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    In "Secret diary of a Call Girl" Belle often met her clients first at the hotel bar to receive her envelope, make small talk while he finished his drink, and then went up to his room.

    Is this usually at the client's request or do some of you girls require this to secure your money and break the ice a little?

    I was thinking of doing this as I am putting up my first Eros ad up in the next few days.

    Maybe it will help ease my nerves to meet the guy first at the bar (no, I won't drink)

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    I prefer to meet clients in the hotel lobby or at the hotel bar, as I don't always know how to navigate through hotels (if you've ever been to huge hotels such as the Gaylord ones, you know they can be absolutely labyrinthine). But, I don't take the money there, being much more interested in small talk. I'm also not going to argue if the client would prefer that I just show up at his room. Keep in mind that if you do it this way, guys will typically balk at paying for the time you were in the bar with them.

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    Thanks! I think for my first couple appointments I will request to meet at the bar or lobby

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    I strongly dislike meeting in public first - also, it's easier to just meet at the room so you don't have to coordinate. I like to drive myself about ten minutes early, primp in the car, then bee-line it for the elevator, make my way to his room, make sure my hair is perfect, lips are fresh, maybe open my jacket or unbutton more buttons, etc. then knock at precisely "Go Time"

    Most clients will not be near enough in age or similar in dress to look like they are meant to be with you, and frankly clients are rarely relaxed in the company of an escort unless they're sloshed but then they're sloshed. Even at hotels with keycard access only I try to be more discreet by meeting them in another hallway or somewhere else more deserted than the bar, which usually has prying eyes.
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    ^^^yes, totally that! I also have a very obvious, memorable appearance, and I *never* meet anyone in the hotel bar. Some guys think it's really cool to do that. Maybe for them it is, but not for me. People aren't stupid and if they see what you look like (as well as the disparity in age, etc.) then it will be totally obvious. Now some may want to flaunt their appearance, but in my book it isn't about socializing, it's about being smart, safe and staying under the radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    In "Secret diary of a Call Girl" Belle often met her clients first at the hotel bar to receive her envelope, make small talk while he finished his drink, and then went up to his room.

    Is this usually at the client's request or do some of you girls require this to secure your money and break the ice a little?

    I was thinking of doing this as I am putting up my first Eros ad up in the next few days.

    Maybe it will help ease my nerves to meet the guy first at the bar (no, I won't drink)
    (I am assuming you are in the U.S.)
    Secret Diary of a Call Girl is set in the U.K. The laws are different in the U.K. and paying for sex is not specifically illegal. Also, it's a T.V show. While a few aspects might be "realistic", it is mostly written to entertain, and is not a mirror of real life at all.

    If you meet a man at a hotel bar and he doesn't appear to be someone you know VERY well and can UNDOUBTEDLY pass as your real boyfriend - it is painfully obvious to everyone (ESPECIALLY hotel employees) that it is a paid arrangement. The bartender and everyone within line of sight will know. If he hands you anything (money/envelope/gift bag) you might as well put a flashing sign over your head that says HOOKER. Meeting at the hotel bar is indiscreet as hell and should be avoided if possible.

    Don't be naive and don't assume other people are idiots, especially hotel employees who ALL receive training on how to spot hookers. Some ladies think observers will just think it's a business meeting, but legitimate business is generally not conducted in that manner. In the real world single, hot young women do not meet older men privately in hotel rooms for above-board business.

    There are VERY real dangers and legal risks in this business that should not be underestimated. Watching an entertaining hooker TV show and meeting a guy at a bar is not enough to keep you safe. You need to learn how to screen your clients for safety and how to keep yourself out of jail.

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    Yes, I am in the USA. I referenced the show because that is where I got the meeting at a hotel bar/lobby idea from but I appreciate the observation.

    Most of the responses challenge the idea because you guys feel like your "look," in contrast with an older man standing next to you will give you away as a hooker but hotel employees could just assume you're his mistress or side chick. No? Especially if the meeting is occurring during the day?

