myself in the foot. I ground my ass down and worked hard a couple of weeks ago. I broke my $500/week goal and then some. And then the next week I did NOT take advantage of the time I had alone to work. I barely worked at all. I've been mostly focusing on PSO right now because the internet here is so crappy that I'm afraid to cam and have customers/potentials think that I'm putting out shit for my quality - and then never come back.

    Usually if a funk hits me ... it might take a day or few, but then it goes. This one's hanging around. I meant to positively crush it this work; work hard and damn near constantly like I did the two weeks ago - but basically nothing. I've made, like ... almost $200. But I have rent coming up, and other expenses I'm behind on. It's like ... I'm trying to move, because I know that will give me a better outlook and improve my mental health dramatically. I know it will increase my cam earnings big time because I'll get to choose internet speeds, etc.

    I'm just ... I don't know what my problem is. I'm sitting here a total mess, basically. I took my last Klonopin because I finally couldn't handle the way the anxiety clawed at my chest anymore. I know what the problem is, I know that WORKING will help fix the problem ... but I can't ... like I'm trying to do it, force it ... because I know I NEED to, and I CAN'T!

    I don't know what to do. I know all of the right things I SHOULD do ... but none of them get me 'fixed' and ready to make money again RIGHT NOW - which is another overwhelming issue in and of itself.

    I'm so glad I work for myself ... any other job would have fired me again. So there's that. That's a positive, a silver lining. But ... it doesn't fix it right now.

    *rubs her face in her hands*

    I don't know if I'm asking for advice or just ... comfort? Support? Camaraderie?

    I honestly don't know. I just figured ... y'all might understand more than most.

    Thanks for reading/listening. Sorry for the Debbie Downer verbal vomit.
    Hi I can relate to what you mean kinda. What has always helped me is to sort of "separate" the real me from the "work me". Like I don't know how to explain it, but I just go into another persona or whatever for work whatever that job may be. Anyway it just sounds like you are in a totally vicious cycle as in you're anxious and feeling bad and then money goes south and anxiety/feeling bad picks up which affects camming. I am really new to camming but I have found my absolute worst day was when I was just in a fucking angry mood and shit. Maybe you just need to give yourself a small break and do something you enjoy? As counter-productive as it sounds. I also get the way you described if I haven't been sleeping much as silly as that sounds. I get into fkd moods like that too sometimes tho. I guess perhaps for me this is easier just because I sure am very money motivated and so for me it is like "who gives a shit i feel bad physically and mentally so long as I get my money. If I don't get my money this will just get worse and spiral out of control". I dunno that is my thought process personally. It did help me to work at some really fkd intense hard jobs in the past. Are you one of those people with anticipatory anxiety? Like you have anxiety getting started but once you're doing it you're all in?

    Sorry if that isn't much help, but I tried. Hope you get better!

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    Hi I can relate to what you mean kinda. What has always helped me is to sort of "separate" the real me from the "work me". Like I don't know how to explain it, but I just go into another persona or whatever for work whatever that job may be. Anyway it just sounds like you are in a totally vicious cycle as in you're anxious and feeling bad and then money goes south and anxiety/feeling bad picks up which affects camming. I am really new to camming but I have found my absolute worst day was when I was just in a fucking angry mood and shit. Maybe you just need to give yourself a small break and do something you enjoy? As counter-productive as it sounds. I also get the way you described if I haven't been sleeping much as silly as that sounds. I get into fkd moods like that too sometimes tho. I guess perhaps for me this is easier just because I sure am very money motivated and so for me it is like "who gives a shit i feel bad physically and mentally so long as I get my money. If I don't get my money this will just get worse and spiral out of control". I dunno that is my thought process personally. It did help me to work at some really fkd intense hard jobs in the past. Are you one of those people with anticipatory anxiety? Like you have anxiety getting started but once you're doing it you're all in?

    Sorry if that isn't much help, but I tried. Hope you get better!
    Thanks. For some reason I feel a bit better tonight. I'm hoping it sticks.

    I hadn't given much though to the idea of 'anticipatory anxiety'. So that's something I'm going to think on and see if I can identify any particular triggers and what I might can do to counteract it before it takes too much of a hold. Thank you for your response.
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    So happy that I found a dr. out here in the boonies that refilled my Testosterone Creme! Elated actually.
    After being without it for the last 10 months, I felt like I was dying a slow death. My testosterone levels were down to near zero. The compound pharmacy = love.
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    oh wow that's some great new right there!.. no idea that low testosterone could do so much.. never had mine tested.

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    So happy that I found a dr. out here in the boonies that refilled my Testosterone Creme! Elated actually.
    After being without it for the last 10 months, I felt like I was dying a slow death. My testosterone levels were down to near zero. The compound pharmacy = love.
    Bye bye achy muscles, and bones.
    Bye bye tiredness.
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    Bye bye brain fog.
    FINALLY I can go back to camming endless hours, without needing a break.
    Not needing much sleep.
    No more hot flashes.
    Having the sex drive of a 16 year old boy.
    Hallelujah!

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    I thought I would tell you girls about my new find! collagen.. trying out the neocell collagen.. now let's see how young I can look for 43.. will report back!.. today is my 1st day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous camgirl View Post
    I thought I would tell you girls about my new find! collagen.. trying out the neocell collagen.. now let's see how young I can look for 43.. will report back!.. today is my 1st day!
    Synchronicity. I was just reading about a collagen supplement and creme in a woman's magazine yesterday.
    Looking forward to trying it.

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    Yea this is the powdered stuff that you drink.. I forgot to mention that for anyone who is thinking you put it on your face haha.. it has no taste so tastes fine in water .. i like it!

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    Synchronicity. I was just reading about a collagen supplement and creme in a woman's magazine yesterday.
    Looking forward to trying it.

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    I went to the 'health' store to purchase Progesterone creme.
    This is the brand I used, like over 15 years ago. At the time it was only sold through mail order.
    I look at the back label, and find this gem written,
    "Warning:This product contains Progesterone. A chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer.'

    Wait a minute. Huh?
    So, if I buy this in another state, I'm fine?
    When I asked the sales girl why it's even on the shelf, she agreed that it shouldn't be.
    So much for my faith in THAT health food store.

    Edit to add: I'm returning this progesterone to the store. Its making me sleepy as hell!
    Ugh! Too bad that's one of the side effects.
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    Have you done any research on Progesterone Cream? so do ALL progesterone creams cause cancer? I am not familiar with messing with hormones much.

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    cbc316b7290a392d2c4499c8d1cfe13f.jpg
    I went to the 'health' store to purchase Progesterone creme.
    This is the brand I used, like over 15 years ago. At the time it was only sold through mail order.
    I look at the back label, and find this gem written,
    "Warning:This product contains Progesterone. A chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer.'

    Wait a minute. Huh?
    So, if I buy this in another state, I'm fine?
    When I asked the sales girl why it's even on the shelf, she agreed that it shouldn't be.
    So much for my faith in THAT health food store.

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    Have you done any research on Progesterone Cream? so do ALL progesterone creams cause cancer? I am not familiar with messing with hormones much.
    Idk. They had an organic brand, which of course was double the price.
    I'm into hormone replacement.
    There was a scare about premarin a while back, that IT, too causes cancer.
    But, both my mom, and all my aunt's took it for over 40 years, and never got cancer.
    Plus, everyone lived to be 100.
    So, yeah, I'm into it.

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