    Call me crazy but it seems like meeting at a hotel bar makes it less suspicious for both parties because it gives the illusion of a "first date." Young girl meets older man at bar that she may have very well meant on Tinder or OkCupid for a quick drink, laugh or two and then they simply decided to go back to his room.

    If I was a bartender that wouldn't scream "hooker" to me as much as two people just trying to get laid. Plus, I pass for my mid 20s so I think my youthful appearance gives off more of a "sugar baby" look than "hooker". My boyfriend is older and everyone just assumes he's my sugar daddy so I just roll with it.

    But I'm just putting it out there. You guys are much more advanced in this. But that "look" everyone is referencing-- I don't have it. Someone told me once, potential clients may be turned off by me because I do appear younger which they may perceive as being "inexperienced?"

    Thoughts?


    Quote Originally Posted by Obenta View Post
    (I am assuming you are in the U.S.)
    Secret Diary of a Call Girl is set in the U.K. The laws are different in the U.K. and paying for sex is not specifically illegal. Also, it's a T.V show. While a few aspects might be "realistic", it is mostly written to entertain, and is not a mirror of real life at all.

    If you meet a man at a hotel bar and he doesn't appear to be someone you know VERY well and can UNDOUBTEDLY pass as your real boyfriend - it is painfully obvious to everyone (ESPECIALLY hotel employees) that it is a paid arrangement. The bartender and everyone within line of sight will know. If he hands you anything (money/envelope/gift bag) you might as well put a flashing sign over your head that says HOOKER. Meeting at the hotel bar is indiscreet as hell and should be avoided if possible.

    Don't be naive and don't assume other people are idiots, especially hotel employees who ALL receive training on how to spot hookers. Some ladies think observers will just think it's a business meeting, but legitimate business is generally not conducted in that manner. In the real world single, hot young women do not meet older men privately in hotel rooms for above-board business.

    There are VERY real dangers and legal risks in this business that should not be underestimated. Watching an entertaining hooker TV show and meeting a guy at a bar is not enough to keep you safe. You need to learn how to screen your clients for safety and how to keep yourself out of jail.

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    Default Re: Meeting an Escot Client at the hotel bar first?

    Yeaaaaaah, I actually work in a hotel. I LOVE playing "spot the hooker". I'm sure I label a few non pros as pros too. If I'm unsure? I go with pro, lol. Sometimes i go "hmmmm trophy wife? Meh, hookah!"
    My point is that whether you think you have an escort "look" or not, someone watching has a 50/50 chance of guessing correctly what you are. The more time they have to observe you the more they can narrow down their guess.
    Honestly in my hotel I just don't care. Sisterly solidarity and all that, unless they make trouble. Then they're getting a slap.
    Oh and it not being illegal here so even if I DID care they were escorts it's not like they're breaking the law. Maybe you should just move to Canada? Then no one will care who you're meeting or where

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    lol! I am heading to Toronto this summer and plan to work a little while I am there. Do you need a permit? Anyway, I see what you're saying about how easy it is for employees to notice hookers. Thanks!

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    Nope, no permits needed. Well ok to work legally in a different country technically you normally need some sort of visa but if you ignore that and meant henerelly speaking, well, I mean livin here they could all get business licenses to be LEGALLY operating a BUSINESS, since you know, they are charging for a service and running businesses, but most don't. So they could be slapped with a no license fee if they were running an in-call and a licensing inspector stopped by or something. (Pretty much never gonna happen to a single Indy girl), more likely for an unlicensed body rub. But with the new law changes in progress right now each province is handling prostitution as they see fit. Only one province, Alberta I think (god they suck there) are still workin under the old laws until the new ones are official. But everywhere else the justice system is like, "do your thing gurl, call us if you need us and be sure to file your taxes!"
    Especially in BC, the ONLY thing cops are interested in busting here is anyone dealing in underaged or trafficked. Then they will CUT YOU. And rightfully so.
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    Default Re: Meeting an Escot Client at the hotel bar first?

    I love this show, i get great ideas from it. But not the bar one.

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    I am now scheduling for when I want to go to Canada. I have family in Toronoto and Quebec that I am supposed to visit while I am there so have to secure work in those areas. Between the two, which do you recommend for an exotic American call girl? I also don't speak french very well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    Yes, I am in the USA. I referenced the show because that is where I got the meeting at a hotel bar/lobby idea from but I appreciate the observation.

    Most of the responses challenge the idea because you guys feel like your "look," in contrast with an older man standing next to you will give you away as a hooker but hotel employees could just assume you're his mistress or side chick. No? Especially if the meeting is occurring during the day?

    Call me crazy but it seems like meeting at a hotel bar makes it less suspicious for both parties because it gives the illusion of a "first date." Young girl meets older man at bar that she may have very well meant on Tinder or OkCupid for a quick drink, laugh or two and then they simply decided to go back to his room.

    If I was a bartender that wouldn't scream "hooker" to me as much as two people just trying to get laid. Plus, I pass for my mid 20s so I think my youthful appearance gives off more of a "sugar baby" look than "hooker". My boyfriend is older and everyone just assumes he's my sugar daddy so I just roll with it.

    But I'm just putting it out there. You guys are much more advanced in this. But that "look" everyone is referencing-- I don't have it. Someone told me once, potential clients may be turned off by me because I do appear younger which they may perceive as being "inexperienced?"

    Thoughts?
    1. If she were a mistress or side chick, it would be obvious that they are a "couple" and not making a new acquaintance. It is VERY easy to spot mismatched pairs.
    2. Most mid-range escorts work during the day. It's easier for guys to get away for playtime and most ladies don't want to deal with drunks late at night.
    3. You and your client stand out a lot more when the bar is quiet (during the day).
    4. Normal people don't meet at hotels for first dates.
    5. No one will think it's just two people trying to get laid unless your client can pass as your boyfriend. If he doesn't look like your real boyfriend, people will assume money is involved.
    6. I tended bar for many, many years and I could always spot hookers & "arrangements" in all types of establishments. Other patrons can spot them too. Escorts are long known to frequent upscale hotel bars with and without their clients.
    7. "Sugar babies" are usually hookers with a different arrangement, and that's how the general public views all of them anyway.

    You may come up with clever ideas and think that you can trick everyone, but ladies aren't fooling anyone by meeting clients in hotel bars. They never have.

    I don't know what "look" you're talking about. Many escorts look more conservative than a typical "sugar baby" does when in public. If you look young, it can look even more like a paid arrangement.

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    I'm in the service industry too so I get what you are saying about staff and patrons being able to spot mismatched pairs and such.

    So one more question: Is it true sugar babies and hookers hang out at hotel bars (ordering drinks of course, tickering on their cell, etc) in hopes of meeting potential clients/daddies? I had a friend who worked at an upscale hotel and said she saw this all the time but I wonder how effective this is?

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    Not at my hotel bar.

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    I've met clients at hotel bars and also even picked up potential clients at hotel bars. I find it more relaxing as typical strangers meeting at a bar. it really depends sometimes the client might request it or you might request it. As long as you confirm you are meeting the right person (describe each other what you might be wearing). plus I work in Canada so the laws here are different and It think similar to the UK. where outcalls are legal on the books still and still waiting new laws from supreme court (December 2014 or earlier they need to decided).

    Finding a hotel elevator before your appointment can be a little tricking sometimes but if the hotel is busy and you can ask the door man or sometimes follow other guest to the elevator and ask them if its the appropriate elevator to the right tower if the hotel has more then one tower.
    the way I see it love comes in many different forms when I was dating an older man we got more looks then when I am seeing clients. Plus with the sugar daddy and seeking arrangements where are those young girls meeting those men obviously in public places and lets face it those guys are looking for sex just like they are with escorts.

    Escorting is paid dating. Meeting at the bar actually makes things less tense and eases the process for you and the client that way you can have a light conversation and then decide to take the date to the next level. If you dress business casual then you should be fine to walk through and sit at a bar and wait or meetup with your date.

    @Exxotica in Toronto you do not need a permit to work as an escort, you might need one if you plan on living in a different Canadian city like Windsor, Edmonton or Calgary. Touring other cities really depends on frequent you plan on visiting other cities.
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    I've met clients at hotel bars and also even picked up potential clients at hotel bars. I find it more relaxing as typical strangers meeting at a bar. it really depends sometimes the client might request it or you might request it. As long as you confirm you are meeting the right person (describe each other what you might be wearing). plus I work in Canada so the laws here are different and It think similar to the UK. where outcalls are legal on the books still and still waiting new laws from supreme court (December 2014 or earlier they need to decided).

    Finding a hotel elevator before your appointment can be a little tricking sometimes but if the hotel is busy and you can ask the door man or sometimes follow other guest to the elevator and ask them if its the appropriate elevator to the right tower if the hotel has more then one tower.
    the way I see it love comes in many different forms when I was dating an older man we got more looks then when I am seeing clients. Plus with the sugar daddy and seeking arrangements where are those young girls meeting those men obviously in public places and lets face it those guys are looking for sex just like they are with escorts.

    Escorting is paid dating. Meeting at the bar actually makes things less tense and eases the process for you and the client that way you can have a light conversation and then decide to take the date to the next level. If you dress business casual then you should be fine to walk through and sit at a bar and wait or meetup with your date.

    @Exxotica in Toronto you do not need a permit to work as an escort, you might need one if you plan on living in a different Canadian city like Windsor, Edmonton or Calgary. Touring other cities really depends on frequent you plan on visiting other cities.
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    Default Re: Meeting an Escot Client at the hotel bar first?

    Thank you! I definitely plan on meeting at the hotel bar first. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    Thank you! I definitely plan on meeting at the hotel bar first. Thanks!
    I guess you've never heard the stories ladies tell about hotel management showing up at their door (sometimes with police) to kick them off the property.

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    Hahahaha! The power to boot people out is one of the things I love most about my job. No lie.

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    I'm doing what I think is best for me. But thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    I'm doing what I think is best for me. But thanks.
    Oh please don't think I meant booting escorts. I mean booting people like the super loud drunken douche bags blaring music and screaming in the halls at 3am thinking that they can do whatever they want and get up in my face because I'm an "employee" and they are the "customer". It's soooo satisfying to be able to tell them that if they don't shut the hell up I'm kicking their asses out.

    Working girls doing their thing? I say go on girl, do your thing. Unless they make serious trouble. But that's the same as anyone else. Do your thing, unless you make serious problems for me and my guests. Then I get grumpy.

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    I would never do this. I want to stay out of hotel staffs' vision as much as possible. That means getting directions to the room and beelining to it as though I'm just going to my room and know exactly what's what. I agree with the "mis-match" thing, and even if they could think a million other things about your "arrangement," you know that they will not automatically be jumping to those other conclusions first.

    Also, keep in mind, if you're meeting all your clients in the hotel bar first, unless you travel around all the time, you'll be ending up at the same nice hotels pretty often, and they will start to recognize you. Especially if you're always the young girl meeting older guys in the bar during the day. It will be very obvious after some time.

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    Thanks guys for your thoughts. I'm still thinking about how I can make this work for me. Especially for my first couple clients so I wanted to ask the ladies about my other idea:

    Meeting the client, at a bar maybe across the street from the hotel if there happens to be one. Or if there is a little bar/lounge/bistro connected to the hotel that is in the same shopping center etc. I notice girls offer men the option of meeting first, if they wish, before their appointment to discuss what they want, etc. so what if I go ahead and do this "15-20 minute getting to know each other" my first go arounds? That way, I receive my envelope in total neutral grounds, away from any prying eyes and by the time I even step into the hotel, we're relaxed, whether we waltz in together or I come in by myself up to his room. Even better my envelope can even be tucked away in my car.

    Thoughts?

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